Should Masai cut McCaw from the team?

[almatic]

Patrick McCaw's abysmal play has united this board.

That's how dumb this board is.

A bunch of hiveminded sheep.

[dalton749]

If that’s what it takes to stop watching him, yes. There is too much talent on this team to play someone as incompetent as him offensively. Rondae , Boucher, Davis can all provide a similar level defensive impact if not better, and they actually do something at the other end.

Today was the first time i turned off a game early, there was zero chance we were coming back with him out there.

[WiggOuts]

Pat hasnt gotten an opportunity to show what he has since hes been here. This is his opportunity. Hes going to get extended run whether people like it or not. This is how our team functions. Put in the work and eventually youll get a chance. Freds been through it, Norms been through it, Bouchers been through it. This is how it goes, and this is why players want to be be developed in our program. If RHJ is getting burn, Pat better be getting burn aswell, hes been here longer. He has tools worth taking a look at and hasnt really been as bad as people make it seem. He just needs to be more aggressive looking to score. Blending in is good, positively standing out is better. Look at the tweak Norm made, assertiveness is the key. Fans here are spoiled with talent, not every player serves the same purpose and good games come in many different forms

[TheWave]

Yes (Not sure cutting is the answer though), no scout that is watching this joke out there any interest. You're not going to sell anyone on him. Just be done with it.

[TheWave]

Pat hasnt gotten an opportunity to show what he has since hes been here. This is his opportunity. Hes going to get extended run whether people like it or not. This is how our team functions. Put in the work and eventually youll get a chance. Freds been through it, Norms been through it, Bouchers been through it. This is how it goes, and this is why players want to be be developed in our program. If RHJ is getting burn, Pat better be getting burn aswell, hes been here longer. He has tools worth taking a look at and hasnt really been as bad as people make it seem. He just needs to be more aggressive looking to score. Blending in is good, positively standing out is better. Look at the tweak Norm made, assertiveness is the key. Fans here are spoiled with talent, not every player serves the same purpose and good games come in many different forms

Maybe now isn't the best time for multiple reasons. I mean, you'd think you would want to be a bit more healthy and insulate him and up his value a bit, but no. Just throwing him out and running him like a vet 32mins a game is how we're going to it. Just finishing the deed off I guess. Do it right I guess, for keeps, total annihilation of his value.

[Dennis 37]

**** you, OP.
**** you.

Hate toxic threads like this. Can we just cut OP as a fan? And all you nephews agreeing with him?
Horrible takes.

You missed the point. This isn't about McCaw. OP's point us that nothing will stop Nurse from over playing someone who does not deserve the amount of minutes he is getting. If nothing will stop Nurse, then it's up to Masai.

[DrCoach]

No way you cut the dude who has like 3 rings in a row, bad Karma

[agentzero2010]

A lot of people criticize Nurse for playing McCaw too many minutes but who else can he play? Hollis Jefferson is great but he cannot shoot. Johnson is not ready. Siakam is hurt. Norm is hurt. I suppose he could play more Boucher at the 4 but Gasol is hurt too and we are very thin at the 5 spot.

McCaw seems to be the safest alternative although undoubtedly not the ideal starting 3.

At the end, I see him as a filler in a trade. He could be a solid journeyman but nothing more IMO.

We will see what Masai does with the expiring deals and some of the younger prospects on this team but for now, I’m afraid it’s McCaw aka back to back to back champ, until Siakam comes back.

[bluerap23]

A lot of people criticize Nurse for playing McCaw too many minutes but who else can he play? Hollis Jefferson is great but he cannot shoot. Johnson is not ready. Siakam is hurt. Norm is hurt. I suppose he could play more Boucher at the 4 but Gasol is hurt too and we are very thin at the 5 spot.

McCaw seems to be the safest alternative although undoubtedly not the ideal starting 3.

At the end, I see him as a filler in a trade. He could be a solid journeyman but nothing more IMO.

We will see what Masai does with the expiring deals and some of the younger prospects on this team but for now, I’m afraid it’s McCaw aka back to back to back champ, until Siakam comes back.

This board wants to see TD playing 40mpg

[Johnny Bball]

Holy **** people...there are 9 players left and that includes Miller. Who plays at small forward? TD the rookie and have nobody on the bench at pg? Now the hypocrites down front want a three point guard lineup? Lmfao. Or maybe you would prefer they start RHJ so McCaw has to back up the PF spot....both of which are stupid ideas.

All people do is lash out at the 3rd string guy without even considering any of he reality. This fanbase....

[Dennis 37]

Pat hasnt gotten an opportunity to show what he has since hes been here. This is his opportunity. Hes going to get extended run whether people like it or not. This is how our team functions. Put in the work and eventually youll get a chance. Freds been through it, Norms been through it, Bouchers been through it. This is how it goes, and this is why players want to be be developed in our program. If RHJ is getting burn, Pat better be getting burn aswell, hes been here longer. He has tools worth taking a look at and hasnt really been as bad as people make it seem. He just needs to be more aggressive looking to score. Blending in is good, positively standing out is better. Look at the tweak Norm made, assertiveness is the key. Fans here are spoiled with talent, not every player serves the same purpose and good games come in many different forms

Those of us, who pushed the position that Norm should start, understand your premise. The difference is that once Norm had a couple of starts one could see how he fit on both ends of the court.

McCaw simply does not fit.

Boucher was never gifted floor time he hadn't earned.

RHJ gets yanked as soon as he thinks he should shoot threes, yet nothing causes McCaw to be yanked.

[Dennis 37]

Holy **** people...there are 9 players left and that includes Miller. Who plays at small forward? TD the rookie and have nobody on the bench at pg? Now the hypocrites down front want a three point guard lineup? Lmfao. Or maybe you would prefer they start RHJ so McCaw has to back up the PF spot....both of which are stupid ideas.

All people do is lash out at the 3rd string guy without even considering any of he reality. This fanbase....

You have a point about limited bodies, but both McCaw and Serge were hesitant to take the three yesterday. That screws up the offence more often than not and the possession is wasted. The solution is to give half of McCaw's minutes to TD and Boucher. Does that mean we have to see three point guards at times? Yes it does. But what we are seeing now is not pretty.

[Red_Claw]

This thread doesn't deserve a response but im gonna do it anyways.

McCaw hasnt impressed me at all but he's not a team cancer. He plays hard and is good defensively. Injuries aside, his problems are on the offensive end and Nurse doesn't seem to react to that which is the primary problem.

Cutting McCaw and paying for his 4 mil contract this year and 4 mil next year is the most idiotic thing ive heard this season.

You receive no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

[Johnny Bball]

Holy **** people...there are 9 players left and that includes Miller. Who plays at small forward? TD the rookie and have nobody on the bench at pg? Now the hypocrites down front want a three point guard lineup? Lmfao. Or maybe you would prefer they start RHJ so McCaw has to back up the PF spot....both of which are stupid ideas.

All people do is lash out at the 3rd string guy without even considering any of he reality. This fanbase....

You have a point about limited bodies, but both McCaw and Serge were hesitant to take the three yesterday. That screws up the offence more often than not and the possession is wasted. The solution is to give half of McCaw's minutes to TD and Boucher. Does that mean we have to see three point guards at times? Yes it does. But what we are seeing now is not pretty.

Lowry and FVV were hesitant taking threes yesterday coming off screens. Go back and watch every time they come off they aren’t shooting even when open. And you blame the guys that might take four threes between them? Come on man...


And now y’all wanting three smaller point guards out there because now it’s acceptable out of nowhere, and now the arguments against it don’t matter one bit anymore. So I can just chalk that up to a narrative to wanting Powell instead of FVV then. Height only mattered then but not at SF and SG now?

It’s not just a point about limited bodies...it’s where the conversation should start and end.

[Psubs]

A lot of people criticize Nurse for playing McCaw too many minutes but who else can he play? Hollis Jefferson is great but he cannot shoot. Johnson is not ready. Siakam is hurt. Norm is hurt. I suppose he could play more Boucher at the 4 but Gasol is hurt too and we are very thin at the 5 spot.

McCaw seems to be the safest alternative although undoubtedly not the ideal starting 3.

At the end, I see him as a filler in a trade. He could be a solid journeyman but nothing more IMO.

We will see what Masai does with the expiring deals and some of the younger prospects on this team but for now, I’m afraid it’s McCaw aka back to back to back champ, until Siakam comes back.

This board wants to see TD playing 40mpg

Nah, just 30 mpg.

Once Powell is healthy, I would trade McCaw to the Lakers for Cousins, who would be waived.

[Johnny Bball]

A lot of people criticize Nurse for playing McCaw too many minutes but who else can he play? Hollis Jefferson is great but he cannot shoot. Johnson is not ready. Siakam is hurt. Norm is hurt. I suppose he could play more Boucher at the 4 but Gasol is hurt too and we are very thin at the 5 spot.

McCaw seems to be the safest alternative although undoubtedly not the ideal starting 3.

At the end, I see him as a filler in a trade. He could be a solid journeyman but nothing more IMO.

We will see what Masai does with the expiring deals and some of the younger prospects on this team but for now, I’m afraid it’s McCaw aka back to back to back champ, until Siakam comes back.

This board wants to see TD playing 40mpg

Nah, just 30 mpg.

Once Powell is healthy, I would trade McCaw to the Lakers for Cousins, who would be waived.

??? And what would be the point of that trade?

[sbsat]

I honestly dont understand why mccaw gets the playing time he does and have yet to see a plausible explanation.

Nurse is ride or die with him much like fvv in the playoffs last yr. So you never know...

[Badonkadonk]

I went to the Wizards game last game, where McCaw was assertive on offense. He looked like a completely different player.

Sometimes player development looks ugly. He just turned 24 and they're giving him some run to see what he turns into.

It may or may not work out, but what you don't do is cut him. That's just stupid.

[Tanner]

People saying to give McCaw a chance don't really follow basketball much. He's 24. Someone that age would have had to show something to give the impression that there is upside. What does McCaw have going for him where you can say "if he just developed XY he'd be good"? He's like the most below average looking player I have seen at everything he does. Not athletic, not a lockdown defender (despite his unwarranted rep), offensive game is non existent, doesn't show great handles, etc, etc. Where is the upside? What are you thinking he's going to develop into by playing him 30 minutes a night?

I said it before, he's to Nurse what Michael Curry was to KO. The guy who does nothing well, provides nothing on the statsheet, but "OMG INTANGIBLES!!!". You guys can "wait and see" what he develops into. You'll be disappointed if you expect anything resembling NBA rotation player, but keep the dream alive, I guess.

[Badonkadonk]

People saying to give McCaw a chance don't really follow basketball much. He's 24. Someone that age would have had to show something to give the impression that there is upside. What does McCaw have going for him where you can say "if he just developed XY he'd be good"? He's like the most below average looking player I have seen at everything he does. Not athletic, not a lockdown defender (despite his unwarranted rep), offensive game is non existent, doesn't show great handles, etc, etc. Where is the upside? What are you thinking he's going to develop into by playing him 30 minutes a night?

The irony of your first sentence

Why do you think the Warriors and now the Raptors have both tried to unlock McCaw? I just laugh when couch-bound savants go off like this.

I'll tell you what their coaching staffs see, it's been written about at length and you would know if you actually played or coached: he is good off the ball, executes rotations and switches well, has great size for a guard (6'7"), is agile and is pretty secure with the ball. His lack of assertiveness (on both ends) and shooting touch sabotages his performance too regularly.

Again, it may come together or it may not. Just stop with the age stuff though, one of the Raps' calling cards is refining players that may have traditionally been considered "too old" to continue developing. Pascal still showed tremendous growth when he was still 24, and yeah, that included skills that some never envisioned him having (eg. pull-up 3s above the break instead of just standing in the corner for them).