Ryan Wolstat: If Valanciunas can

[whysoserious]

correlation vs causation.

Brooklyn series game 7 - his actual decision making affects the team by putting them on the wrong side of the floor
Pelicans - his decision to put vasquez on the floor and have him guard evans
Bobcats - his decision to not foul the bobcats when they were up 2 with 26 on the clock and 24 on the shotclock led to the team not even getting a tying possession

Those are all fire-able offences.

I did not say anywhere that every loss is his fault, but that he has a track record of losing games due to his idiotic decision making. If I had time to find the data of how his awful timeouts affects the team play I would.

He's actually run plenty of great out-of-timeout plays for us lately that have led to easy scores like the Demar and Ross cuts under the basket for layups.

Casey is not perfect but coaches make mistakes. At the end of the day, you just want to blame him for those 3-4 times, not give him any credit for what this team does positively and say all the wins are the players, all the losses are the coaches.

Casey is fine, he may not end up being the coach long-term and that's fine. There will be decisions but he's doing a fine job.

[Hue Durant]

correlation vs causation.

Brooklyn series game 7 - his actual decision making affects the team by putting them on the wrong side of the floor
Pelicans - his decision to put vasquez on the floor and have him guard evans
Bobcats - his decision to not foul the bobcats when they were up 2 with 26 on the clock and 24 on the shotclock led to the team not even getting a tying possession

Those are all fire-able offences.

I did not say anywhere that every loss is his fault, but that he has a track record of losing games due to his idiotic decision making. If I had time to find the data of how his awful timeouts affects the team play I would.

He's actually run plenty of great out-of-timeout plays for us lately

He also stops playing basketball when the shotclock is turned off and gives lou the ball to iso-throw at the basket every time, even calling timeouts to sub him in for that purpose. Our "clutch plays" are give the ball to Lowry, let him dribble for 10 seconds then get him to drive his 5'11 self to the basket.

We will never see a play like this with Casey as a coach.

[YouTube]http://youtu.be/HINUBWyk3lw?t=1m12s[/YouTube]

[Spragga]

Well Casey did play him in the fourth down the stretch against the 76ers with the bad calf. Maybe he's only good enough for bottom 5 teams.

[EG73]

As long as the team is winning, i prefer that his minutes are limited, in order to try to try to reduce the risk of injury before playoffs. Same for Amir. (free Bruno, lol)

[Morse Code]

It might be more discussion-worthy had we lost. It's funny that the players don't seem to have any ego about who plays when and who gets touches on this team, but the media and fans all seem to think these are crucial issues.

"But we won" is the most tired, pathetic excuse of an argument to defend every stupid decision/play this team makes.

Nope.

But then when we lose and we discuss these issues people just act like posters are worried about the world ending. No, we've seen these issues in wins, and in losses. The team and the coach both have some issues they need to fix. I think the players have a better shot at fixing their individual issues, than Casey does.

[Morse Code]

As long as the team is winning, i prefer that his minutes are limited, in order to try to try to reduce the risk of injury before playoffs. Same for Amir. (free Bruno, lol)

I would HATE to play for a coach like that. JV is 22 years old! 22! I understand in some circumstances why he gets benched but it's clear Casey doesn't trust him, even when he's playing his best basketball on both ends. In general, Casey's development plan for JV is ok, but he needs to run better plays (duck-ins, cuts off ball during his post-ups, etc), and also give the dude some minutes when he's dominating. Far too many times has JV been benched when he was winning his matchup on both ends.

[barrist]

People just want to ride through the whole season on a high, that's why they don't want to hear people complain about the coach, players, etc. It's childish, but understandable.

[whysoserious]

People just want to ride through the whole season on a high, that's why they don't want to hear people complain about the coach, players, etc. It's childish, but understandable.

I honestly have no issue discussing Casey's flaws or the teams really, it's the attitude that the sky is falling and fire him or the lack of acknowledgement for anything good he's done that just simply doesn't balance out the conversation.

Casey sucks, fire him, fifteen threads on it every single day littering the entire front page.

[whysoserious]

He also stops playing basketball when the shotclock is turned off and gives lou the ball to iso-throw at the basket every time, even calling timeouts to sub him in for that purpose. Our "clutch plays" are give the ball to Lowry, let him dribble for 10 seconds then get him to drive his 5'11 self to the basket.

We will never see a play like this with Casey as a coach.

[YouTube]http://youtu.be/HINUBWyk3lw?t=1m12s[/YouTube]

I'm tired of the Lou play as well but it's also been highly effective for us and Lou makes a fair number of those or draws fouls so it's something that's worked for us.

Most supposed clutch plays involve iso'ing one player and letting them create. Lowry is pretty good at it so again you're only looking at everything from a negative light, giving Casey no credit, all the losses are his fault and all the wins are the players.

[Hue Durant]

He also stops playing basketball when the shotclock is turned off and gives lou the ball to iso-throw at the basket every time, even calling timeouts to sub him in for that purpose. Our "clutch plays" are give the ball to Lowry, let him dribble for 10 seconds then get him to drive his 5'11 self to the basket.

We will never see a play like this with Casey as a coach.

[YouTube]http://youtu.be/HINUBWyk3lw?t=1m12s[/YouTube]

I'm tired of the Lou play as well but it's also been highly effective for us
it's also been highly effective for us
highly effective

[whysoserious]

I guess reality doesn't exist in your world but hey, keep going. The hate is strong with you clearly.

[Hue Durant]

I guess reality doesn't exist in your world but hey, keep going. The hate is strong with you clearly.

y-you're just a h-hater
out of touch with r-reality




had a fun chat with you today strawman

[ForeverTFC]

He also didn't trust Lowry and had his hand forced to play him. Just because you question certain aspects of the coaching, it doesn't mean you want the coach fired or don't like everything he is doing. You can give a guy credit and talk about areas for growth.

[mintsa]

I dont hate Casey, I dont bash him, but I'm shocked Big Val didnt play at all in the 4th. I thought if there was a game to play him in the fourth/late in the fourth it was sunday vs the Pistons.

[djsunyc]

As long as the team is winning, i prefer that his minutes are limited, in order to try to try to reduce the risk of injury before playoffs. Same for Amir. (free Bruno, lol)

I would HATE to play for a coach like that. JV is 22 years old! 22! I understand in some circumstances why he gets benched but it's clear Casey doesn't trust him, even when he's playing his best basketball on both ends. In general, Casey's development plan for JV is ok, but he needs to run better plays (duck-ins, cuts off ball during his post-ups, etc), and also give the dude some minutes when he's dominating. Far too many times has JV been benched when he was winning his matchup on both ends.

casey's development style kind of leaves jonas out there on an island. on offense he's expected to get it in the post while every other player clears out the entire side of the court for him. that basically means jonas has no real option other than to make a 1 on 1 move. and casey's defensive style funnels all perimeter players to the middle where he is.

[whysoserious]

I guess reality doesn't exist in your world but hey, keep going. The hate is strong with you clearly.

y-you're just a h-hater
out of touch with r-reality




had a fun chat with you today strawman

Keep ignoring reality and calling people straw men!

[dTox]

He also didn't trust Lowry and had his hand forced to play him. Just because you question certain aspects of the coaching, it doesn't mean you want the coach fired or don't like everything he is doing. You can give a guy credit and talk about areas for growth.

This, people forget how badly he wanted to play Jose who was clearly an inferior player over Lowry and eventually started him. Casey isn't perfect but there's a fine line between wanting him fired and wanting him to make adjustments for the betterment of the team, not saying this is directly related to Jonas but I'm sick of reading arguments between groups of people who represent two extremes.

[Hue Durant]

I guess reality doesn't exist in your world but hey, keep going. The hate is strong with you clearly.

y-you're just a h-hater
out of touch with r-reality




had a fun chat with you today strawman

Keep ignoring reality and calling people straw men!

ok adhominem man

[whysoserious]

He also didn't trust Lowry and had his hand forced to play him. Just because you question certain aspects of the coaching, it doesn't mean you want the coach fired or don't like everything he is doing. You can give a guy credit and talk about areas for growth.

I would agree with this and if the threads actually followed this, it would be a great discussion. Unfortunately there's a few that are clearly biased and just jump in on every Casey thread screaming he sucks and fire him. Too much noise around valid discussion.

[Raps in 4]

It might be more discussion-worthy had we lost. It's funny that the players don't seem to have any ego about who plays when and who gets touches on this team, but the media and fans all seem to think these are crucial issues.

We almost did lose. Detroit would not have mounted a comeback had we not pulled JV out of the game.