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Post#21 » by Psubs » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:07 am

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If we renounce our FAs and don't tender a QO to Lewis, we could go big game hunting and sign that all-NBA free agent in Indiana!


I got my eye on that 3 and D guy in New York who would look good with Barnes lol

Think there's a rule against signing them directly as I think you have to wait a full calendar year, but maybe via sign and trade it could be done?

Not suggesting it will be done, was just wondering on what the rules are.


That's why you trade Pascal during last year's draft. Maybe Indiana trades #8, Hield and Jalen Smith and two 1st picks.

Should've traded FVV during the 2022 draft.
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Post#22 » by SharoneWright » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:15 am

The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?
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Post#23 » by HKBOY » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:19 am

SharoneWright wrote:The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?


Yak is a starting calibre C who is on a decent contract and he is only 28, he is definitely movable. Teams like Boston and OKC would want him.
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Post#24 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:20 am

We should be able to use our tpe this year to take on some contracts since we are about 10M under lax. Need to open up roster spots though.
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Post#25 » by LarSiN » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:21 am

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artsncrafts wrote:Is Brown at $23M a good deal next year? or is it better to just trade now.

Brown , shroeder, GTJ, Poetl, Boucher All need to be shipped away for picks.

Securing our top 6 pick this year is vital.


We won't. Even if we finish bottom 6, it's only a 50% chance we get a top 6 pick. It's not happening, just convey it.
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Post#26 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:24 am

LarSiN wrote:
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artsncrafts wrote:Is Brown at $23M a good deal next year? or is it better to just trade now.

Brown , shroeder, GTJ, Poetl, Boucher All need to be shipped away for picks.

Securing our top 6 pick this year is vital.


We won't. Even if we finish bottom 6, it's only a 50% chance we get a top 6 pick. It's not happening, just convey it.

It’s incredibly tough to out tank the teams below us.
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Post#27 » by Psubs » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:25 am

SharoneWright wrote:The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?


A team that wants to let Chet or Wemby play PF, not C.
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Post#28 » by Statistician MK » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:21 pm

What will happen if Raptors decide just to waive Kira Lewis after this season?
Anyone knows how the qualifying offers work?

For 2024/25 his contract says $7,913,686 (Qualifying offer)!
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Post#29 » by Shakril » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:23 pm

KL78192020 wrote:Time to move on from Yak and Dennis as well. Go full rebuild. Give Porter 30mpg and see what he does, let Gradey play and keep our pick. Trade the expiring's for bad contracts/picks.


Yes i agree. Yak was brought in to compete as was schroeder, it is clear now that we are retooling. Yak at least is only 27, maybe he still fits the timeline.
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Post#30 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:24 pm

Statistician MK wrote:What will happen if Raptors decide just to waive Kira Lewis after this season?
Anyone knows how the qualifying offers work?

For 2024/25 his contract says $7,913,686 (Qualifying offer)!


if you don't extend the QO, the player becomes a free agent which is what will most likely happen here. then if we want to re-sign him at a lower cost, we'd have to use cap space to do it.
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Post#31 » by Shakril » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:24 pm

SharoneWright wrote:The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?


There were many suitors for Yak last time, they will be this time. His contract is cheap, and worth a lot. And there enough teams that need rim protection.
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Post#32 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:25 pm

why trade yak? he's on a good contract and is good. we have no other centers on the roster and not having one hurts development, not help it.
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Post#33 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:27 pm

KL78192020 wrote:Time to move on from Yak and Dennis as well. Go full rebuild. Give Porter 30mpg and see what he does, let Gradey play and keep our pick. Trade the expiring's for bad contracts/picks.


And Brown, Trent and Porter ideally for picks and dead salary/expiring salary. Or you have to add GTJ cap hold. But it remains to be seen if they are willing to operate below the cap. There are not a lot of avenues to use that cap space this summer though.

Do not care one way or the other if we keep that pick or transfer it now.
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Post#34 » by StopitLeo » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:40 pm

Merit wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
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I got my eye on that 3 and D guy in New York who would look good with Barnes lol

Think there's a rule against signing them directly as I think you have to wait a full calendar year, but maybe via sign and trade it could be done?

Not suggesting it will be done, was just wondering on what the rules are.


Not sure what the rules on this are either. Consider me curious.


I believe it would be permitted but it is extremely unlikely.

From Larry Coon’s cbafaq:

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first6. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.
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Post#35 » by Statistician MK » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:45 pm

djsunyc wrote:if you don't extend the QO, the player becomes a free agent which is what will most likely happen here. then if we want to re-sign him at a lower cost, we'd have to use cap space to do it.

So, no penalties for the team for not extending the qualifing offer?
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Post#36 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:51 pm

Statistician MK wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if you don't extend the QO, the player becomes a free agent which is what will most likely happen here. then if we want to re-sign him at a lower cost, we'd have to use cap space to do it.

So, no penalties for the team for not extending the qualifing offer?


i don't believe so. it only matters if you're over the cap team - which means if you don't extend the QO then you can only sign them as a free agent which means you'd have to use the MLE. but the player can go anywhere they want in that case. as an under the cap team, you'd use your cap space.
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Post#37 » by Yallbecrazy » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:32 pm

StopitLeo wrote:
Merit wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:Think there's a rule against signing them directly as I think you have to wait a full calendar year, but maybe via sign and trade it could be done?

Not suggesting it will be done, was just wondering on what the rules are.


Not sure what the rules on this are either. Consider me curious.


I believe it would be permitted but it is extremely unlikely.

From Larry Coon’s cbafaq:

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first6. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.


Derrick Favors did it recently, the trade happened prior to the season and then he re-signed with the Jazz so I do think we could sign OG again.
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Post#38 » by StopitLeo » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:40 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
Merit wrote:
Not sure what the rules on this are either. Consider me curious.


I believe it would be permitted but it is extremely unlikely.

From Larry Coon’s cbafaq:

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first6. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.


Derrick Favors did it recently, the trade happened prior to the season and then he re-signed with the Jazz so I do think we could sign OG again.


Given his agent’s blood connection to the Knicks front office I think it almost guaranteed he stays in New York.
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Post#39 » by earth007 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:04 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:
sidsid wrote:The OG offseason play is an interesting one and something only the FO would know the chances on based on their discussions. We know the FO loves him and who knows how he'll like his fit in NY after a playoff run.

If we do actually keep cap space open post deadline (the FO has consistently pushed against this since losing out on Giannis), there should be some definite side eyes going on.


I can’t remember a player ever being traded and then immediately resigning with the team that traded him. He already has an agreement in place with the Knicks, otherwise they wouldn’t have made the trade.


Plus, if that ever happened, Leon Rose would disown his own son. lol
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Post#40 » by bartron_44 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:06 pm

It was mentioned on the will lou show yestery that technically they could try to sign him in the summer.

But they cant offer the most anymore. So unless he really just wants to be back in Toronto instead of playing with Haliburton, Hield and Turner. Not to mention they could play him at the 3 and also play Toppin. Not to mention 3pt shooters like Nesmith and Smith coming off the bench. He is now surrounded by shooting… including a floor spacing and rim protecting big.

The Pacers are going to be dangerous at full strength. If they offer the max it would probably be a tough situation to turn down. They are gonna score like 150 ppg lol

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