Thank Nation! Pre-Lottery: Denver 9th, NY pick 7th (PART 4)

[nabbs]

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Interesting. I believe this could hurt or help him. While this draft class weak, Grayson had trouble against athletic defenders. I think honing his PG skills another year college will really help him become a more complete player. I truly believe he will stay all 4 years at Duke. On the other hand, next year's draft class is STACKED. I think if he can become a legitimate PG, he could be a backup in the NBA or have an incredible career in Europe.

[wegetitin08]

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[LJKO]

Detroit @ Orlando tonight.
Charlotte @ New York.

Let's get it!

Who do we want to win exactly???

Orlando to win and Knicks to lose; at this stage no point of rooting for NO they already at a lost cause for use unless there's some miracle they win all of the of their games and Denver lose all of theirs. There still a chance for this pick to be 8-9

[MEDIC]

Murray, Luwawu or Jackson & I am happy.

[RapsRainCity]

Murray, Luwawu or Jackson & I am happy.

jaylen brown. he's a 6"7 multi-tool defender who could get a jumpshot in our system (like powell)

[BoyzNTheHood]

Murray, Luwawu or Jackson & I am happy.

jaylen brown. he's a 6"7 multi-tool defender who could get a jumpshot in our system (like powell)

He's not guaranteed to fall, although he's the main suspect to fall. If he's there you take him and run, but I wouldn't put all of my eggs in that basket.

[TheFutureMM]

Murray, Luwawu or Jackson & I am happy.

jaylen brown. he's a 6"7 multi-tool defender who could get a jumpshot in our system (like powell)

He's not guaranteed to fall, although he's the main suspect to fall. If he's there you take him and run, but I wouldn't put all of my eggs in that basket.

I don't think he's falling. He reminds me a ton of Stanley Johnson who went 8th in a way better draft. Jaylen's not falling past 6 - if he were too we would need to swoop up and get him asap.

[BoyzNTheHood]

jaylen brown. he's a 6"7 multi-tool defender who could get a jumpshot in our system (like powell)

He's not guaranteed to fall, although he's the main suspect to fall. If he's there you take him and run, but I wouldn't put all of my eggs in that basket.

I don't think he's falling. He reminds me a ton of Stanley Johnson who went 8th in a way better draft. Jaylen's not falling past 6 - if he were too we would need to swoop up and get him asap.

Right now I have him going 7 to the Kings so I doubt he drops. But that's still lower than where he was projected at the start of the year, which was 3rd overall.

[metafisical]

I'm not confident at all about Orlando beating Detroit tonight. Detroit won the first two contests this season by fairly wide margins (by 26 in the first game, and 16 in the second). Fortunatley, Vucevic will be playing.

[CunningLinguist]

He's not guaranteed to fall, although he's the main suspect to fall. If he's there you take him and run, but I wouldn't put all of my eggs in that basket.

I don't think he's falling. He reminds me a ton of Stanley Johnson who went 8th in a way better draft. Jaylen's not falling past 6 - if he were too we would need to swoop up and get him asap.

Right now I have him going 7 to the Kings so I doubt he drops. But that's still lower than where he was projected at the start of the year, which was 3rd overall.

I could see the Kings taking Chriss as he's a hometown kid.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I don't think he's falling. He reminds me a ton of Stanley Johnson who went 8th in a way better draft. Jaylen's not falling past 6 - if he were too we would need to swoop up and get him asap.

Right now I have him going 7 to the Kings so I doubt he drops. But that's still lower than where he was projected at the start of the year, which was 3rd overall.

I could see the Kings taking Chriss as he's a hometown kid.

I wouldn't mind that since someone drops to us in that scenario. The Kings are probably the biggest joke in the NBA right now and making that type of mistake fits right into their plans. Chriss is a nice player, but taking him over Brown is a travesty.

[I_Like_Dirt]

I don't think he's falling. He reminds me a ton of Stanley Johnson who went 8th in a way better draft. Jaylen's not falling past 6 - if he were too we would need to swoop up and get him asap.

It's easy to say he won't fall, but I'm not so sure. Yeah, last year's draft was really good, but nobody was saying before the draft that it was going to be an amazing draft. The benefit of hindsight is great and all, but whenever it gets proclaimed that a draft class is weak or strong, it's just as likely to be right as wrong. I tend to see a stronger correlation in drafts being called weaker or stronger based on the number of teams who are or aren't relying on them for a turnaround. In this case, most of the talk of weak draft classes has come from teams that have traded their picks already. Of course it's in their interests to sell the idea that it's a weak draft, and nobody is really going to contradict them, but a bunch of internet experts will get behind them in their mantra. This might be a weaker draft, and likely is because of how strong this past one has been, but it's tough to say.

As for whether he'll fall or not. Besides Johnson, you've got examples of Paul George, Kelly Oubre, Kawhi Leonard, Ben McLemore, Otto Porter, Giannis, Moe Harkless, Wiggins, Parker, and a whole host of interesting big/mobile forwards who have gone all over in the draft over the past few seasons. I'm starting to wonder if Brown won't fall, and I hope he does because he'd be a great fit on the Raptors, although there are plenty of good options.

[TheGoodDoctor]

I don't think he's falling. He reminds me a ton of Stanley Johnson who went 8th in a way better draft. Jaylen's not falling past 6 - if he were too we would need to swoop up and get him asap.

Right now I have him going 7 to the Kings so I doubt he drops. But that's still lower than where he was projected at the start of the year, which was 3rd overall.

I could see the Kings taking Chriss as he's a hometown kid.

If Brown is there I don't think so....they just about brought in WCS to allow DMC to play more PF but it is a possibility I guess.

Just rounding out their young talent in most positions and when Brown is actually the player who was supposed to go higher I don't see why they go with Chriss who seems like more of a gamble with a fairly similar upside (can't really tell who's is higher tbh).

Rondo
Ben
Brown
DMC
WCS

They'd finally have a young core they can work with moving forward. Doesn't make much sense to draft Chriss to be a back up or push WCS to the bench when Brown could be just as good, if not better at a position of need.

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Kings are almost certain to pick Murray if he's available at their pick. Vivek and that Kentucky connection that he so loves (not to mention still trying to lure Calipari)

"Jamal Rocks"

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Seems everyone has it in their heads that Kings finish in front of Denver

[Kevin Willis]

Bender, Sabonis and Ulis all declare. I would like some Bender but it's not happening.

[UnderdogRaptors]

Seems everyone has it in their heads that Kings finish in front of Denver

NBA needs to strip them of their draft picks tbh, never see any improvement from them

[kwamebargnani]

Seems everyone has it in their heads that Kings finish in front of Denver

NBA needs to strip them of their draft picks tbh, never see any improvement from them

Just like us few years back.

[TheGoodDoctor]

Seems everyone has it in their heads that Kings finish in front of Denver

NBA needs to strip them of their draft picks tbh, never see any improvement from them

Just like us few years back.

Jonas, DeRozan....not really.


Btw time to freshen up the screenname to AndreaBennett

[deeps6x]

Just thought I'd throw these all in from part 3. Some of you might find them useful or interesting. A small slice of the stats for the picks we might be interested in.

Power Forwards

A) 8.6 TRB/40, .350 3pt%, .530 FG%, .563 eFG%, 22.1 Pts/40, 1.2 AST/40, 1.5 STL/40, 2.2 BLK/40, .581 TS%, 20.6 PER. Chriss

B) 8.9 TRB/40, .329 3pt%, .462 FG%, .502 eFG%, 25.4 Pts/40, 1.4 AST/40, 0.9 STL/40, 1.2 BLK/40, .574 TS%, 24.5 PER. Ben Bentil

C) 11.9 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .615 FG%, .573 eFG%, 17.5 Pts/40, 1.3 AST/40, 0.7 STL/40, 1.7 BLK/40, .603 TS%, 21.4 PER. Rabb

D) 11.6 TRB/40, .288 3pt%, .446 FG%, .481 eFG%, 17.0 Pts/40, 2.1 AST/40, 1.0 STL/40, 1.5 BLK/40, .533 TS%, 20.0 PER. Ellenson

E) 14.8 TRB/40, .357 3pt%, .611 FG%, .571 eFG%, 22.0 Pts/40, 2.2 AST/40, 0.8 STL/40, 1.1 BLK/40, .620 TS%, 27.1 PER. Sabonis

G) 15.0 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .616 FG%, .573 eFG%, 24.4 Pts/40, 2.1 AST/40, 1.6 STL/40, 2.1 BLK/40, .605 TS%, 31.6 PER. Brice Johnson

G) 11.8 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .598 FG%, .571 eFG%, 16.1 Pts/40, 1.6 AST/40, 0.6 STL/40, 3.9 BLK/40, .576 TS%, 21.6 PER. Deyonta Davis

H) 8.0 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .516 FG%, .506 eFG%, 16.7 Pts/40, 0.8 AST/40, 0.6 STL/40, 4.2 BLK/40, .508 TS%, 18.2 PER. Skal Labissiere

Shooting talent:

A) 6.4 TRB/40, .465 3pt%, .504 FG%, .614 eFG%, 28.8 Pts/40, 2.3 AST/40, 1.3 STL/40, 0.6 BLK/40, .652 TS%, 26.0 PER. Hield

B) 9.1 TRB/40, .444 3pt%, .462 FG%, .604 eFG%, 23.3 Pts/40, 9.4 AST/40, 1.3 STL/40, 0.3 BLK/40, .622 TS%, 30.5 PER. Valentine

C) 5.9 TRB/40, .408 3pt%, .454 FG%, .592 eFG%, 22.7 Pts/40, 2.5 AST/40, 1.1 STL/40, 0.3 BLK/40, .621 TS%, 27.1 PER. Murray

D) 7.9 TRB/40, .361 3pt%, .432 FG%, .514 eFG%, 20.8 Pts/40, 3.0 AST/40, 1.7 STL/40, 1.0 BLK/40, .551 TS%, 20.3 PER. Prince

E) 4.4 TRB/40, .331 3pt%, .451 FG%, .514 eFG%, 17.6 Pts/40, 5.2 AST/40, 1.4 STL/40, 0.3 BLK/40, .560 TS%, 21.0 PER Jackson

F) 6.1 TRB/40, .372 3pt%, .398 FG%, .482 eFG%, 18.8 Pts/40, 3.6 AST/40, 2.2 STL/40, 0.5 BLK/40, .521 TS%, 16.8 PER Luwawu

G) 6.0 TRB/40, .492 3pt%, .500 FG%, N/A eFG%, 18.8 Pts/40, 3.6 AST/40, 1.8 STL/40, 1.0 BLK/40, .640 TS%, 19.4 PER Cordinier

H) 11.4 TRB/40, .294 3pt%, .431 FG%, .471 eFG%, 21.2 Pts/40, 2.9 AST/40, 1.2 STL/40, 0.9 BLK/40, .518 TS%, 17.6 PER Brown


Centers. Well... lets call them 7 footers, as some of them are really just tall PFs

A) 12.0 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .646 FG%, .624 eFG%, 22.7 Pts/40, 2.6 AST/40, 0.8 STL/40, 2.0 BLK/40, .652 TS%, 31.1 PER. Poeltl

B) 9.3 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .568 FG%, .556 eFG%, 21.6 Pts/40, 0.7 AST/40, 0.9 STL/40, 2.9 BLK/40, .609 TS%, 29.5 PER. Stone

* Comparables from the past

C) 14.0 TRB/40, .200 3pt%, .626 FG%, .603 eFG%, 19.4 Pts/40, 2.3 AST/40, 1.5 STL/40, 4.5 BLK/40, .642 TS%, 30??? PER. Embid

D) 12.7 TRB/40, .250 3pt%, .566 FG%, .588 eFG%, 19.5 Pts/40, 2.1 AST/40, 0.9 STL/40, 4.3 BLK/40, .643 TS%, 31.9 PER. Karl-Anthony Towns

E) 11.3 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .664 FG%, .652 eFG%, 23.0 Pts/40, 1.7 AST/40, 1.0 STL/40, 1.9 BLK/40, .635 TS%, 31.0 PER Jahlil Okafor

F) 9.9 TRB/40, N/A 3pt%, .572 FG%, .571 eFG%, 13.8 Pts/40, 1.5 AST/40, 1.9 STL/40, 2.6 BLK/40, .576 TS%, 24.3 PER Willie Cauley-Stein

G) 11.8 TRB/40, .274 3pt%, .455 FG%, .446 eFG%, 18.3 Pts/40, 1.1 AST/40, 0.5 STL/40, 4.7 BLK/40, .508 TS%, 26.2 PER Myles Turner