Lowe / Windhorst: Inside a tense NBA owners meeting

[SHFT]

I'm sure Silver has no plans to address any of this.

Well there is not much he can do about it if players are meeting players which is how all of this "officially" gets done. If they move the June 30th date backwards, players and teams will just start recruiting earlier.

"hey lebron, we cant contact AD but you got a show, put him on"

But yeah Silver himself probably doesn't care. He is just trying to make sure the owners are collectively happy which is basically his job so you call a meeting and let everyone air out their **** to make it seem like he is trying to control the situation.

[C Court]

They have to do something before the FBI steps in.

The salary structure, trade requests, all of that can be modified to give ownerships control again.

But the side payments through family members, thats a very bad look that stinks of corruption.

It's against the law. We're talking about illegal kickbacks and bribes to family members, in order to deliver Player X to Team Y.

The NBA can't effectively police these side deals and backdoor payments. Essentially you need a whistleblower who gives the FBI solid evidence and probable cause to investigate. Then you can follow the money.

[Tanner]

Silver is too busy swimming in money. He doesn’t care. Nothing will change.

[scopy]

Silver is too busy swimming in money. He doesn’t care. Nothing will change.

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[sule]

This current situation is going to be the real legacy of LeBron James and The Heatles. It's all been spiraling out of control ever since then. LeBron and his posse have figured out every way to skirt basic ethics and it's something every player now feels compelled to skirt as well.

[rage2021]

Cold take
Silver will do absolutely nothing..as he has been since being commissioner

[power works]

Yup nothing is gonna be done.

[ruckus]

Where did all this resentment towards Commissioner Silver come from?

Compared to Stern, Silver has been much better for the game.

Is it because he looks like the dean from Community that incompetence is just inferred?

[ratul]

Nothing will change. The league blows. I am def not going to watch anything other than the raps.

[team edward]

This current situation is going to be the real legacy of LeBron James and The Heatles. It's all been spiraling out of control ever since then. LeBron and his posse have figured out every way to skirt basic ethics and it's something every player now feels compelled to skirt as well.

Woah woah woah

Basic ethics? What basic ethics are broken here?

We are talking about potential, rumoured, violations of rules that are intended to restrict the ability of people to negotiate their own deals.

So he asked for a plane. So what? Drake was all about getting Kawhi a plane and a producer credit. So he pressured LAC into a trade. So what? LAC didn’t have to.

[tripa]

Nothing will change. The league blows. I am def not going to watch anything other than the raps.

Damn! How will the league ever survive?

[mulamutti]

well this is not a problem for about 90-95% of the players in the league. Its a select few superstars and all stars that can command this type of collusion. The problem is this <5% fo the league have figured out that they can manipulate the NBA and its obviously getting out of hand. You have to set better rules than ensure these few players can't wreck the chance at parity. If the top 5-10 players always weasel out of their contracts and force their way into top few teams, it undermines all the efforts at parity over the last few decades. So the league will do something. otherwise, this could kill teams like milwaukee, charlotte, etc.

Also, these players often seem to use the narrative, of its us vs. the rich executives. But in this scenario of collusion during free agency, we're not talking about rich executives vs. the margnialized nba player. Its literally 100M+ net worth players forcing their way into markets where they can increase their net worth even more. So the executive in this scenario is poorer than the superstars, most of them by a large margin. These players don't deserve the right to break out mid-contract and bolt. that's absurd. Kawhi, Kemba, etc. can go wherever they want. But Paul George to make demands mid-contract should automatically come with a huge penalty that he gives up to make that happen.

[Tofubeque]

If Uncle Dennis actually got kickbacks from Ballmer, I hope the NBA/FBI at least do enough that he starts looking over his shoulder for the feds wherever he goes

[TdotRap4Lyfe]

If Uncle Dennis actually got kickbacks from Ballmer, I hope the NBA/FBI at least do enough that he starts looking over his shoulder for the feds wherever he goes

If it's ever found out that he did prior to winning it. Does a championship become disqualified?

[ratul]

Nothing will change. The league blows. I am def not going to watch anything other than the raps.

Damn! How will the league ever survive?

That's what baseball said.

[maternal85]

Where did all this resentment towards Commissioner Silver come from?

Compared to Stern, Silver has been much better for the game.

Is it because he looks like the dean from Community that incompetence is just inferred?

He's soft and everyone knows it. It's like the wild west in the NBA now. Some of the things people are doing like uncle Dennis, they wouldn't try under stern. Stern is an OG who simply wouldn't tolerate such a thing. If stern was commissioner right now, he'd be working with the FBI to find out how the clippers transferred money and property to uncle Dennis and Leonard weird looking friend Jeremy. Because we all know Leonard camp got perks. The clippers wouldn't dare to do such a thing under stern watch. Stern caught the little Joe Smith scandal. He definately would have been watching and catch the nonsense going on today.

[tor1234567]

And people still debating that it's just sour grapes.... this is 100% a real huge issue.

And this was my question yesterday. How did Dennis not have to have to be certified by the union. And how did he not lose that certification.

You know, the world is going to crap when Trump blatantly uses nepotism for his daughter, son-in law and his sons, to parade around the world to meet with world leaders and have zero right to be there. What is more mind boggling is that no one holds him accountable for this and allows it to happen.

Seems like we are at a point in society where some people feel like they can do whatever they want without any consequences.

I am grateful that other professions such as engineering and the medical fields are governed better than this. (at least I hope they are)

Well they are... because you need real, measurable ability to be a doctor or an engineer.

There really isn't anything that can measure how good a politician is. It's just based on public perception, but even we (the public) have no idea what to measure a politician on.

Most people love Obama, because he says the right things and has a calming demeanor... But he also razed Libya to the ground for no reason. Depending on how you perceive what he did, you'll find that there's no clear way to measure his performance. So, the role of a politician makes it any easy role to fill with pretty much anyone (making it easy for nepotism to take place). Heck, we have Pierre Elliot Trudeau's son as our PM, who barely finished school and is borderline autistic... But he seems to be doing OK too.

With the doctor, it's easy to measure. For example, if the doc has a 100% patient death rate on all surgeries he's performed, I'm pretty sure he's done, lol.

[TheAlchemist]

There's a couple of issues the 2019 Free agency brought up;

- Teams talking to players through back channels / agents / whatever means necessary and tampering to the 5th degree.

- Player family (specifically Kawhi's uncle) demanding things and acting like agents, needs to be regulated and mandated properly

- The advantadge of having your own free agents / signed players is being completely nullified and killing small markets.

I honestly think there's going to be a big ass lockout happening. I can't blame the players families, for asking for everything, if they literally do receive it , i.e. Kawhi's family getting houses etc. perhaps from Balmer.

Get ready for a crazy rodeo folks, the CBA will be completely changed and the NBA will be going towards a hardcap most likely.

[Inklink]

It'll be like a last 2 minute report / apology after getting screwed type of response by spineless silver.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

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