OT - Wiretap: Firesale in Milwaukee?

deknow · Post #21 » by **deknow** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:03 pm

D Mason? I mean I know he can't shot but he's a decent slasher. Any takers?

JD225 · Post #22 » by **JD225** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:04 pm

Redd pretty much anchors the worst perimeter defensive team in the league :lol:

. He is a terrible defender. That can't be stressed enough. Using google (thanks Andrew Bogut) I looked at his salary and figured our FO wouldn't be stupid enough to actually trade for this guy.

Something about pairing that guy with Jose (at the moment) just scares the crap out of me. But it's all good though, we have a great shot blocking and post defending presence to make up for such awful perimeter D.

dillio · Post #23 » by **dillio** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:11 pm

kmatrixg wrote:joey Graham and Juan Dixon for Charlie V.....

lmfao

i know eh

i also like the guy that said he wouldn't trade hump for CV

TheRaptor! · Post #24 » by **TheRaptor!** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:13 pm

thats raptor fans for ya

Hump for CV who we loved 2 yrs ago. NO WAY

:rofl:

Redds nice, but bad contract. Mason is nice, but no shot. Yi is nice but untouchable.

mo is nice..oh wait.

TorontoHuskies · Post #25 » by **TorontoHuskies** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:14 pm

beefman wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

if based on talent, yes.

but based on team needs, then no. we needs hump's tough rebounding and inside hustle more than charlie's offense.

AGE

Hump 22 > CV 23

MPG

Hump 16 < CV 19

Shooting %

Hump 49.4 > CV 43.8

FT &

Charlie 73.5 > Hump 68.5

Rebounding

Charlie 4.7 > Hump 4.6

OFF REB

Hump 1.7 > CV 1.6

Ast/To ratio

Hump .625 > CV .416

Steals

Hump .4 > CV .2

Block

Hump .5 > CV .3

PPG

CV 9.3 > Hump 7

note: CV attempts 8.3 fg per game vs Humps 5.8

Hump has more upside, plays better defense and is more efficient than CV...this talent you speak of has only showed itself once... near the end of his rookie season on a terrible team when the game meant absolutly nothing...

Post #26 » by **YogiStewart** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:15 pm

i really like a lot of the players on the Bucks' roster. i expected big things from them this year. not sure if they don't mix well or if i'm overvaluing their talent.

but do they have anything that the Raps can use?

cv3? no thanks
even bogut - Raps can use a big, but is he worth it?

Post #27 » by **LittleOzzy** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:16 pm

Looks like some rumours are already starting to stream in

The latest is....

Redd, Villanueva, and a 1st round pick to Houston for Tracy McGrady and Bonzi Wells.

This is taken from the Bucks board and comes from Peter Vescey

deknow · Post #28 » by **deknow** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:17 pm

Bogus is not going anywhere. I wouldn't mind Redd but that contract is just gross.

TheRaptor! · Post #29 » by **TheRaptor!** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:18 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:Looks like some rumours are already starting to stream in

The latest is....

Redd, Villanueva, and a 1st round pick to Houston for Tracy McGrady and Bonzi Wells.

This is taken from the Bucks board and comes from Peter Vescey

Horrible for Houston

RomaniaLuvTR · Post #30 » by **RomaniaLuvTR** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:18 pm

parker rasho dixon and 1st round in 2009

deknow · Post #31 » by **deknow** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:18 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:Looks like some rumours are already starting to stream in

The latest is....

Redd, Villanueva, and a 1st round pick to Houston for Tracy McGrady and Bonzi Wells.

This is taken from the Bucks board and comes from Peter Vescey

Really? doesn't T-mac have a no-trade clause?

bigjabroni · Post #32 » by **bigjabroni** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:19 pm

[quote="TorontoHuskies"][/quote]

Most of those stats are off by tenths, is it really relevant?

TheRaptor! · Post #33 » by **TheRaptor!** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:21 pm

bigjabroni wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Most of those stats are off by tenths, is it really relevant?

To raptor fans, yea.

:roll:

deknow · Post #34 » by **deknow** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:21 pm

TheRaptor! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Horrible for Houston

Really? A lottery pick Redd and a up and comer? Me thinks not TMAc can't even stay healthy!

dillio · Post #35 » by **dillio** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:22 pm

TorontoHuskies wrote:Hump has more upside, plays better defense and is more efficient than CV...this talent you speak of has only showed itself once... near the end of his rookie season on a terrible team when the game meant absolutly nothing...

Hump is an energy player. His potential is to be a solid energy player and first big man off the bench. CV is a MUCH better shooter, ballhandler, and passer than Hump and has the potential to be a starting forward.

lmao I also love how you pulled out stats like AST/TO ratio to help your weak point

TheRaptor! · Post #36 » by **TheRaptor!** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:23 pm

deknow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Really? A lottery pick Redd and a up and comer? Me thinks not TMAc can't even stay healthy!

Tmac is still better then Redd,

Bonzi is playing well too.

IF hes healthy, bucks win big time.

I still remember buck fans saying they are a better team then the raptors.
blaming last year on injuries. :rofl:

TorontoHuskies · Post #37 » by **TorontoHuskies** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:24 pm

bigjabroni wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Most of those stats are off by tenths, is it really relevant?

The closeness was actually a point of my argument-which was refuting someones analysis that CV has more talent

kmatrixg · Post #38 » by **kmatrixg** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:26 pm

Nice deal for Houston. If its true. Anything for Tmac at this point is cash money.

dillio · Post #39 » by **dillio** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:26 pm

deknow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Really? doesn't T-mac have a no-trade clause?

he'll waive it... we all know how much T-mac loves playing with those chinese guys!

seriously though, I think Houston wins that trade.

Franchise_411 · Post #40 » by **Franchise_411** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:27 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:Looks like some rumours are already starting to stream in

The latest is....

Redd, Villanueva, and a 1st round pick to Houston for Tracy McGrady and Bonzi Wells.

This is taken from the Bucks board and comes from Peter Vescey

Thanks for the find LittleOzzy, but it's a 50-50 thing with Vescey ... However, if this deal does go through, I remember T-Mac complaining about the weather up here, good luck to him in Milwaukee ...