PG System and Usage Angst again
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One pass, open 3.
One screen, open 3.
One screen, open 3.
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I know it was garbage time but Scottie just looks more alive and more energetic when we give him the ball and let him try to break down the defense. He was getting to the rim and drawing fouls in the late fourth there when he didn't have to defer to the vets. Its really frustrating to see him get iced out by chuckers like Gary Trent JR.
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Barnes isn't going to get his touches playing alongside Pascal and FVV. Once OG is back, even less touches.
I never thought I'd say this but for the sake of Scottie's development, we need to move him to the bench so he can be our primary facilitator in our 2nd unit. We have enough of a sample size to see that Pascal and FVV have no intention to let Scottie playmake and just defer him to becoming a screener and dribble hand off man. A huge waste of his development time and potential.
We really saw Scottie's energy and confidence explode in the 2nd half, especially the 4th in garbage time where he was assertive. He looked lost on defense in the 1st half and became a passive floater on the offensive end. It was good to see that change in the 2nd half.
I never thought I'd say this but for the sake of Scottie's development, we need to move him to the bench so he can be our primary facilitator in our 2nd unit. We have enough of a sample size to see that Pascal and FVV have no intention to let Scottie playmake and just defer him to becoming a screener and dribble hand off man. A huge waste of his development time and potential.
We really saw Scottie's energy and confidence explode in the 2nd half, especially the 4th in garbage time where he was assertive. He looked lost on defense in the 1st half and became a passive floater on the offensive end. It was good to see that change in the 2nd half.
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Nurse's system is just garbage to watch at this point. Not sure what we are trying to achieve defensively or offensively. Same story every game both on defense and offense except for teams that struggles to shoot open 3s against us.
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This was the knock on him that David Thorpe alluded to
Was he going to be aggressive or back off and not realize he’s the best player On The team?
DelAbbot wrote:someone tell Barnes to be more aggressive - he has been playing so timid since Siakam came back.
This was the knock on him that David Thorpe alluded to
Was he going to be aggressive or back off and not realize he’s the best player On The team?
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DelAbbot wrote:someone tell Barnes to be more aggressive - he has been playing so timid since Siakam came back.
I don't even fault Pascal for any of this and if anyone is to be blamed it Nurse. He wants Barnes to shoot more and camp behind the arc

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Something to be said for efficiency and ball movement...
PushDaRock wrote:Seems like a broken record really but 20 more FG attempts than the Warriors and still lose by 15.
Something to be said for efficiency and ball movement...
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Fred. That's all.
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720 wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:Bright side... Barnes put up 10-13-5-2stls in a bad game. This kid is going to be special once he figures it out!
Once we make him the first option.
He doesn't even need to be the first option, just make him a damn option. Especially when he's got so many smaller guys guarding him in the post.
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Against competent defenses you can kind of see our offense exposed as really one dimensional and the opposite of dynamic. On the other end, just like Ingles did last week Draymond had a field day shifting around our over reactive defense. Shutting Curry down is cool but what's the point when the other team get's really good looks. If they don't figure some things out this team will be firmly in the lottery again.
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Not even mad. Gets us one loss closer to a good pick next year. This core needs more young talent.

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EFF3KT wrote:Barnes isn't going to get his touches playing alongside Pascal and FVV. Once OG is back, even less touches.
I never thought I'd say this but for the sake of Scottie's development, we need to move him to the bench so he can be our primary facilitator in our 2nd unit. We have enough of a sample size to see that Pascal and FVV have no intention to let Scottie playmake and just defer him to becoming a screener and dribble hand off man. A huge waste of his development time and potential.
We really saw Scottie's energy and confidence explode in the 2nd half, especially the 4th in garbage time where he was assertive. He looked lost on defense in the 1st half and became a passive floater on the offensive end. It was good to see that change in the 2nd half.
Don't forget Trent. This systemxand chemistry is atrocious.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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will wrote:When does Nicky speed up Senior playing off the ball with the rock in Scottie's hands more often?
when senior allows it, its possible is we keep getting smacked but im not holding my breathe. dudes been waiting for the keys i dont think he gives them up
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Predictable L, nothing to see here.
Side Note #1 - Let Scottie bring the ball up when the game matters, not just as the end of the game. It's so frustrating to watch
Side Note #2 - The fact that we're 8-10 this year and were 7-11 at this time last year says something
Side Note #1 - Let Scottie bring the ball up when the game matters, not just as the end of the game. It's so frustrating to watch
Side Note #2 - The fact that we're 8-10 this year and were 7-11 at this time last year says something
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Poole and Wiggins pushed the Raps wig back.
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normgod6 wrote:I know it was garbage time but Scottie just looks more alive and more energetic when we give him the ball and let him try to break down the defense. He was getting to the rim and drawing fouls in the late fourth there when he didn't have to defer to the vets. Its really frustrating to see him get iced out by chuckers like Gary Trent JR.
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Duffman100 wrote:One pass, open 3.
One screen, open 3.
I can't get over how bad our defense is right now. Nurse needs to switch up our defensive game plan and end the pointless double teams. We double teamed Draymond a few times at the 3 point line ffs.
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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:tWo babyyyy. We goin for that top 10 pick
We can beat the grizzlies and Pacers.
Grizzlies just got pounded by 43 against the Timberwolves and the Pacers are pretty bad. I could see us being 500 before the Boston game.
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Boogie! wrote:EFF3KT wrote:Barnes isn't going to get his touches playing alongside Pascal and FVV. Once OG is back, even less touches.
I never thought I'd say this but for the sake of Scottie's development, we need to move him to the bench so he can be our primary facilitator in our 2nd unit. We have enough of a sample size to see that Pascal and FVV have no intention to let Scottie playmake and just defer him to becoming a screener and dribble hand off man. A huge waste of his development time and potential.
We really saw Scottie's energy and confidence explode in the 2nd half, especially the 4th in garbage time where he was assertive. He looked lost on defense in the 1st half and became a passive floater on the offensive end. It was good to see that change in the 2nd half.
Don't forget Trent. This systemxand chemistry is atrocious.
Gary Trent Jr might be my least favourite player on the team. He just plays such an annoying brand of basketball. He's only able to look for his own shot. He's made like 3 swing passes the entire season. He is either unable or unwilling to playmake for others. He's the type of player you would absolutely hate playing with. All me and no we.
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Why do ppl want Barnes to shoot more. His iso numbers aren’t even that good.
It’s more realgm wanting him to get raw stats at this point for ROY
It’s more realgm wanting him to get raw stats at this point for ROY














