Is Lowry purposely playing bad/being fat to avoid being traded?!

[alienchild]

I swear this guy is purposely playing bad to avoid being traded. We know his family is settled here at the moment and he would hate to be traded mid season. I would not be shocked at all if he starts getting in better shape and starts playing better after the trade deadline. I mean at this point its all we can hope for because his shot falling off a cliff and him being fat has been an anchor on his trade value. He is definitely not playing like an all star.

Thoughts?

Try thinking before you ask for thoughts.

[Mack11]

lmao

[Useyourhead]

I swear this guy is purposely playing bad to avoid being traded. We know his family is settled here at the moment and he would hate to be traded mid season. I would not be shocked at all if he starts getting in better shape and starts playing better after the trade deadline. I mean at this point its all we can hope for because his shot falling off a cliff and him being fat has been an anchor on his trade value. He is definitely not playing like an all star.

Thoughts?

Try thinking before you ask for thoughts.

I'm sorry alienchild, that we are not all as intelligent as you... thank you for your value added comments

[Kabookalu]

All these theories to explain away Lowry's struggles, when he's displayed these draughts consistently his entire career here.

That he had. Just seems so much worse this time around. His attitude and everything else.

This is something else entirely, but I believe this is where his relationship with DeRozan comes in. I recall certain moments during his career here where he looked toxic, but it was always DeRozan that settled him down. The first time actually was his first season with us, and he had this look to his face in one of the press conferences like he just didn't want to be here anymore. It generated a couple of memes here too like "I'm so sorry McHale" or "I made a huge mistake." There was also that time where he, Lou Williams (I think it was Lou, not 100% sure), and Chuck Hayes formed that cabal and the lockerroom was supposedly really toxic.

It's been reported though that DeRozan was always the one that reeled him back in. I believe Lowry confessed to this a couple of times too. Lowry could have looked like this in the past too when things went awry if we didn't have DeMar.

[Gold Dragon]

I swear this guy is purposely playing bad to avoid being traded. We know his family is settled here at the moment and he would hate to be traded mid season. I would not be shocked at all if he starts getting in better shape and starts playing better after the trade deadline. I mean at this point its all we can hope for because his shot falling off a cliff and him being fat has been an anchor on his trade value. He is definitely not playing like an all star.

Thoughts?

Try thinking before you ask for thoughts.

You could even say "try using your head".

[Useyourhead]

All these theories to explain away Lowry's struggles, when he's displayed these draughts consistently his entire career here.

That he had. Just seems so much worse this time around. His attitude and everything else.

This is something else entirely, but I believe this is where his relationship with DeRozan comes in. I recall certain moments during his career here where he looked toxic, but it was always DeRozan that settled him down. The first time actually was his first season with us, and he had this look to his face in one of the press conferences like he just didn't want to be here anymore. It generated a couple of memes here too like "I'm so sorry McHale" or "I made a huge mistake." There was also that time where he, Lou Williams (I think it was Lou, not 100% sure), and Chuck Hayes formed that cabal and the lockerroom was supposedly really toxic.

It's been reported though that DeRozan was always the one that reeled him back in. I believe Lowry confessed to this a couple of times too. Lowry could have looked like this in the past too when things went awry if we didn't have DeMar.

If that's true that's clearly not a good sign, i guess the reason i'm even asking the question is because you think the guy would treat this as his best shot to go to the finals in his career and want to play much better. I get he can't help getting hurt but for god sakes at least take care of your body and watch what you eat while you are not playing. To not do so is simply irresponsible. BTW i'm actually a big lowry fan and think he has been the heart and soul of this team but it feels like he's either doing this intentionally or is being irresponsible and wasting his best chance for the finals as a key member. He's not that old where his metabolism would just drop off a cliff.

[Useyourhead]

I swear this guy is purposely playing bad to avoid being traded. We know his family is settled here at the moment and he would hate to be traded mid season. I would not be shocked at all if he starts getting in better shape and starts playing better after the trade deadline. I mean at this point its all we can hope for because his shot falling off a cliff and him being fat has been an anchor on his trade value. He is definitely not playing like an all star.

Thoughts?

Try thinking before you ask for thoughts.

You could even say "try using your head".

ha good one, you should be on stage

[Johnny Bball]

He's just old, fat, and broken down. He's finished as a productive, high usage player.

He's never been a high usage player. So he can't be finished at something he never was. Not to mention I highly doubt people age overnight or over a month magically as is suggested by the kids in this thread.

And wtf is with be fat comments here.

[Gold Dragon]

1. The first few games after his injury were getting back into game shape and finding his shooting rhythym. I think he is nearly there.

2. The last few games have been chemistry with Kawhi and the team as a whole having trouble executing what what Nurse is trying to. The stupid turnovers on handoffs and passes going to where players aren't is a sign of players trying to figure out a system. His shots have been going in some games but he has struggled in bigger competition games for whatever reason. I don't think it is physical but more a reflection of their lack of flow on offense.

He is still doing all the little things like drawing charges, setting up his teammates for their sweet spots and bringing intensity when he is on the court. His speed to stay with his man on D and get by his man on dribble penetration was never a strong suit for him and maybe he is a bit slower than before. But I wouldn't say it is dramatic.

[suntzuballin]

LOL i thought i was a overthinker

[Anticon]

Saw this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/am3im2/lowry_before_his_back_injury_463362826_603_ts/

Lowry before his back injury: .463/.362/.826 (.603 TS%).
Lowry after his back injury: .348/.277/.869 (.494 TS%)

I still think he's messed up. Even if he's declining, that's falling off a cliff in the middle of a season that was interrupted by a debilitating injury.

I mean, part of the reality of decline due to age is that its often characterized by a debilitating or chronic injury that you just can't recover from like you used to.

[Yosemite Dan]

Has there ever been a player in the history of the NBA, never mind Raptor history, who has been given more excuses by the fanbase than Lowry? I can’t think of any.

He’s a mental midget plain and simple. Demar was simply exposed as a very flawed player in the playoffs but at least he didn’t play scared most of the time. Lowry is the type of personality who just cannot perform on the big stage. It’s a personality flaw, never gonna change. He’ll have a mini run here and there in the postseason but for the most part he’ll be timid and shaky. The guy was even timid during the freaking all star game in Toronto with the world watching.

Make all the excuses you want but we all know what’s gonna happen come playoff time. And this rubs off on the rest of the team since he’s perceived as the leader

[Yosemite Dan]

Saw this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/am3im2/lowry_before_his_back_injury_463362826_603_ts/

Lowry before his back injury: .463/.362/.826 (.603 TS%).
Lowry after his back injury: .348/.277/.869 (.494 TS%)

I still think he's messed up. Even if he's declining, that's falling off a cliff in the middle of a season that was interrupted by a debilitating injury.

I mean, part of the reality of decline due to age is that its often characterized by a debilitating or chronic injury that you just can't recover from like you used to.

Since he’s so debilitated, wouldn’t it be a good idea to skip the all star festivities but we both know he’s gonna be there.

[Anticon]

Saw this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/am3im2/lowry_before_his_back_injury_463362826_603_ts/

Lowry before his back injury: .463/.362/.826 (.603 TS%).
Lowry after his back injury: .348/.277/.869 (.494 TS%)

I still think he's messed up. Even if he's declining, that's falling off a cliff in the middle of a season that was interrupted by a debilitating injury.

I mean, part of the reality of decline due to age is that its often characterized by a debilitating or chronic injury that you just can't recover from like you used to.

Since he’s so debilitated, wouldn’t it be a good idea to skip the all star festivities but we both know he’s gonna be there.

I mean, yes, I guess? But hard to know enough about his injury to say whether rest or rehab would help that much.

[Yosemite Dan]

I mean, part of the reality of decline due to age is that its often characterized by a debilitating or chronic injury that you just can't recover from like you used to.

Since he’s so debilitated, wouldn’t it be a good idea to skip the all star festivities but we both know he’s gonna be there.

I mean, yes, I guess? But hard to know enough about his injury to say whether rest or rehab would help that much.

So he has one of those rare injuries that rest or rehab won’t help? Sounds about right. He has no problem missing multiple Raptor games to help remedy it but I guess the ASG is top priority. If he’s well enough to ply that then he’s well enough to play every Raptor game here on in and any excuses no longer hold water.

[Anticon]

Since he’s so debilitated, wouldn’t it be a good idea to skip the all star festivities but we both know he’s gonna be there.

I mean, yes, I guess? But hard to know enough about his injury to say whether rest or rehab would help that much.

So he has one of those rare injuries that rest or rehab won’t help? Sounds about right. He has no problem missing multiple Raptor games to help remedy it but I guess the ASG is top priority. If he’s well enough to ply that then he’s well enough to play every Raptor game here on in and any excuses no longer hold water.

lmao why are you asking me like I have some special insight. But I think you're probably right - plus a trip to see Villanova play in the tournament if they make it.

[Uncle Dennis]

Guys, he hasn't aged magically in a few months, but he has likely suffered an injury that will plague him until he retires. Also, who's to say that his "MVP-like" start to the season wasn't simply an extremely hot spell? He regressed to the mean, then got injured, and is now a role player. What remains to be seen is if this is a permanent thing. But I'm continually losing more and more faith as the games continue to roll by (and as he continues to crap the bed over and over again).

[Mr_NC]

Buuuuuuut there were so many Kyle Lowry MVP threads earlier this season!? What happened!?

[T-Dot-O]

He's getting older channeling his inner Raymond Felton.

[Quiet-Dude]

One thing is to be injured and another thing is to be overweight.

He needs to lose some weight and start doing shooting drills for real.