Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired

[sanity]

If this team still sucks over the next 1.5 seasons, I don't think Lowry will be wanting to stick around regardless of who's GM. I wonder how years of losing will wear on someone like Jonas

Losing DeRozan isn't the end of the world. It might be for the better if we stink enough to actually get someone decent at the 2/3 through the draft. (haven't had one since Carter)

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

This reminds me of J.P. Ricciardi some how.

The common point the two have is ownership who don't care about winning.

If you want to make your voices heard, stop paying to watch crap teams... I refuse to pay to watch any sports team in this town.

[Leolovinliberal]

8 people voted no?

This is how you know only 8 posters here have triple digit IQ's...

No surprise that the most ardent Colangelo supporters are also Bargnani fans. Those two will always be linked.

But really Colangelo has been a complete failure here. 7 years, 1 winning season and just 3 playoff wins in his tenure. Other than the public speaking part, Bryan Colangelo is the George W Bush of GM's. Living off daddy's legacy, false bravado, profligate spending, hubris and plain old incompetence. The fact that it took 7 years before most people woke up to how much of a fraud he was is just plain sad. We're finally making progress.

That's funny, I think the parallels between BC and Obama are uncanny:

Wastefully spends ridiculous amounts of money
No concept of a budget whatsoever
Never takes any personal responsibility for his actions
Always makes excuses and blame someone else for his mistakes

Barack Hussein Colangelo

[Scase]

ITT 25 idiots who voted no.

[JustWin]

Says alot when 86% of 174 people say yes

[RaptorReloaded]

If he get's gay he can stay

[TimoCruz]

I know I mentioned this earlier, but I thought i'd mention it again.

Alot of us use twitter here. To be honest if each of us wrote #fireBC followed by reasons why, we could get this trending or atleast recognized and picked up by the media.

I'm sure we all have atleast 10 reasons why we think he should be fired. All we would have to do is when we think of it type #fireBC and follow it with our comment.

I was really debating about creating a thread for this to see how many people would be in, but mods might just lock er up.

What would everyone think??????

[speedythief]

Says alot when 86% of 174 people say yes

I was also surprised that it is such a lopsided poll.

The best thing I can say about him is that Colangelo wears the hell out of a high-collared Italian dress shirt. THE HELL OUT OF IT

[UnderdogRaptors]

I know I mentioned this earlier, but I thought i'd mention it again.

Alot of us use twitter here. To be honest if each of us wrote #fireBC followed by reasons why, we could get this trending or atleast recognized and picked up by the media.

I'm sure we all have atleast 10 reasons why we think he should be fired. All we would have to do is when we think of it type #fireBC and follow it with our comment.

I was really debating about creating a thread for this to see how many people would be in, but mods might just lock er up.

What would everyone think??????

I've been using that hashtag on twitter for a while now LOL lets make it happen we don't need Isiah Thomas 2.0 on our team anymore ANY GM is better than Clownangelo

[TribeZulu]

I have been a supporter of BC, but no longer. Fire pleaser

[andyo]

Like I said earlier, if we don't get rid of Eversley, Jim Kelly, Rucker, and Stefanski while we're at it, its a lost cause. If Stefanski ends up being interim GM then it will be analogous to Triano replacing Smitch- lateral move at best.

[Yosemite Dan]

Too bad that most of you don't understand that great NBA players refuse to play in Toronto, so no GM can convince them other wise.
The easiest thing in the world is to criticize, why not offer a solution - who is that great GM that wants to build a Siberi....oops...Toronto NBA team?

Blame BC all you want, but understand that in this league where stars decide where they go, Toronto does not stand a chance to build a "championship" team.
And please stop with the stupid "build it and they come", since there is no way to successfully build in the NBA without having a team full of superstars. Chicken or egg?

I don't think anyone is upset for the stars he's "not able to bring". I think people are upset because we keep signing below average players to insane deals.

Agreed, and why do people think a top 5 city in North America is not attractive to NBA players? Gimme a break. Players love coming here for road games. The reason teams like the Raps and Jays have trouble getting players is because the franchise has been a mess for years. That's attractive to no one. KG balked at going to Boston the year before he was traded there because they were a mess of a franchise for years, and he was in Minny of all places where you would think jump at the chance to leave. He only went the next year when they were gonna have the big 3 set up for the Celts. I wouldn't call San Antonio or Oklohoma City a happening place but they have no problem keeping thier players. It's because they are great franchises.

When the Jays were title contenders, players were lining up to play here. Henderson, Winfield, Morris, Cone and Molitor all jumped at the chance to play here because we were a model franchise who were always winning.

The Leafs are one of the most historic franchises yet they can't get players, Canadians or otherwise, because the franchise stinks. And this is hockey we're talking about here.

We have been a Mickey Mouse franchise for years, why would players come here when they could go to Disneyworld to see Mickey Mouse? Build a winner and they will come. In fact they would run over here to play for a winner and enjoy the nightlife and restaurants. Hedu sure did.

[cdel00]

Hire you to be gm yes you its time to be a man my son. You will make a wonderful gm.



Rofl

[D-BE-LAW]

Only fire him if we know we have some good candidates. I rather ''replace'' colangelo then fire him and blindly look for someone to replace him. As soon as a superior GM is available, take him. Nothing against colangelo, he was a great GM to sign due to his track record in Phoenix, but it hasn't worked in Toronto.

I want to hear an interview afterwords as well, and i want someone to ask him about attracting free agents to Toronto, and if he seen any difficulties because of that.

[El Bow]

Hire you to be gm yes you its time to be a man my son. You will make a wonderful gm.



Rofl

FireBCovember

[Ado05]

The 26 people who voted 'nay', smh.

[3thomas]

His house of cards is falling down; too many bad deals to count, so little success to show during his tenure. His story/vision is wearing thin with each game they play.

I'd really like this franchise to have a complete makeover, from management to players to announcers to broadcasting team, just tired of this old broken record.

[Kurtz]

BC's an average GM in this league. If I was to grade him, it'd be:

Drafting: B
Trading: B+ (Villaneuva for Ford, Araujo for Hump, Turk dump, Jose for Chandler[FU MJ], Lowry)
Free Agents D+ (F if not for Garbo/Parker)

So overall, we have a C+/B- GM on our hands. Perfectly average.

Problem is...you're not going to win with an average GM unless you're in Miami/NY/LA or you get insanely lucky at the draft. That's why you let him go and take a swing at GM with monster upside - like Houston has done with Morey. No **** Ed Stefansky retreads.

[Archerbro]

Yeah,
I think we have reached that point, the last six months have been a pretty clear indication that the league has passed BC by or he simply has got to a point of madness.

We dealt Barbosa (a 7.6m dollar expiring contract) for basically nothing to give us flexibility in the "pre-draft period";
Which we didn't use.

We walked into the draft with a lotto pick and two second rounders in an extremely deep draft and a glut of cap flexibility and we used all our picks, and worst of all while Ross may have been the guy BC wanted, we could have traded down and still got him, our asset management at the draft was terrible.

We enter free agency and were ultimately used by our very clear free agent priority to secure years and dollars for other organizations and end up spending an overwhelming amount of money on yet another band-aid small forward solution which is harming us more then helping.

We moved a lot of assets in terms of cap flexibility and the Bulls 2011 pick for James Johnson and Bayless, and ultimately ended up with the Kings second rounder as our pay off for both of them basically a year and change later, and what's most interesting is I would sooner both of them to Fields and Lucas for far less money.

We bid against ourselves to sign DeMar DeRozan to a long term contract which he hasn't earned and we didn't have to do, and while his play over the first few games has been nice, is hardly the norm. We turned DeMar into another untradable piece in an ocean of untradable pieces.

There is either some brilliant master-plan in place which will make me bask in BC's brilliance, or he simply has been unable or unwilling to make the deals he needs to make to make this club better.

We have had a problem at the three since he got here; and has committed millions upon millions of dollars and hundred upon hundreds of minutes to failed solutions like Jones, Kapono, Turkoglu, Wright, Wright, Weems, Moon, Fields, Kleiza, etc etc. and here we are right back to that same problem we had the day after we let Mo'Pete walk back in the summer of 2006.

We are without cap flexibility moving forward; which means for us to improve its either draft or trade or MLE signing and we don't exactly have a ton of assets to move and I just don't see the way forward unless Jonas becomes a beast and we find a way to turn Jose / Ed / Midding Assets into a legit SF which is highly unlikely.

Its to a point where we just need some new perspective, because this one just ain't working.

well put.

[Edumacated]

I'd extend BC another two years if he can somehow make a trade for Gay or Deng while shipping out Bargs at the same time.