2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[bballsparkin]

We should consider keeping Mitchell on a cheap contract. He brings defense and will push guys in practice where we need him the most. This should make IQ, Barrett, and the rest of our guards better.

Olynyk and Brown will be shopped and sold for anything we can get which will likely be 2nd round picks and expiring contracts. If the contract length for the returned player isn't an expiring and they have little to no value I hope we get a 1st rounder.

Mitchell should definitely be on the table for the right place. I would take a nice 2nd. If not, and the contract is very reasonable then sure, keep him.

[Wise80]

We should consider keeping Mitchell on a cheap contract. He brings defense and will push guys in practice where we need him the most. This should make IQ, Barrett, and the rest of our guards better.

Olynyk and Brown will be shopped and sold for anything we can get which will likely be 2nd round picks and expiring contracts. If the contract length for the returned player isn't an expiring and they have little to no value I hope we get a 1st rounder.

Mitchell should definitely be on the table for the right place. I would take a nice 2nd. If not, and the contract is very reasonable then sure, keep him.

Mitchell can't even get off the bench for one of the worst teams in the league. Last year, once the Kings were good. He was outplayed and lost his rotation spot. I don't think anyone is giving up a 2nd round pick, yet alone a nice one.

There will be lots of veterans that will be given up for crappy 2nds and that's what good teams will go with.

We're dreaming if we think someone is going to give up 2nds for Mitchell and Kelly. Only way that's happening is with long term money coming along with it.

[Van_Trump]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Raptors trade Bruce Brown to Detroit for Simone Fontecchio, Wendell Moore Jr. and 2025 Raptors second round pick.

Raptors trade Davion Mitchell to Orlando for Gary Harris, Boston’s 2025 second and Orlando’s 2026 second

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

Houston might make more sense for Poeltl (with Mitchell also going for Cam Whitmore, Brooklyn’s 2027 first and Steven Adams and Jeff Green to make the money work).

[UnbelievablyRAW]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Raptors trade Bruce Brown to Detroit for Simone Fontecchio, Wendell Moore Jr. and 2025 Raptors second round pick.

Raptors trade Davion Mitchell to Orlando for Gary Harris, Boston’s 2025 second and Orlando’s 2026 second

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

Houston might make more sense for Poeltl (with Mitchell also going for Cam Whitmore, Brooklyn’s 2027 first and Steven Adams and Jeff Green to make the money work).

First 3 are probably no’s from the other side. Maybe the Detroit one can happen. The Chicago one makes no sense unless we trade Barrett for a wing. Even then I don’t like a IQ and Zach back court

I still like Cam but I don’t think he’s who we need in our locker room given how bad things are going. I think he’s also a guy that’s trying to showcase himself given how his time in Houston went.

[Raptorfan2012]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Raptors trade Bruce Brown to Detroit for Simone Fontecchio, Wendell Moore Jr. and 2025 Raptors second round pick.

Raptors trade Davion Mitchell to Orlando for Gary Harris, Boston’s 2025 second and Orlando’s 2026 second

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

Houston might make more sense for Poeltl (with Mitchell also going for Cam Whitmore, Brooklyn’s 2027 first and Steven Adams and Jeff Green to make the money work).

LOL @ Wolstat. Maybe the Brown to Detroit trade, but I don't see any of these happening. Why would the Magic trade two picks for Davion Mitchell LMAO. I don't think Chicago is THAT interested in getting rid of LaVine for scrap, and I don't think the Raptors want LaVine's salary without getting rid of RJ Barrett. I also don't think the Raptors are interested in paying Kuminga's salary demands.

[CazOnReal]

Bleacher Reports shot in the dark Bruce Brown Trade:

To Spurs
Bruce Brown

To Raps
Zach Collins
Malaki Branham
Sidy Cissoko
2025 (Lotto Protected) FRP from CHO (Will likely convey to 2x SRPs)

This...feels like an overpay for Bruce. I know Collins contract isn't good but it isn't this bad, right?

Also that Bulls pick is a lot better than it looks. Top 10 now but the protections go down to 6 if I recall so it had a very good chance of conveying a lottery pick to us.

It stops sounding like an overpay when you factor in its the Cats pick which will almost certainly end up being 2x SRPs.

I don't hate it;
Collins just becomes another expiring next season to park beside Olynik if he isn't moved;
We get a flyer on Malaki Branham who has been fairly unspectacular in 2.5 seasons but is shooting near 40% from three this year and is still just 21 and you get a pair of SRPs, not great, not terrible.

Whereas the Spurs get a guy they want and likely keep in the off-season at a lower salary but for more years.

they suggested the charlotte protected pick, its lotto protected this year then its 2 seconds
plus malaki branham is the player spurs took with the raptors pick in the thad young trade

Okay the Charlotte pick makes a lot more sense than Chicago (Who abbreviates Charlotte as CHO, it's typically CHA). I do like this trade but I have a hard time believe the Spurs would give up on Cissoko so soon.

[MiamiSPX]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Raptors trade Bruce Brown to Detroit for Simone Fontecchio, Wendell Moore Jr. and 2025 Raptors second round pick.

Raptors trade Davion Mitchell to Orlando for Gary Harris, Boston’s 2025 second and Orlando’s 2026 second

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

Houston might make more sense for Poeltl (with Mitchell also going for Cam Whitmore, Brooklyn’s 2027 first and Steven Adams and Jeff Green to make the money work).

LOL @ Wolstat. Maybe the Brown to Detroit trade, but I don't see any of these happening. Why would the Magic trade two picks for Davion Mitchell LMAO. I don't think Chicago is THAT interested in getting rid of LaVine for scrap, and I don't think the Raptors want LaVine's salary without getting rid of RJ Barrett. I also don't think the Raptors are interested in paying Kuminga's salary demands.

I would make the first 2 but doubt those teams would.
Want no part of LaVine.
I know Masai was high on Kuminga pre-draft but not sure he wants to acquire him and then pay him.
I'd probably do the last one.

[Morris_Shatford]

Okay the Charlotte pick makes a lot more sense than Chicago (Who abbreviates Charlotte as CHO, it's typically CHA). I do like this trade but I have a hard time believe the Spurs would give up on Cissoko so soon.

Bleacher Report was the first time I had ever seen the CHO as well;

As for Cissoko,
The deal still works without including his 1.9m -
Its also more logical for Toronto to not include him as we would need to waive someone to make it work (In addition to the spot Bruno created)

[Morris_Shatford]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

First off,
Moving Battle is a non-starter!!!!!!

But just a question in general for the masses regarding Kuminga,
Do we want to be the team that is paying him around 30-35m+ for the next four seasons or so?

[LoveMyRaps]

Please fire Wolstat for this nonsense

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips.

[artsncrafts]

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Why would the Raptors want Lavine? I would rather just keep Dick

[JRoy]

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Why would the Raptors want Lavine? I would rather just keep Dick

It seems you prefer Dick then.

[Raptorfan2012]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

First off,
Moving Battle is a non-starter!!!!!!

But just a question in general for the masses regarding Kuminga,
Do we want to be the team that is paying him around 30-35m+ for the next four seasons or so?

I feel like any trade involving young guys who are getting or asking for $30M+ a season means RJ is going out the other way. Now, would we rather pay RJ his current salary or flip him for someone like Kuminga?

[Spida888]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Raptors trade Bruce Brown to Detroit for Simone Fontecchio, Wendell Moore Jr. and 2025 Raptors second round pick.

Raptors trade Davion Mitchell to Orlando for Gary Harris, Boston’s 2025 second and Orlando’s 2026 second

Toronto trades Gradey Dick, Brown, Kelly Olynyk and Mitchell to Chicago for Zach LaVine, Talen Horton-Tucker and Julian Philips

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

Houston might make more sense for Poeltl (with Mitchell also going for Cam Whitmore, Brooklyn’s 2027 first and Steven Adams and Jeff Green to make the money work).

Yes to trade 1 with DET. The Raps SRP will be close to a late FRP. Gives us another shot to pick a good prospect in a good draft or can possibly use that along with the POR pick to move into the first round.

Probably yes to trade 4 with GSW even though I think the FRP would have better protections. The main prize would be a lightly protected FRP in a post-Curry era. I liked Kuminga during the draft but his feel for the game hasn't improved a lot. I don't see the FO paying him big money which puts us into the tax unless maybe RJ is re-routed, or we find a 3rd team that takes Kuminga while giving us back assets.

GSW probably goes after Vuc and Ayo from CHI instead. A lesser deal might involve Olynyk.

[Morris_Shatford]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

First off,
Moving Battle is a non-starter!!!!!!

But just a question in general for the masses regarding Kuminga,
Do we want to be the team that is paying him around 30-35m+ for the next four seasons or so?

I feel like any trade involving young guys who are getting or asking for $30M+ a season means RJ is going out the other way. Now, would we rather pay RJ his current salary or flip him for someone like Kuminga?

This will become a post that will haunt me if Kuminga becomes a star on his next team;
But if his next deal is going to pay him lets say 30-40m over the course of four seasons, I think I would much rather have RJ making between 25m to 29m over the course this season and the balance of his contract.

I just don't think Kuminga away from the Warriors with more attention from defenses suddenly becomes more more than he is.

[Zeno]

I would actually be interested in Kuminga if it weren’t for Shawn Marks crazy offer sheet history being out there. You don’t trade for him unless you are willing to match a max offer sheet in my opinion.

[MiamiSPX]

https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/five-trade-ideas-for-the-raptors-as-nba-deal-season-approaches

Toronto trades Poeltl, Mitchell, Jamison Battle to Golden State for Jonathan Kuminga, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton II, Gui Santos, 2028 Golden State first (Top 3 protected)

First off,
Moving Battle is a non-starter!!!!!!

But just a question in general for the masses regarding Kuminga,
Do we want to be the team that is paying him around 30-35m+ for the next four seasons or so?

I feel like any trade involving young guys who are getting or asking for $30M+ a season means RJ is going out the other way. Now, would we rather pay RJ his current salary or flip him for someone like Kuminga?

Pretty much this. Any trade bringing in a 30m+ player will have to involve moving one of BBQ. There is no other way. Thee is no world where Masai gets approval to go into the tax coming off a 22-win season (my estimate). With the new apron rules, we as fans shouldn't want that either, until we are knocking on the door. Right now we are still in the dark, dingy basement and don't even know where the door is......

[Zeno]

First off,
Moving Battle is a non-starter!!!!!!

But just a question in general for the masses regarding Kuminga,
Do we want to be the team that is paying him around 30-35m+ for the next four seasons or so?

I feel like any trade involving young guys who are getting or asking for $30M+ a season means RJ is going out the other way. Now, would we rather pay RJ his current salary or flip him for someone like Kuminga?

Pretty much this. Any trade bringing in a 30m+ player will have to involve moving one of BBQ. There is no other way. Thee is no world where Masai gets approval to go into the tax coming off a 22-win season (my estimate). With the new apron rules, we as fans shouldn't want that either, until we are knocking on the door. Right now we are still in the dark, dingy basement and don't even know where the door is......

I agree with you to a large extent though technically you could move off both Jak, and Kelly and be basically salary neutral for next season if you added a 30+ million dollar player. But these trades for guys you have to pay soon instead of draft capital aren’t often the greatest idea.

[Mr Swagtastic]

These rumors are why I hate fake writers to sum it up its suggesting Toronto moves Gradey Dick plus IQ, picks plus anything minus Scottie for Luka Doncic I mean are they stupid? Luka isn't going anywhere he's probably the most untouchable player next to Wemby.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/dallas-mavericks/news/raptors-could-trade-gradey-dick-unexpected-blockbuster-mavs-215-million-superstar/bec29d21b36a5f65ea27ece1

[Morris_Shatford]

These rumors are why I hate fake writers to sum it up its suggesting Toronto moves Gradey Dick plus IQ, picks plus anything minus Scottie for Luka Doncic I mean are they stupid? Luka isn't going anywhere he's probably the most untouchable player next to Wemby.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/dallas-mavericks/news/raptors-could-trade-gradey-dick-unexpected-blockbuster-mavs-215-million-superstar/bec29d21b36a5f65ea27ece1

Well...
I mean if we are getting Luka, I guess I could be convinced to include Gradey.