Should The Raptors Revisit The Siakam To Warriors Trade?

[AussieRaptor]

I would’ve done the trade before the draft. Because it didn’t happen then, I highly doubt it’s going to happen now. I doubt Raptors would’ve turned down that haul, so I’m guessing all assets weren’t involved. Or maybe GSW are holding out for a bigger fish.

[PerfectJab]

The Warriors signing Otto Porter Jr. makes this a trivial discussion.

I'm not the biggest fan of Siakam by any means, but I think some of you are underrating his value now.

[Tor_Raps]

That's what Joe Lacob said few days ago "And I know this isn’t popular with a lot of people," Lacob told The Athletic's Anthony Slater. "They think we ought to go get the next star. We already have the stars. And we have a payroll that’s — and I’ve said this when I was interviewed before, but nobody listened. It’s very unlikely, I’ve said that we’re not going to trade for anybody that people are expecting. Very unlikely. It’s not impossible. But if it was going to be somebody, it was going to be somebody really great. It was going to be a big trade. It’s unlikely."" So the more likely path — and the path that I think, as an owner, I feel most comfortable with, quite frankly — is to bridge the gap to the future,” Lacob told Slater. “We’ve got three or four contracts and big players that are still in their early 30s, still have quite a bit of time to go, especially in this day and age. If we can kind of have a Wiseman and a Kuminga and a Moody and a Poole (help in the meantime). They don’t have to be awesome next year. With a great investment in our player development staff, we just want them to show great potential"

The only star player they wanted to trade for is Beal. They wouldn't sell their farm/future for Siakam. Forget it.

This is probably to tell teams that they're not desperate to add another star and will not overpay for it. It's similar to the Sixers asking for everything for Simmons.

It is only to both their detriment to not make a move. Maybe the final trade doesn't include Moody or has another good piece going to them.

[Appostis]

I get that these boards have turned toxic but settle the f down.

Pascal was worth more then that package.

[normgod6]

i think theres a good opportunity to make a trade with the blazers. They are desperate to add talent to prevent Dame from leaving and we can probably get a good return of unprotected picks and Nassir Little/Antfernee Simons from them

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[PhilBlackson]

YES!

We're obviously not committed to trying to win now. We could've picked up guys like Monk, Otto and Drummond for next to nothing but as usual sitting on our hands while everything is getting snatched up. Since we're not fully committed to winning, fully commit to the rebuild and move Siakam now.

[tdotrep2]

its possible his trade value could increase this season, but clearly we are trying to tank and i really like both kuminga and moody

[Public_Enemy101]

I get that these boards have turned toxic but settle the f down.

Pascal was worth more then that package.

No he's not. He's a 3 string player being paid an inflated salary. The quicker you accept this, the faster we can move on to better days.

[Appostis]

I get that these boards have turned toxic but settle the f down.

Pascal was worth more then that package.

No he's not. He's a 3 string player being paid an inflated salary. The quicker you accept this, the faster we can move on to better days.

Sure man sure

Clueless toxic fan season.

He's payed at worse on fair value. Get past the narrative and look at the numbers. He's a damn good player.

[Johnny Bball]

Always fine to revisit. But the warriors need rookie salaries, since they are paying huge tax. So I just don't see them making this rumoured move.

[ILOVEIT]

Warrior fan...come in peace.

But I got tired at Raptor fans laughing at the trade value of picks for Siakam. I kept saying "if you are in a rebuilding mode Wiggins and picks are a great package.

Oh well....I'd still take Siakam for a re-signed Ourbre, Wiseman, Kuminga

It all may still be on the table btw....Warriors aren't doing that great in FA.

[Tor_Raps]

Warrior fan...come in peace.

But I got tired at Raptor fans laughing at the trade value of picks for Siakam. I kept saying "if you are in a rebuilding mode Wiggins and picks are a great package.

Oh well....I'd still take Siakam for a re-signed Ourbre, Wiseman, Kuminga

It all may still be on the table btw....Warriors aren't doing that great in FA.

You cant combine players in a sign and trade. More realistic approach would be trading Wiseman, Kuminga, Wiggins, Moody for Siakam, Boucher and a 2nd rounder. Then you guys re-sign Oubre.

Curry/
Klay/ Porter
Oubre/ Toscano Anderson
Siakam/ Bjelica/ Paschall
Green/ Boucher/ Looney

[Mob Byers]

Warrior fan...come in peace.

But I got tired at Raptor fans laughing at the trade value of picks for Siakam. I kept saying "if you are in a rebuilding mode Wiggins and picks are a great package.

Oh well....I'd still take Siakam for a re-signed Ourbre, Wiseman, Kuminga

It all may still be on the table btw....Warriors aren't doing that great in FA.

You cant combine players in a sign and trade. More realistic approach would be trading Wiseman, Kuminga, Wiggins, Moody for Siakam, Boucher and a 2nd rounder. Then you guys re-sign Oubre.

Curry/
Klay/ Lee
Oubre/ Porter / Toscano Anderson
Siakam/ Bjelica/ Paschall
Green/ Looney

No interest in this, at all. Mostly because it has us resigning Poobre.

And more importantly, we are now projected to pay almost $200 million tax penalty this year. We need to keep our young guys on rookie deals. We are locked up and can basically only sign vet min guys looking to redeem themselves. We aren't a premier free agent destination outside of getting lucky with KD.

Lee, Porter, JTA, Bjelica, and Looney could all be gone and then we are left chasing vet mins again next year trying to build a team around Curry/Klay/Oubre/Siakam/Green/2022 rookies/vet min guys. Not exactly a great position to be in and really a great way to become a treadmill team with no future and 3 mains guys slowly burning out.

I'd much prefer to stay put, especially if Siakam costs THIS much. Bob hangs up quick.

And on top of that that I personally don't think Siakam is a good fit in GSW no matter how much you guys want to convince us otherwise.

[will]

No. The Raptors should not revisit the Siakam to Warriors trade.

[Tor_Raps]

Warrior fan...come in peace.

But I got tired at Raptor fans laughing at the trade value of picks for Siakam. I kept saying "if you are in a rebuilding mode Wiggins and picks are a great package.

Oh well....I'd still take Siakam for a re-signed Ourbre, Wiseman, Kuminga

It all may still be on the table btw....Warriors aren't doing that great in FA.

You cant combine players in a sign and trade. More realistic approach would be trading Wiseman, Kuminga, Wiggins, Moody for Siakam, Boucher and a 2nd rounder. Then you guys re-sign Oubre.

Curry/
Klay/ Lee
Oubre/ Porter / Toscano Anderson
Siakam/ Bjelica/ Paschall
Green/ Looney

No interest in this, at all. Mostly because it has us resigning Poobre.

And more importantly, we are now projected to pay almost $200 million tax penalty this year. We need to keep our young guys on rookie deals. We are locked up and can basically only sign vet min guys looking to redeem themselves. We aren't a premier free agent destination outside of getting lucky with KD.

Lee, Porter, JTA, Bjelica, and Looney could all be gone and then we are left chasing vet mins again next year trying to build a team around Curry/Klay/Oubre/Siakam/Green/2022 rookies/vet min guys. Not exactly a great position to be in and really a great way to become a treadmill team with no future and 3 mains guys slowly burning out.

I'd much prefer to stay put, especially if Siakam costs THIS much. Bob hangs up quick.

And on top of that that I personally don't think Siakam is a good fit in GSW no matter how much you guys want to convince us otherwise.

You guys already have Porter/Bjelica and we're also giving Boucher here too, which I forgot to include.

I was just listing out your potential depth chart. You can revise the trade as you need

[720]

Warrior fan...come in peace.

But I got tired at Raptor fans laughing at the trade value of picks for Siakam. I kept saying "if you are in a rebuilding mode Wiggins and picks are a great package.

Oh well....I'd still take Siakam for a re-signed Ourbre, Wiseman, Kuminga

It all may still be on the table btw....Warriors aren't doing that great in FA.

The fact that this supposed deal hasn't been talked about since pre draft suggests one of the teams is no longer interested. Either the Raptors think Siakam's value is higher or the Warriors think their lottery picks can help contend sooner rather than later.

[GetFamiliar]

It's honestly hilarious that people will just assume media speculated deals were "on the table", as stated on social media.

Exactly! Anyone can come up with a graphic with trade details and put it out there as a "rumored trade" which can happen....that actually happens fairly often.
Seems to get some dumb fans (especially here) into really thinking the teams are 100% proposing that trade

[xdrta+]

You cant combine players in a sign and trade.

Of course you can. Look at the Jrue Holiday/Steven Adams four-team trade during the 2020 offseason. The Pelicans had to sign-and-trade a bunch of guys to the Thunder in order to make salary matching work.

[Tor_Raps]

You cant combine players in a sign and trade.

Of course you can. Look at the Jrue Holiday/Steven Adams four-team trade during the 2020 offseason. The Pelicans had to sign-and-trade a bunch of guys to the Thunder in order to make salary matching work.

I was always under the impression the team signing and trading the player cannot use other players in the deal. They can of course have multiple players coming in.

Example being Raptors cant add more players to Lowry in the sign and trade but can have multiple players (Dragic, Precious, etc.).

[ontnut]

IF
A) The Raptors were actively shopping Siakam and
B) The 4 piece package was actually on the table
then we probably would've accepted that deal.
But I'm not sure that B) was on the table. I believe it was probably Wiggins, Wiseman and maybe one of the picks, probably 14. But Wiggins has improved his value, and GS seems to like him more now.

But now that we've drafted Barnes, I think management wants to see how the team performs with this weird but interesting 6'9" switchable set of players. If it sucks, we can still move Siakam, there will still be demand for him.