ESPN: NBA's best screen setters (including Amir Johnson)

Post #21 » by **Double Helix** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 9:55 pm

I would be very surprised if Nick Collison didn't make a top 20 list. If you watch OKC he's just about perfect at being at the right place at the right time despite having limited mobility. Chuck Hayes also gets by primarily on his knowledge of the game and can obviously set a devasting screen. Another extremely high bball IQ guy is obviously Joakim Noah.

I've sat a few rows up from courtside a couple times to watch the Bulls and I honestly think Noah might be one of the sneakiest, most frustrating guys for guys to to play against in the entire league. He also does all the little things that we love Amir for (and then some) to give the Bulls whatever advantage he can.

I hope we can teach some of this to Jonas eventually.

will · Post #22 » by **will** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 9:57 pm

Sn0wman wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quRwCAkaweM[/youtube]

Can't believe I missed that, great find!!! :lol:

cdel00 · Post #23 » by **cdel00** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 10:42 pm

Amir is awesome!

TdotRap4Lyfe · Post #24 » by **TdotRap4Lyfe** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 10:53 pm

Sn0wman wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quRwCAkaweM[/youtube]

Always gives me a good laugh :lol:

Kabookalu · Post #25 » by **Kabookalu** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 10:53 pm

Sn0wman wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quRwCAkaweM[/youtube]

The first play we used to run a play like that in my old travel team, we called it open sesame. It's a way to get the person running through the double screens, in this case DeMar, an open 3 at the top.

WhatsaTDot · Post #26 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 11:18 pm

will wrote:HAHAHA Jason Collins is on this list.

Because he's played like 2 minutes this season.

Two point five years worth of data. You may have missed that.

NirvanaFC · Post #27 » by **NirvanaFC** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 11:29 pm

Except Amir averages 1+ moving screen fouls per game now

Laure · Post #28 » by **Laure** » Wed Mar 5, 2014 11:40 pm

NirvanaFC wrote:Except Amir averages 1+ moving screen fouls per game now

To be fair, in that vid, there's a hell lot of moving screens been shown. Amir is on the KG levels of moving screens, though he gets called on them, while KG gets away with it.

Matty · Post #29 » by **Matty** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 12:31 am

Amir is all business; offensively and defensively.

SaveTheHens · Post #30 » by **SaveTheHens** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 1:17 am

That probably explains his high +/- numbers each year. The players that do the little things are just as important as the players who get the pts, boards, assists

will · Post #31 » by **will** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 1:22 am

Chucks Hayes ain't get enough burn to qualify?

JWiLL02 · Post #32 » by **JWiLL02** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 1:59 am

OvertimeNO wrote:
Patman wrote:Prime KG was the best screen-setter I've ever seen. Yeah, he did get away with fouls, but you gotta be crafty to do so.

Oakley. Man's mission on offence was to set hard screens. Like, everyone else was tallying their points in their heads, and Oak was counting how many guys he laid out on the court.

Oakley also used to jog slowly up court after inbounding with his hands up, letting the PG use him as a screen as they brought it up against pressure to get across half.

It was hilarious and classic Oak.

will · Post #33 » by **will** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 2:08 am

JWiLL02 wrote:
OvertimeNO wrote:
Patman wrote:Prime KG was the best screen-setter I've ever seen. Yeah, he did get away with fouls, but you gotta be crafty to do so.

Oakley. Man's mission on offence was to set hard screens. Like, everyone else was tallying their points in their heads, and Oak was counting how many guys he laid out on the court.

Oakley also used to jog slowly up court after inbounding with his hands up, letting the PG use him as a screen as they brought it up against pressure to get across half.

It was hilarious and classic Oak.

Dat Man Oak. Behind the back passes to no one from the top middle of the three point line :lol:

Kaigu · Post #34 » by **Kaigu** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 2:53 am

Amir "Screen" Johnson. Hopefully, JV can develop his screen like Amir's.

vini_vidi_vici · Post #35 » by **vini_vidi_vici** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:17 am

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Re: Collison.

lacokanostra · Post #36 » by **lacokanostra** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:21 am

Jason Collins is probably best known for setting screens as far as NBA play goes. Doc Rivers said he was second to KG for setting screens during his time with the Boston Celtics.

Anatomize · Post #37 » by **Anatomize** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:49 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkK-DhdpLuo[/youtube]

God Squad · Post #38 » by **God Squad** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 10:57 am

I've always liked Kosta Koufos and thought he was very underrated.

LLJ · Post #39 » by **LLJ** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 9:41 pm

Anatomize wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkK-DhdpLuo[/youtube]

Imenutz · Post #40 » by **Imenutz** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 9:52 pm

Say what you want about Collins being a screen specialist but his minutes over the last 2.5 years do not justify his being on this list and theres only one obvious reason for which he is on it. Without even searching we know there are better players.