2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

Post #21 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:52 pm

arbsn wrote:I’d do Siakam + 2 (top 10 protected) FRP for Ayton + Filler (Crowder and Saric)

Ayton fills our biggest need and is one of the best blue chip prospects in the league.

That being said he’s getting a big payday (max?) next year

Siakam+Precious+FRP

for

Ayton+Crowder+Saric

Bruin · Post #22 » by **Bruin** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:04 am

If Ayton ends up staying, I’d love to go for Mo Bamba. He didn’t get an extension either so he should be attainable

JShuttlesworth · Post #23 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:32 am

Ayton is one of most intriguing players who could potentially be on the market, in my opinion. He not only fills a need, but also matches the timeline of the young core.

Anunoby (24) / Barnes (20) / Ayton (23). That would be a talented, young, high potential front court.

I would offer Siakam in a trade to get Ayton without thinking twice about it, and I'd sign Ayton to the contract that he wants.

tecumseh18 · Post #24 » by **tecumseh18** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:49 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Give me Poetl over Ayton at fraction the cost.

That makes no sense as Ayton is better than Jakob at everything basketball related

PER wise, Ayton (20.35 on 30 mpg) has an edge on Jak (17.5 on 26 mpg). Both shoot 61-62%, and neither has range. Ayton can make FTs at a 75% clip, Jak is at 50%. Jak blocks a few more shots.

Yes, I'd rather pay Poeltl 8 mill/yr than Ayton the max. Among Cs, only Embiid and Jokic deserve the max. If AD is a C, then him too.

PhilBlackson · Post #25 » by **PhilBlackson** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:01 am

PrinceAli wrote:If Ayton ends up staying, I’d love to go for Mo Bamba. He didn’t get an extension either so he should be attainable

I think he's a FAR more likely get than Ayton.

Perhaps the biggest part most seem to be missing is Sarver doesn't want to SPEND MONEY...Siakam doesn't fix that problem, likely won't be the better player by the end of their contract and just creates a new hole in the lineup.

The Magic on the other hand DID re-up on WC Jr and not Bamba and he'll be a fraction of the price with the Masai body prototype at C lol n he's just starting to show life that he could be an absolute steal relative to his cost and within our developmental system which will also help keep some cap for when Achiuwa needs to be retained. Sign me up for Bamba.

vanhill · Post #26 » by **vanhill** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:18 pm

masai..please make a move to get Giles.....

Post #27 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:10 pm

PrinceAli wrote:If Ayton ends up staying, I’d love to go for Mo Bamba. He didn’t get an extension either so he should be attainable

What am I missing with Bamba?

I get he was trapped behind Vuc for a while and WCJ coming in didn't exactly open up a ton of minutes for him, what are you seeing his upside as and what sort of contract do you see him commanding next summer?

Post #28 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:12 pm

Van_Trump wrote:https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-trade-rumors/nba-rumors-atlanta-hawks-could-acquire-pascal-siakam-for-5-players-and-two-picks

It seems 99% of the time, when they say "Trade Rumors" they mean "Speculation"

Well, at least it wasn't for OG this time.

Yikes;
I wonder which four players we waive to accommodate that inbound :lol:

Bruin · Post #29 » by **Bruin** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:23 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:If Ayton ends up staying, I’d love to go for Mo Bamba. He didn’t get an extension either so he should be attainable

What am I missing with Bamba?

I get he was trapped behind Vuc for a while and WCJ coming in didn't exactly open up a ton of minutes for him, what are you seeing his upside as and what sort of contract do you see him commanding next summer?

He looked real good in preseason. 11pts,7rebs, nearly 4 blocks in 20 minutes a game

He’s still just 23 and won’t be 24 until May. Physical freak of nature who seems primed for a break out year

Post #30 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:33 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:If Ayton ends up staying, I’d love to go for Mo Bamba. He didn’t get an extension either so he should be attainable

What am I missing with Bamba?

I get he was trapped behind Vuc for a while and WCJ coming in didn't exactly open up a ton of minutes for him, what are you seeing his upside as and what sort of contract do you see him commanding next summer?

He looked real good in preseason. 11pts,7rebs, nearly 4 blocks in 20 minutes a game

He’s still just 23 and won’t be 24 until May. Physical freak of nature who seems primed for a break out year

But is he 6' 9" ?

Spida888 · Post #31 » by **Spida888** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:43 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
What am I missing with Bamba?

I get he was trapped behind Vuc for a while and WCJ coming in didn't exactly open up a ton of minutes for him, what are you seeing his upside as and what sort of contract do you see him commanding next summer?

He looked real good in preseason. 11pts,7rebs, nearly 4 blocks in 20 minutes a game

He’s still just 23 and won’t be 24 until May. Physical freak of nature who seems primed for a break out year

But is he 6' 9" ?

No but his wingspan is 7'10"

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DreamTeam09 · Post #32 » by **DreamTeam09** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm

RapsFan008 wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:He looked real good in preseason. 11pts,7rebs, nearly 4 blocks in 20 minutes a game

He’s still just 23 and won’t be 24 until May. Physical freak of nature who seems primed for a break out year

But is he 6' 9" ?

No but his wingspan is 7'10" .

Is it really ?? That's craziness. We do need a 7footer that can actually stay on the floor for stretches. Mo Bamba would be a good get, I'd even give up a future first for him of we are competitive around the ASB.

C-R-E-A-M- · Post #33 » by **C-R-E-A-M-** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:09 am

buy low on bagley

Rapsfan07 · Post #34 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:04 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:buy low on bagley

I would

Post #35 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:42 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Give me Poetl over Ayton at fraction the cost.

I like Poetl's contract for what he potentially provides;
The issue is matching salary.

The deal likely ends up being based around Boucher for Poetl unless somehow a third team rolls in to use Dragic's contract.

Post #36 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:43 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:buy low on bagley

It depends on what "low" is but at this point why not?
He has a season to prove his worth more than his QO and if it doesn't work out you walk away or S&T him.

Matching salaries may prove challenging.

Post #37 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:13 pm

While we are tossing around "what ifs" regarding fives;
With the Peli's locking up Val today for another two seasons, I have to wonder what the plan is for Jaxson Hayes?

Rodrickle · Post #38 » by **Rodrickle** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:32 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Give me Poetl over Ayton at fraction the cost.

I like Poetl's contract for what he potentially provides;
The issue is matching salary.

The deal likely ends up being based around Boucher for Poetl unless somehow a third team rolls in to use Dragic's contract.

Boucher is a much better player than poetl,(although older). Much more impact on the game, especially offensively due to his gravity. Poetl still hasn't learned to shoot. I'd say Boucher's next contract will only be a couple mil more per yr more than Poetls too so don't see the point of trading for him. I think he is what he is offensively at this point

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billy_hoyle · Post #39 » by **billy_hoyle** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:33 pm

Mo Bamba is a UFA after this year right?

What's the Cap gonna be? Do we have cap space for him if there's a mini breakout?

HumbleRen · Post #40 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:43 pm

Rodrickle wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Give me Poetl over Ayton at fraction the cost.

I like Poetl's contract for what he potentially provides;
The issue is matching salary.

The deal likely ends up being based around Boucher for Poetl unless somehow a third team rolls in to use Dragic's contract.
Boucher is a much better player than poetl,(although older). Much more impact on the game, especially offensively due to his gravity. Poetl still hasn't learned to shoot. I'd say Boucher's next contract will only be a couple mil more per yr more than Poetls too so don't see the point of trading for him. I think he is what he is offensively at this point

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I just prefer what Poetl brings more. Top 5 center in protecting the rim is a valuable skill. Especially considering how weak we are at that department.