A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right?

[Pointgod]

Other than passing, can anyone tell me what Mogbo does better than Precious?

[Indeed]

Honestly, what are we getting from him?

If there is a good deal, it would be considered. Meanwhile, trading him doesn't seem to help with our tax situation, so most likely we look to move someone with a bigger contract as the higher priority.

[TheGeneral99]

Mogbo has no trade value so I don't understand what we are trading him for unless he's part of a package with a better player.

2nd round bigs that average 6ppg on 43% shooting on a horrible team will get you nothing, lol, not sure what OP is thinking.

[Duffman100]

Other than passing, can anyone tell me what Mogbo does better than Precious?

Overall he's a much smarter player and projecting to be a better defender. His his rookie year his defensive metrics appear to be on par with Precious today.

Hopefully the soft touch he showed in Summer League translates to the NBA this year.

[tsherkin]

He's cheap, he has any potential at all, he has defensive value and we need depth.

[dTox]

Yes. It is inevitable Mogbo is traded before the end of his career.

Source?

[dhackett1565]

You WANT to have more guys than minutes available, that's called playable depth. CMB will go through rookie struggles, might spend some time with the 905 if they want him to stretch his wings and develop some on ball stuff or just recover some confidence if he has a rough stretch. And guys will get hurt, miss time, other guys will get chances.

Somehow our 2nd round minimum salary guy who might need to wait for his chance is not driving me to make a trade.

[manjusaka]

WTH, we need depth at 4/5. We don’t have the luxury to trade away any unless we have legitimate backup.

[Brinbe]

lol absolutely not. a cheap versatile forward with his size that can actually defend is a pretty good asset to have. also rebounds, is a fine passer. there's plenty of more expendable pieces on this roster. and there's some upside there to be tapped into, especially on the offensive end. I don't think JM is a finished product by any means even if he is older than your usual prospect.

[Psubs]

You WANT to have more guys than minutes available, that's called playable depth. CMB will go through rookie struggles, might spend some time with the 905 if they want him to stretch his wings and develop some on ball stuff or just recover some confidence if he has a rough stretch. And guys will get hurt, miss time, other guys will get chances.

Somehow our 2nd round minimum salary guy who might need to wait for his chance is not driving me to make a trade.

He's cheap and his next contract will likely be cheap. He'll still be a 10th guy off the bench that can fill in multiple roles, unlike Boucher.

He's he first player that CMB outplays for more PT.

The trade that is inevitable is from the wing with RJ Barrett and/or Ochai Agbaji.

[PhilBlackson]

For what?! lol

His salary is minuscule and he’s just a defensive rotational player. There’s zero reason we “must” trade him right now. If there’s a good trade and for some bizarre reason the opposing team is demanding JMo then so be it but it’s far from a pressing issue.

[MoneyBall]

Other than passing, can anyone tell me what Mogbo does better than Precious?

A DBPM of +1.0 in his rookie year is impressive. Precious never got that. Not even once.

[Tofubeque]

Mogbo makes 1.9 million or 1.3% of the cap, with a team option next year and RFA the year after.

Barrett makes 27 million or 18% of the cap, expiring in 2 seasons with a 44 million cap hold (23.7% of cap).

That’s why you see one in trade rumors and not the other.

[AbC?]

He might net you a 2nd round pick at best, no point in trading him. If his development stalls he's a candidate to get released next summer.

[ConSarnit]

When you look at this roster, there’s a clear glut at the 2/3/4.

A lot has been said about the wing glut between RJ/Jakobe/Dick/Ochai. But there isn’t that much convo about how Mogbo doesn’t really fit with CMB on the team.

Both Mogbo and CMB play like undersized non-floor spacing Centers. CMB is clearly the better prospect.

As constructed, Mogbo can’t play extended mins at either PF or C.

We’ve talked a lot about trading RJ. Since there’s no market for him, IMO Mogbo is actually the more likely trade prospect (athletic hustle big on a rookie deal). They are guaranteed to make a move to duck the tax. It’s possible we send them out together in a star deal, when you think about this logically.


I’ve already started wondering where Mogbo might end up (Chicago? Sacramento?). He won’t be here past the trade deadline.

I would argue that when you think about logically we aren’t getting star back based on an RJ package.

If a star becomes available and our package is RJ + picks then that package is going to get beat by a plethora of teams. If a star becomes available we are far down the list as a front runner.

We tried to trade RJ for Ingram and even the dumbass Pels didn’t want him. I firmly believe RJ doesn’t have much value around the league given what we’ve seen scoring + questionable defense guards go for this off-season.

As for Mogbo I say we hold onto him. We won’t get back a better pick than we used on him so might as well keep hoping on his upside.

[LiSTWithLani]

When you look at this roster, there’s a clear glut at the 2/3/4.

A lot has been said about the wing glut between RJ/Jakobe/Dick/Ochai. But there isn’t that much convo about how Mogbo doesn’t really fit with CMB on the team.

Both Mogbo and CMB play like undersized non-floor spacing Centers. CMB is clearly the better prospect.

As constructed, Mogbo can’t play extended mins at either PF or C.

We’ve talked a lot about trading RJ. Since there’s no market for him, IMO Mogbo is actually the more likely trade prospect (athletic hustle big on a rookie deal). They are guaranteed to make a move to duck the tax. It’s possible we send them out together in a star deal, when you think about this logically.


I’ve already started wondering where Mogbo might end up (Chicago? Sacramento?). He won’t be here past the trade deadline.

Rumblings are that he's been working hard on his shot and is trying to convert his game into more of a SF. He showed us the ability to guard on the perimeter and if he were playing on the wing with a reliable corner 3, he'd be able to beat some guys backdoor for a lob or sneak in for some rebounds while junking things up defensively.

The whole thing about these long, lengthy, switchable guys is that they are stackable; they can switch everything and can play any position for that reason defensively. You can't teach size/ athleticism (to a degree) and that's why he isn't talked about as a trade candidate, because the organization doesn't view him as being on the block at all.
That's the opposite situation for guys that are too small to body up and contest shots in the lane that are natural SGs with limited length.

Make no mistake, operation 6'9" is finally unfolding - only now the league is smaller and the reigning champs featured a zillion guys 6'5" with arms-for-days and supernatural defensive instincts. Supersize what they do and run a lineup of our big boys out there:

Barnes/ Ingram/ Mogbo/ CMB/ Mamu/ RJ/ Agbaji

[DreamTeam09]

When you look at this roster, there’s a clear glut at the 2/3/4.

A lot has been said about the wing glut between RJ/Jakobe/Dick/Ochai. But there isn’t that much convo about how Mogbo doesn’t really fit with CMB on the team.

Both Mogbo and CMB play like undersized non-floor spacing Centers. CMB is clearly the better prospect.

As constructed, Mogbo can’t play extended mins at either PF or C.

We’ve talked a lot about trading RJ. Since there’s no market for him, IMO Mogbo is actually the more likely trade prospect (athletic hustle big on a rookie deal). They are guaranteed to make a move to duck the tax. It’s possible we send them out together in a star deal, when you think about this logically.


I’ve already started wondering where Mogbo might end up (Chicago? Sacramento?). He won’t be here past the trade deadline.

I would argue that when you think about logically we aren’t getting star back based on an RJ package.

If a star becomes available and our package is RJ + picks then that package is going to get beat by a plethora of teams. If a star becomes available we are far down the list as a front runner.

We tried to trade RJ for Ingram and even the dumbass Pels didn’t want him. I firmly believe RJ doesn’t have much value around the league given what we’ve seen scoring + questionable defense guards go for this off-season.

As for Mogbo I say we hold onto him. We won’t get back a better pick than we used on him so might as well keep hoping on his upside.

Name the teams that have expendable contracts that they're willing to trade in order to match salary - along with draft capital.
The bucks would trade Kuzma right now for RJ

A lot of the teams you think that are star hunting have already made big times moves, which is why it's not the end of the world when we miss out on a star in a trade because that's one less team to contend with on the next go around in the trade market

[ConSarnit]

When you look at this roster, there’s a clear glut at the 2/3/4.

A lot has been said about the wing glut between RJ/Jakobe/Dick/Ochai. But there isn’t that much convo about how Mogbo doesn’t really fit with CMB on the team.

Both Mogbo and CMB play like undersized non-floor spacing Centers. CMB is clearly the better prospect.

As constructed, Mogbo can’t play extended mins at either PF or C.

We’ve talked a lot about trading RJ. Since there’s no market for him, IMO Mogbo is actually the more likely trade prospect (athletic hustle big on a rookie deal). They are guaranteed to make a move to duck the tax. It’s possible we send them out together in a star deal, when you think about this logically.


I’ve already started wondering where Mogbo might end up (Chicago? Sacramento?). He won’t be here past the trade deadline.

I would argue that when you think about logically we aren’t getting star back based on an RJ package.

If a star becomes available and our package is RJ + picks then that package is going to get beat by a plethora of teams. If a star becomes available we are far down the list as a front runner.

We tried to trade RJ for Ingram and even the dumbass Pels didn’t want him. I firmly believe RJ doesn’t have much value around the league given what we’ve seen scoring + questionable defense guards go for this off-season.

As for Mogbo I say we hold onto him. We won’t get back a better pick than we used on him so might as well keep hoping on his upside.

Name the teams that have expendable contracts that they're willing to trade in order to match salary - along with draft capital.
The bucks would trade Kuzma right now for RJ

A lot of the teams you think that are star hunting have already made big times moves, which is why it's not the end of the world when we miss out on a star in a trade because that's one less team to contend with on the next go around in the trade market

What does trading for Kuzma have to do with anything? Kuzma is a bad contract. Why would we ever trade RJ for Kuzma?

Who already made their move? HOU gave up a single 1st for Durant. They still have a pile of assets and contracts like Sengun or Smith Jr. SAS has multiple 1sts, Vassell and Barnes as salary plus some combo of Fox/Harper/Castle if they want to go big game hunting. OKC still has a boatload of assets as well as contacts like Hartenstein, Dort, Joe and Wiggins. Even lesser teams like Utah have a ton of surplus draft assets.

It should be very clear that we are not positioned all that well to trade for a star given the current asking price for even guys like Bane and Bridges. Even our “white whale” (Giannis) dream has died as the guy who we thought could pull it off due to his “connections” (Masai) is no longer here.

[kalel123]

As already noted, he has little value in trade market. I think we are more likely to just let him expire out than be able to trade him for anything of value.

[Gavin_TDThree]

JM seems to be well liked around the team, always cheering on his teammates. He's best friends with Scottie. As a 3rd/4th big who can come in and bring you energy/change of pace, I don't see why we can't have him around. Similar to how we'd use Boucher in years past. Maybe JM develops a competent 3 and can be a decent 3&D player. I don't think there's any rush to move him as I highly doubt he stands in the way of any players development