Official Scottie Barnes Thread 3

[hype_2004]

People say that Scotty is this happy go lucky dude. Am I the only one who thinks he's actually pretty arrogant and cocky... and like it?

Scottie has some nastiness in him, he might be smiling but he's there to kill, the smiling assassin.

[Dalek]

Scottie is very deserving but he hasn't had a recent signature game where he took over. He has mostly been quiet but still he is at 1000 points and 500 rebounds in the class which is great.

This rookie class is so fun as we have seen a lot of the rookies explode towards the end of the season.

Cade is dangerous when he plays - 22.5 ppg in March/47% on 19 shots per game.

Out of nowhere Jalen Green is averaging almost 17 PPG and really looking like a top pick with every 20 point game he has. Reminds me of Latrell Sprewell as the athletic 2 guard who can do it all.

Franz Wagner has had a great season shooting the ball from deep: 96 made threes on 37% bodes well for his future considering he was never as impactful in college.

Davion Mitchell is now dropping 20 PPG as a starting PG in Sacramento and looking like a Spida Mitchell clone at times.

Tre Mann and Bones Hyland are going to be an elite scorers in the NBA at least as a six man candidates. Both have elite separation skills that you can't teach.

[Joker]

With the playoffs coming up, I've had this in mind

Some players, they are great during the regular season. They bring it every night, contribute to wins, and put up numbers

Some players have another gear in the playoffs. When the lights get brighter, they elevate their game and are true playoff performers that can sway games and be the X factor in a series

Will Scottie be that type of player? does he have a "playoff" gear we haven't seen yet? I'm so excited to find out. we all know he's special, but how quickly will we see it on the biggest of stages?

Younger players who are developing their shot probably don't shoot better with the added intensity and pressure of the playoffs. But on the other hand, Scottie's a big player who plays with physicality, so the playoffs should suit his style of play in some respects.

[Vampirate]

Watch on YouTube

Great video on scottie's strengths and weaknesses. Somethings will improve with time (defensive awareness, the no-look stuff) but shooting is going to be the key to his success.

Barnes shooting this season looks unimpressive but compare it to his college stats.

Season

73.8% FT
30.1% 3P

College

62.1%FT
27.5% 3P


But in all honesty, the one thing that sticks out the most about Barnes scoring is this.

In 32.6% of all the shots Barnes takes, which I might add are not actually at the rim, Barnes shoots at the efficiency of KD from that range.

[DreamTeam09]

Watch on YouTube

Great video on scottie's strengths and weaknesses. Somethings will improve with time (defensive awareness, the no-look stuff) but shooting is going to be the key to his success.

Barnes shooting this season looks unimpressive but compare it to his college stats.

Season

73.8% FT
30.1% 3P

College

62.1%FT
27.5% 3P


But in all honesty, the one thing that sticks out the most about Barnes scoring is this.

In 32.6% of all the shots Barnes takes, which I might add are not actually at the rim, Barnes shoots at the efficiency of KD from that range.

5% improvement in both FT% n 3pt% brings him to another level. 78% from the line and 35% from 3 makes him a complete player

[Jadoogar]

Watch on YouTube

Great video on scottie's strengths and weaknesses. Somethings will improve with time (defensive awareness, the no-look stuff) but shooting is going to be the key to his success.

Barnes shooting this season looks unimpressive but compare it to his college stats.

Season

73.8% FT
30.1% 3P

College

62.1%FT
27.5% 3P


But in all honesty, the one thing that sticks out the most about Barnes scoring is this.

In 32.6% of all the shots Barnes takes, which I might add are not actually at the rim, Barnes shoots at the efficiency of KD from that range.

yes he is really good from floater range, he loves his push shots (dinkers and dumpers in the words of the No Dunks podcast).

[brownbobcat]

yes he is really good from floater range, he loves his push shots (dinkers and dumpers in the words of the No Dunks podcast).

With his strength and size, it's such an unstoppable shot when he can't get all the way to the rim. When he cleans up the footwork and starts creating that shot cleanly out of a post-up? Or starts to orchestrate the offense from there? Game over.

[Bruin]

Scottie is very deserving but he hasn't had a recent signature game where he took over. He has mostly been quiet but still he is at 1000 points and 500 rebounds in the class which is great.

This rookie class is so fun as we have seen a lot of the rookies explode towards the end of the season.

Cade is dangerous when he plays - 22.5 ppg in March/47% on 19 shots per game.

Out of nowhere Jalen Green is averaging almost 17 PPG and really looking like a top pick with every 20 point game he has. Reminds me of Latrell Sprewell as the athletic 2 guard who can do it all.

Franz Wagner has had a great season shooting the ball from deep: 96 made threes on 37% bodes well for his future considering he was never as impactful in college.

Davion Mitchell is now dropping 20 PPG as a starting PG in Sacramento and looking like a Spida Mitchell clone at times.

Tre Mann and Bones Hyland are going to be an elite scorers in the NBA at least as a six man candidates. Both have elite separation skills that you can't teach.

31 points (14/21 FG), 17 rebounds, 6 assists in a matchup against Lebron isn’t a signature game? I’d say that’s the single most impressive performance by a rookie this season

[WuTang_CMB]

If Scottie was playing on any of the american nba teams, he would have been given the award back in january

[links135]

Scottie is very deserving but he hasn't had a recent signature game where he took over. He has mostly been quiet but still he is at 1000 points and 500 rebounds in the class which is great.

This rookie class is so fun as we have seen a lot of the rookies explode towards the end of the season.

Cade is dangerous when he plays - 22.5 ppg in March/47% on 19 shots per game.

Out of nowhere Jalen Green is averaging almost 17 PPG and really looking like a top pick with every 20 point game he has. Reminds me of Latrell Sprewell as the athletic 2 guard who can do it all.

Franz Wagner has had a great season shooting the ball from deep: 96 made threes on 37% bodes well for his future considering he was never as impactful in college.

Davion Mitchell is now dropping 20 PPG as a starting PG in Sacramento and looking like a Spida Mitchell clone at times.

Tre Mann and Bones Hyland are going to be an elite scorers in the NBA at least as a six man candidates. Both have elite separation skills that you can't teach.

Def Denver. 2nd night of back to back, playing point gaurd, 2 rebounds from a triple double and helping make sure Jokic doesn't even get a shot in the 4th.

At the same time, I can't really think of a game Mobley took over, and that won't hurt him.

[Young_Buc]

If Scottie was playing on any of the american nba teams, he would have been given the award back in january

You think? Mobley WAS more impressive than SB for a good chunk of the year...

Plus we do have 2 previous ROYs (VC won it over PP and white chocolate and Damon won it over Jerry "next Jordan" Stackhouse)
we also have 3 COYs and 2 EOYs.

Quite the awards case compared to say the Memphis grizzlies (or similar, I don't keep up with them)

[HumbleRen]

With the playoffs coming up, I've had this in mind

Some players, they are great during the regular season. They bring it every night, contribute to wins, and put up numbers

Some players have another gear in the playoffs. When the lights get brighter, they elevate their game and are true playoff performers that can sway games and be the X factor in a series

Will Scottie be that type of player? does he have a "playoff" gear we haven't seen yet? I'm so excited to find out. we all know he's special, but how quickly will we see it on the biggest of stages?

I hope he replicates that Jayson Tatum run he had in the playoffs in his rookie year.

[NBA Sheady]

If Scottie Barnes weren't the rookie of the year, why would he need three full threads?

FACTS

[Marmoset]

With the playoffs coming up, I've had this in mind

Some players, they are great during the regular season. They bring it every night, contribute to wins, and put up numbers

Some players have another gear in the playoffs. When the lights get brighter, they elevate their game and are true playoff performers that can sway games and be the X factor in a series

Will Scottie be that type of player? does he have a "playoff" gear we haven't seen yet? I'm so excited to find out. we all know he's special, but how quickly will we see it on the biggest of stages?

If he doesn't perform as well as we hope in the playoffs that shouldn't be taken as a definitive answer to those questions. Most 20-year-old top rookies don't get the chance to perform in the playoffs because their teams are competing for ping pong balls.

The fact he is not one of the primary offensive options on the team may be a good thing as he won't face the level of pressure that will be on SIakam and FVV. Which is how it should be, he's the rookie player and they're the guys with championship experience.

[whitehops]

Will Scottie be that type of player? does he have a "playoff" gear we haven't seen yet? I'm so excited to find out. we all know he's special, but how quickly will we see it on the biggest of stages?

i think he'll thrive in these playoffs. siakam, FVV and GTJ should get the vast majority of the defensive attention so barnes should be able to feast on dump offs/put backs in the paint.

[Reeko]

Will Scottie be that type of player? does he have a "playoff" gear we haven't seen yet? I'm so excited to find out. we all know he's special, but how quickly will we see it on the biggest of stages?

i think he'll thrive in these playoffs. siakam, FVV and GTJ should get the vast majority of the defensive attention so barnes should be able to feast on dump offs/put backs in the paint.

Aaahhh! It’s a Cade supporter! Bombard him with Scottie propaganda until he concedes defeat.

[Clay Davis]

Will Scottie be that type of player? does he have a "playoff" gear we haven't seen yet? I'm so excited to find out. we all know he's special, but how quickly will we see it on the biggest of stages?

i think he'll thrive in these playoffs. siakam, FVV and GTJ should get the vast majority of the defensive attention so barnes should be able to feast on dump offs/put backs in the paint.

Aaahhh! It’s a Cade supporter! Bombard him with Scottie propaganda until he concedes defeat.

[OakleyDokely]

Cade's FG% by month:

OCT (1 GMS): 12.5%
NOV (15 GMS): 36.9%
DEC (9 GMS): 41.8%
JAN (15 GMS): 42.0%
FEB (7 GMS): 39.1%
MAR (14 GMS): 48.0%
APR (1 GM): 25.0%

This late push for Cade is crazy to me. You can't have a good month or two and that's enough to overtake two guys who've been consistently good all year.

[HumbleRen]

Cade's FG% by month:

OCT (1 GMS): 12.5%
NOV (15 GMS): 36.9%
DEC (9 GMS): 41.8%
JAN (15 GMS): 42.0%
FEB (7 GMS): 39.1%
MAR (14 GMS): 48.0%
APR (1 GM): 25.0%

This late push for Cade is crazy to me. You can't have a good month or two and that's enough to overtake two guys who've been consistently good all year.

He has the raw numbers and is the first option on his team, those matter in a ROTY race, he's also been the best rookie in the 2 months (IMO) that helps a lot too.

Having the highest usage of any rookie by far and if he did win, he would be the ROTY with the worst efficiency since Emeka Okafor in 2004-2005 so that's pretty tough lol.

I can see both sides as to why he should win it or not. Ultimately with a race this close, I think you reward consistency so Mobley or Barnes will most likely win it but they're all deserving imo.

[Madhouse]

Watch on YouTube

Great video on scottie's strengths and weaknesses. Somethings will improve with time (defensive awareness, the no-look stuff) but shooting is going to be the key to his success.

Barnes shooting this season looks unimpressive but compare it to his college stats.

Season

73.8% FT
30.1% 3P

College

62.1%FT
27.5% 3P


But in all honesty, the one thing that sticks out the most about Barnes scoring is this.

In 32.6% of all the shots Barnes takes, which I might add are not actually at the rim, Barnes shoots at the efficiency of KD from that range.

70/50 splits inside 10 feet are ridiculous. I would love to know if any other rookie has ever done this. Because you either are big and covert similarly at the rim but are much worse beyond that or vice versa.