NBA Win Totals (Raptors at 34.5)
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Clutch0z24 wrote:We have a injury risk roster....So there are reasons to believe we under achieve again next season.....Even Barnes hasn't been the healthiest since his rookie season.....We are a Yak/Ingram injury away from having really bad few weeks without them to be back in the tanking ranges....
With a healthy and all things go well season....We will prolly be in that 40-44 win range....But its a big if with the injury history of a few guys....
barnes played 65, rj 58, jakob 57, quickley 33, ingram 0, dick 54, etcetc
and we still won 30 games. remember all those ethical tanking losses, imagine just filliping half of them gets us past the line.
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Zeno wrote:I don't gamble but it always struck me as stupid that people bet on over/unders for 8 months down the line and just hand their money over interest free for that period. Anyway easy over.
In theory, if it's a "no-brainer" bet, 8 months to bring back a 90% return is better than any interest you're getting on any investment.
Of course there's the chance of zero-ing out, but using "interest-free" isn't the right argument in this case against this bet imo.

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I’m fairly low on this team, but this number has me thinking about making an account somewhere to smash the over.
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Even without BI, I think they can get over that.

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The Pelicans traded their unprotected 1st to move up 10 spots and have the 4th worst win total odds going into the season. The Dumars special.
That the Raptors didn’t pounce on that is negligence and the norm of late.
That the Raptors didn’t pounce on that is negligence and the norm of late.

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The East was already weak and just got weaker with Boston and Indiana losing their best players.
Given that we added a star caliber player in Ingram, Quickley hopefully will be healthy, and we added a likely decent bench big in CMB, and at least one of our young guys should improve...I'd be shocked if we didn't win at least 40 and weren't competing for a top 8 seed.
Given that we added a star caliber player in Ingram, Quickley hopefully will be healthy, and we added a likely decent bench big in CMB, and at least one of our young guys should improve...I'd be shocked if we didn't win at least 40 and weren't competing for a top 8 seed.
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ontnut wrote:Zeno wrote:I don't gamble but it always struck me as stupid that people bet on over/unders for 8 months down the line and just hand their money over interest free for that period. Anyway easy over.
In theory, if it's a "no-brainer" bet, 8 months to bring back a 90% return is better than any interest you're getting on any investment.
Of course there's the chance of zero-ing out, but using "interest-free" isn't the right argument in this case against this bet imo.
In theory, you may think your bets are 90%ers but you know that isn’t reality so even if you are a very good gambler you are dealing with small margins. If you really believed in the Raptors going over and that the betting market way undervalued them, you would be way better of this betting them in individual games early in the season and getting an immediate return. But again I don’t gamble so I am probably missing something.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
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douggood wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:We have a injury risk roster....So there are reasons to believe we under achieve again next season.....Even Barnes hasn't been the healthiest since his rookie season.....We are a Yak/Ingram injury away from having really bad few weeks without them to be back in the tanking ranges....
With a healthy and all things go well season....We will prolly be in that 40-44 win range....But its a big if with the injury history of a few guys....
barnes played 65, rj 58, jakob 57, quickley 33, ingram 0, dick 54, etcetc
and we still won 30 games. remember all those ethical tanking losses, imagine just filliping half of them gets us past the line.
Yeah but any injury to Ingram/Yak even Barnes for a chunk of games could lower our record dramatically.....We would need a long stretch of good health with our main guys for us in the 40-44 wins area.....Any set backs to some key players we are in the 35 win area....I would not be shocked if it goes either way personally.....Ofc id hope for all things to go perfect and we in the 40s win area but if we end up in the 30s again i won't be totally shocked considering the injury history.

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Better bet:
Raptors to win the Atlantic at 33 to 1.
Healthy season, a few things gelling and a Knicks injury or two and they probably get it.
You're probably capped at betting $100 on it though.
Raptors to win the Atlantic at 33 to 1.
Healthy season, a few things gelling and a Knicks injury or two and they probably get it.
You're probably capped at betting $100 on it though.
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AbC? wrote:The Pelicans traded their unprotected 1st to move up 10 spots and have the 4th worst win total odds going into the season. The Dumars special.
That the Raptors didn’t pounce on that is negligence and the norm of late.
But they traded that pick for Derik Queen who is a perfect fit next to Zion Williamson and Zion will have the best season of his career merely by Derik eating all the food near Zion so there's less for him. They don't actually fit on the floor together.
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Clutch0z24 wrote:douggood wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:We have a injury risk roster....So there are reasons to believe we under achieve again next season.....Even Barnes hasn't been the healthiest since his rookie season.....We are a Yak/Ingram injury away from having really bad few weeks without them to be back in the tanking ranges....
With a healthy and all things go well season....We will prolly be in that 40-44 win range....But its a big if with the injury history of a few guys....
barnes played 65, rj 58, jakob 57, quickley 33, ingram 0, dick 54, etcetc
and we still won 30 games. remember all those ethical tanking losses, imagine just filliping half of them gets us past the line.
Yeah but any injury to Ingram/Yak even Barnes for a chunk of games could lower our record dramatically.....We would need a long stretch of good health with our main guys for us in the 40-44 wins area.....Any set backs to some key players we are in the 35 win area....I would not be shocked if it goes either way personally.....Ofc id hope for all things to go perfect and we in the 40s win area but if we end up in the 30s again i won't be totally shocked considering the injury history.
We had that situation just this year. Full force and no tanking, we would be a .500 team.
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barely over.
think 38 wins.
think 38 wins.
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FanDuel is showing 36.5
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Yallbecrazy wrote:AbC? wrote:The Pelicans traded their unprotected 1st to move up 10 spots and have the 4th worst win total odds going into the season. The Dumars special.
That the Raptors didn’t pounce on that is negligence and the norm of late.
But they traded that pick for Derik Queen who is a perfect fit next to Zion Williamson and Zion will have the best season of his career merely by Derik eating all the food near Zion so there's less for him. They don't actually fit on the floor together.
All I know is that CMB better be amazing for them to turn down the Pelicans offer. For a team that isnt winning a nba championship anytime soon, to turn down that offer would be crazy otherwise.
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1 major injury to Poeltl and this team becomes completely trash. 1 major injury to Ingram and we become last year's crappy team that would hover around that mark.
Those are the 2 avenues for us to be under 34.5. Everything else has this as an easy over.
Those are the 2 avenues for us to be under 34.5. Everything else has this as an easy over.
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Feels like an easy over, no?
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Over:
Clippers
-Norm is gone, but they have passable starters as their frontcourt depth now (Collins and Lopez), Dunn, Derrick Jones JR, Kawhi and Zubac are strong defenders, Lopez might be better playing far less minutes, Lue is a good coach and Harden probably has another year of keeping the offence at league average in him.
Under:
Celtics
-They'd bring back Horford if they were desperate to win games, so I think they're looking to have a sabbatical year without Tatum, keep minutes reasonable, maybe even a bit of a tank to try to get a big man in the draft as a cheap starter for a few more years of contention with Tatum/Brown/Hauser/White/Pritchard as a very strong perimeter group. A Brown injury would see them completely helpless defensively against bigger wings/forwards.
Nets
-Rookie ballhandlers/point guards kill teams and they only have those guys.
Clippers
-Norm is gone, but they have passable starters as their frontcourt depth now (Collins and Lopez), Dunn, Derrick Jones JR, Kawhi and Zubac are strong defenders, Lopez might be better playing far less minutes, Lue is a good coach and Harden probably has another year of keeping the offence at league average in him.
Under:
Celtics
-They'd bring back Horford if they were desperate to win games, so I think they're looking to have a sabbatical year without Tatum, keep minutes reasonable, maybe even a bit of a tank to try to get a big man in the draft as a cheap starter for a few more years of contention with Tatum/Brown/Hauser/White/Pritchard as a very strong perimeter group. A Brown injury would see them completely helpless defensively against bigger wings/forwards.
Nets
-Rookie ballhandlers/point guards kill teams and they only have those guys.
Where's the D?
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Re: NBA Win Totals (Raptors at 34.5)
I think last year our O/U was 30.5 and with everything we're only 4 wins better? I think low 40s would be the expectation this year I'm going over but I'd need to see the schedule. I said last year that 30-33 wins was probably be the best case scenario factoring in health and our schedule. The East will be weaker with the loss of Lillard, Tatum and Haliburton.












