Terrence Ross hopes to sign a contract extension with Raptors before deadline

[-TheDocOfDenial]

Coulda been a 20 million dollar player in the new CBA now though I would hesitate to sign him for 8 mil a year. Dude made his own bed. Look at DMC, dude worked his ass off to become what he is today and got rewarded for it. Ross already had all the physical tools he was just too busy banging Instagram girls and playing 2k.

why would you want ross to make 20 mill a year? people act like hard work is the only thing that ever holds any player back from being a max player... theres a reason why the league is filled with role players and why only a select few people get max contracts... ross has a lot of physical tools, but his talent level has never been elite... doesnt have handles, doesnt have great court vision or basketball iq... his strengths as a player are his speed, vertical, quickness, and shooting ability... and weve seen time and time and time again that none of those things necessarily means a player is gonna be a star. but it doesnt mean he doesnt have value in the league or a role on the team either... if you can sign ross to a relatively cheap extension, you do it hands down... you cant just load a team with a bunch of 10-15 million dollar players... thats not possible... but for what ross brings to the table, hes definitely a valuable asset to have on a team... jr smith is making 5 mill a year... and hes a notorious headcase... but he brings some of the same skills to the table as ross... jj redick makes about 7 mill a year... if you can get ross locked up for around 8 mill, especially with the rising cap, idk why people think thats a horrible idea... who else do you wanna sign as a backup guard for that price that brings the same skillset as he does?

If Tross wasn't a huge **** up as a basketball player, he could be an elite player like Middelton on the bucks who just got a monster contract worth 14 million per year. T ross is even more athletic, it is not a stretch to think that a 3 + D player who drops 20 ppg like ross did last night is worth 20 million in the new NBA. He ruined his chance at that contract. For 8 million a year I would give him an extension but I will still think twice about it. I truly think T ross wasted his potential.

[Boogie!]

Coulda been a 20 million dollar player in the new CBA now though I would hesitate to sign him for 8 mil a year. Dude made his own bed. Look at DMC, dude worked his ass off to become what he is today and got rewarded for it. Ross already had all the physical tools he was just too busy banging Instagram girls and playing 2k.

why would you want ross to make 20 mill a year? people act like hard work is the only thing that ever holds any player back from being a max player... theres a reason why the league is filled with role players and why only a select few people get max contracts... ross has a lot of physical tools, but his talent level has never been elite... doesnt have handles, doesnt have great court vision or basketball iq... his strengths as a player are his speed, vertical, quickness, and shooting ability... and weve seen time and time and time again that none of those things necessarily means a player is gonna be a star. but it doesnt mean he doesnt have value in the league or a role on the team either... if you can sign ross to a relatively cheap extension, you do it hands down... you cant just load a team with a bunch of 10-15 million dollar players... thats not possible... but for what ross brings to the table, hes definitely a valuable asset to have on a team... jr smith is making 5 mill a year... and hes a notorious headcase... but he brings some of the same skills to the table as ross... jj redick makes about 7 mill a year... if you can get ross locked up for around 8 mill, especially with the rising cap, idk why people think thats a horrible idea... who else do you wanna sign as a backup guard for that price that brings the same skillset as he does?

If Tross wasn't a huge **** up as a basketball player, he could be an elite player like Middelton on the bucks who just got a monster contract worth 14 million per year. T ross is even more athletic, it is not a stretch to think that a 3 + D player who drops 20 ppg like ross did last night is worth 20 million in the new NBA. He ruined his chance at that contract. For 8 million a year I would give him an extension but I will still think twice about it. I truly think T ross wasted his potential.

if you think ross wasted his potential, then youd also have to argue that at least half of the players in the league wasted their potential... and that half of the league also **** up as basketball players... a roster consists of 15 players... and around 9 that get minutes consistently... each team maybe has 1 or 2 guys that are max players... IF THAT... and the other players around them get the scraps... you cant build a team with a 5 guys that get max contracts... you need other players to SUPPORT them... hence ROLE PLAYERS... and ROLE PLAYERS dont need to be paid big bucks, nor should they be... ross is a ROLE PLAYER...

does he have potential... sure... so does nearly every **** player in the league... most of the time players are drafted because of potential... that doesnt mean theyre ever gonna be anything special or that the fact that they never amounted to their potential means they somehow "**** up" as a player... it doesnt mean there is no role for them either... ross' supposed "potential" was an unrealistic expectation set by the raptors fanbase... he was a 4 year college player whos main strengths coming out of college are exactly what they are now... whos weaknesses coming out of college are exactly what they are now... we knew what we were getting when we drafted him... especially as a 4 year player... whether or not he was worth the 8th pick is a different story... but that has nothing to do with what ross couldve or shouldve become... wed like him to be better sure... but what he provides is still valuable to a team... everyone thinks that having athleticism automatically means youre the next vince carter or something...

[-TheDocOfDenial]

why would you want ross to make 20 mill a year? people act like hard work is the only thing that ever holds any player back from being a max player... theres a reason why the league is filled with role players and why only a select few people get max contracts... ross has a lot of physical tools, but his talent level has never been elite... doesnt have handles, doesnt have great court vision or basketball iq... his strengths as a player are his speed, vertical, quickness, and shooting ability... and weve seen time and time and time again that none of those things necessarily means a player is gonna be a star. but it doesnt mean he doesnt have value in the league or a role on the team either... if you can sign ross to a relatively cheap extension, you do it hands down... you cant just load a team with a bunch of 10-15 million dollar players... thats not possible... but for what ross brings to the table, hes definitely a valuable asset to have on a team... jr smith is making 5 mill a year... and hes a notorious headcase... but he brings some of the same skills to the table as ross... jj redick makes about 7 mill a year... if you can get ross locked up for around 8 mill, especially with the rising cap, idk why people think thats a horrible idea... who else do you wanna sign as a backup guard for that price that brings the same skillset as he does?

If Tross wasn't a huge **** up as a basketball player, he could be an elite player like Middelton on the bucks who just got a monster contract worth 14 million per year. T ross is even more athletic, it is not a stretch to think that a 3 + D player who drops 20 ppg like ross did last night is worth 20 million in the new NBA. He ruined his chance at that contract. For 8 million a year I would give him an extension but I will still think twice about it. I truly think T ross wasted his potential.

if you think ross wasted his potential, then youd also have to argue that at least half of the players in the league wasted their potential... and that half of the league also **** up as basketball players... a roster consists of 15 players... and around 9 that get minutes consistently... each team maybe has 1 or 2 guys that are max players... IF THAT... and the other players around them get the scraps... you cant build a team with a 5 guys that get max contracts... you need other players to SUPPORT them... hence ROLE PLAYERS... and ROLE PLAYERS dont need to be paid big bucks, nor should they be... ross is a ROLE PLAYER...

does he have potential... sure... so does nearly every **** player in the league... most of the time players are drafted because of potential... that doesnt mean theyre ever gonna be anything special or that the fact that they never amounted to their potential means they somehow "**** up" as a player... it doesnt mean there is no role for them either... ross' supposed "potential" was an unrealistic expectation set by the raptors fanbase... he was a 4 year college player whos main strengths coming out of college are exactly what they are now... whos weaknesses coming out of college are exactly what they are now... we knew what we were getting when we drafted him... especially as a 4 year player... whether or not he was worth the 8th pick is a different story... but that has nothing to do with what ross couldve or shouldve become... wed like him to be better sure... but what he provides is still valuable to a team... everyone thinks that having athleticism automatically means youre the next vince carter or something...

Man I totally agree with what you are saying. There are also a lot of NBA guys who could have been great but either washed out of the league and settled to be role players. From what I saw from Ross in college and seeing his physical gifts and the skillet he came into the NBA with, I think he wasted his potential. You can argue that expecting him to be the next kobe would have been unrealistic (not that I've seen anyone say it) but more in the mold of Ariza/Middelton or hell even DMC on our team, yeah why not. Length, athleticism and his 3 point shot are there. I would still like to keep him coming off the bench but nothing more than 8 million a year at the way he is playing.

[kidr1211]

Cojo type contract or gtfo

[dballislife]

ross is tricky because during any given game, game 1 ross or game 2 ross can show up, and as of now game 1 ross shows up a lot more than game 2 ross...i would wait and see and let ross prove this season how much hes worth

[Duffman100]

3 years, 21 million

[scopy]

1 year deals only. That way every year is a contract year.

[Inevitable]

4/40 calling it now

[UneducatedFan86]

Ross is a perfect example of a player you let the market dictate what he gets. If he gets overpaid, then you cut your losses and don't worry about it too much. He's not a player anyone would trade too much for or that anyone would be excited about being included in a package deal. Let him prove that he can be consistent this season and show what he has off the bench.

[Boogie!]

Ross is a perfect example of a player you let the market dictate what he gets. If he gets overpaid, then you cut your losses and don't worry about it too much. He's not a player anyone would trade too much for or that anyone would be excited about being included in a package deal. Let him prove that he can be consistent this season and show what he has off the bench.

i think either way hes gonna get paid a decent amount... like i said, guys like jr smith and jj redick are making 6 mill a year on average... with the cap increase i think at most 8 mill a year for ross is fair... if he plays himself into a bigger contract we are now screwed and you can say "cut your losses" but at the same time we now have to fill the void he left with another player to fill his role... the problem with that idea is that what players on the market can give you athleticism, 3 point shooting and defense for around that price? at best you find someone with one of the 3 for a slightly cheaper... is that really worth it? im not saying ross is irreplaceable by any means either... but i dont think you should wait and let the market dictate what he gets... if you can lock him into a 3 year deal at a reasonable price like i said 7-8 mill i think thats fair... thats a little more than what patterson got pre-cap boost and they provide essentially the same type of role player skillset... if hes still asking for more than that, then thats when you play it by ear and see what happens going into free agency.

[carl_english]

contract year Rawse

[Mascot]

3 years, 21 million

this or less

[Johnny Bball]

Why would we extend him for anything. He's not going to command really any more money as an RFA or UFA and since he has shown almost no drive I would rather we use the cap space better on someone else.

[Kabookalu]

Why would we extend him for anything. He's not going to command really any more money as an RFA or UFA and since he has shown almost no drive I would rather we use the cap space better on someone else.

Shooters are more valuable than they've ever been. Terrence Ross is going to get paid a lot of money, 4/40 more or less is what I'm predicting, and if it's not us paying him it'll be someone else. Frankly I think we should do it because a guy with his abilities who can shoot all over the floor in a number of different situations rather than just in stationary positions (Novak, Kapono) are valuable as hell. Him and Cory Joseph have the potential to kill it off the bench for us later down in the future.

[mademan]

Why would we extend him for anything. He's not going to command really any more money as an RFA or UFA and since he has shown almost no drive I would rather we use the cap space better on someone else.

Shooters are more valuable than they've ever been. Terrence Ross is going to get paid a lot of money, 4/40 more or less is what I'm predicting, and if it's not us paying him it'll be someone else. Frankly I think we should do it because a guy with his abilities who can shoot all over the floor in a number of different situations rather than just in stationary positions (Novak, Kapono) are valuable as hell. Him and Cory Joseph have the potential to kill it off the bench for us later down in the future.

Ya. Shooters are valuable. Young shooters even more so. Young shooters with potential on defense? Ross is at least getting an Iman Shumpert contract (4/40). Apparently Shump was offered more than that by another team, so that should tell you how much Ross will likely get paid if he hits the open market in a year where every team will have 30+ mill in cap space

[orbesnet]

I think you let him hang. Give him the season to show he give's a f*ck.

If he takes off you pay him a bit more than you would now but keep it measured.

I think he still has the tools and could easily take a big step this year but as everyone has pointed out, where's the heart?

[dagger]

If Ross gets an extension, there will be a mutual self-interest to keep it short - either three years or four with an option for a fourth. I'd say 3/28 to 3/30. That will keep him trade-able under the new cap economics - basically, an MLE type contract under the new economics. Sorry to say, but that's what a mid-level deal will look like.

[Southward1]

Meh, let him in earn his next contract. If you throw out 3/21 and he stays the same (most likely) you're committing a lot of money for an 8th or 9th man. If he does improve he'll still be backing up the SG/SF position unless something dramatic happens. And if you let him earn it this year and he plays well and leaves via free agency because he's out of your price range, you're letting a guy go who was going to be backup go anyway. Why commit to him? At the end of the season he'll be a 25 year old 4th year player who should come off the bench. Go get a vet to do that.

[Northface82]

3 year, $20 million is what I throw at Ross.

[TONYROMOHOF]

If hes restricted, let it ride and see how it goes

We have powell and delon needing minutes