Alex Kennedy: Raps willing to package Ross + JV to land a star

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Josephina Johnson would have been nice, until I looked at that salary. Which wise guy's idea was it to pay him that much dough?

[Indeed]

Kennedy is not a reliable source. The problem now is that idiot bloggers take a claim by Kennedy and fap and fap about it like it might have truth. It's just about generating hits for secondary or tertiary sites that need the traffic to get some ad revenue.

If it doesn't come from ESPN, Yahoo, etc, or on occasion, a good local beat writer, it has no foundation and is either an outright lie, or some agent playing games with a guy he's going to need to drive the rumour mill just before the draft.

I think the media is right - the real media, not these self-appointed and self-interested bloggers who overwrite about trade deadlines and the draft. The Raps are not likely to do anything this week.

If they do, my bet is they will deal an expiring and our 2015 draft pick, but nothing of substance goes off our roster.

I agree, and I think we are modelling a bit like Atlanta for team strategy/execution instead of a star player.
As we saw the trade of Gay means we don't want star players to do what they want, we want players with team mentality, who would do what the coaches asked for.

I suppose we are similar to Atlanta in a lot of ways, as they built around Teague with stretch bigs, adding shooters in Korver providing alternate scoring, and a deep bench. We have Lowry who is a very good outside shooter who can get inside, adding slasher in DeRozan.

As a playoff team this year, I doubt we want to make big changes. Other than Ross being expandable due to playing the same position at SG with DeRozan and Lou dominating the minutes, I don't see we can expand anyone else.

[theSkinny]

Kennedy is not a reliable source. The problem now is that idiot bloggers take a claim by Kennedy and fap and fap about it like it might have truth. It's just about generating hits for secondary or tertiary sites that need the traffic to get some ad revenue.

If it doesn't come from ESPN, Yahoo, etc, or on occasion, a good local beat writer, it has no foundation and is either an outright lie, or some agent playing games with a guy he's going to need to drive the rumour mill just before the draft.

I think the media is right - the real media, not these self-appointed and self-interested bloggers who overwrite about trade deadlines and the draft. The Raps are not likely to do anything this week.

If they do, my bet is they will deal an expiring and our 2015 draft pick, but nothing of substance goes off our roster.

I agree, and I think we are modelling a bit like Atlanta for team strategy/execution instead of a star player.
As we saw the trade of Gay means we don't want star players to do what they want, we want players with team mentality, who would do what the coaches asked for.

I suppose we are similar to Atlanta in a lot of ways, as they built around Teague with stretch bigs, adding shooters in Korver providing alternate scoring, and a deep bench. We have Lowry who is a very good outside shooter who can get inside, adding slasher in DeRozan.

As a playoff team this year, I doubt we want to make big changes. Other than Ross being expandable due to playing the same position at SG with DeRozan and Lou dominating the minutes, I don't see we can expand anyone else.

Peoples also forget that rumours do not get leaked from T.O management at all ...they have serious internal repercussions for one leaks

[cram]

Kennedy is not a reliable source. The problem now is that idiot bloggers take a claim by Kennedy and fap and fap about it like it might have truth. It's just about generating hits for secondary or tertiary sites that need the traffic to get some ad revenue.

If it doesn't come from ESPN, Yahoo, etc, or on occasion, a good local beat writer, it has no foundation and is either an outright lie, or some agent playing games with a guy he's going to need to drive the rumour mill just before the draft.

I think the media is right - the real media, not these self-appointed and self-interested bloggers who overwrite about trade deadlines and the draft. The Raps are not likely to do anything this week.

If they do, my bet is they will deal an expiring and our 2015 draft pick, but nothing of substance goes off our roster.

I agree, and I think we are modelling a bit like Atlanta for team strategy/execution instead of a star player.
As we saw the trade of Gay means we don't want star players to do what they want, we want players with team mentality, who would do what the coaches asked for.

I suppose we are similar to Atlanta in a lot of ways, as they built around Teague with stretch bigs, adding shooters in Korver providing alternate scoring, and a deep bench. We have Lowry who is a very good outside shooter who can get inside, adding slasher in DeRozan.

As a playoff team this year, I doubt we want to make big changes. Other than Ross being expandable due to playing the same position at SG with DeRozan and Lou dominating the minutes, I don't see we can expand anyone else.

Peoples also forget that rumours do not get leaked from T.O management at all ...they have serious internal repercussions for one leaks

Let's take a look at what happened:
- Alex Kennedy reported the rumor that a whole bunch of teams were interested in Amare, including Toronto.
- Even though this had little validity (pretty obvious the "leak" was Amare's agent), it drummed up a whole bunch of reaction from Toronto fans on the internet. Lots of speculation about who we would/should trade....including Ross and JV for Cousins.
- Suddenly Alex Kennedy is reporting that JV and Ross could be traded for a star.

Smells pretty fishy, no?

[OakleyDokely]

Sacramento is delusional. They think they're a good coach away from being a contender. There's no way they are trading Cousins, at least in the short term.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I would imagine that Sacramento would at least give the Karl-Cousins combo a shot before dumping him for a reset. There's no need to trade Cousins, he can't walk for another 3 and a half seasons. That's an eternity in the NBA. Alex Kennedy is basically made for posters that dream up these kinds of proposals.

Another way to look at it is that star players of that calibre and that contract situation just don't get moved. Any time a star gets traded, it's because their clock is up or near up.

[Kenyon009]

DeRozan, Val, 2015 1st, 2016 NY/DEN 1st, and Amir for Cousins and Thompson.

They get a potential all star, an all star, potentially a lotto pick, and another first, along with a good role playing expiring.

Cousins
Patterson
Johnson
Ross
Lowry

Terrible.

And1, it's beyond terrible.

How exactly is it terrible? It has a lot of potential, we also have sixth man of the year Lou Williams and Vasquez on the bench. Not to mention that's a strong starting line up. Johnson and Patterson are very good role players and Cousins and Lowry are superstar talents. The weakest bit is Ross and if we got a new coach he could implement him in the offense more. Between having 4 shooters around a dominant player and a great bench I don't see how this is a terrible line up.

[Clutch0z24]

[kidr1211]

Terrible.

And1, it's beyond terrible.

How exactly is it terrible? It has a lot of potential, we also have sixth man of the year Lou Williams and Vasquez on the bench. Not to mention that's a strong starting line up. Johnson and Patterson are very good role players and Cousins and Lowry are superstar talents. The weakest bit is Ross and if we got a new coach he could implement him in the offense more. Between having 4 shooters around a dominant player and a great bench I don't see how this is a terrible line up.

Yall need to stop

[RNsteve]

Unless your talking about Cousins..why the **** would you trade JV?

There's really no deals that make sense.

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[Hero]

Reading this thread I've learned that there are some who see JV matching or surpassing Cousins when JV is his age.

What in the world.

[Raptors911]

Terrible.

And1, it's beyond terrible.

How exactly is it terrible? It has a lot of potential, we also have sixth man of the year Lou Williams and Vasquez on the bench. Not to mention that's a strong starting line up. Johnson and Patterson are very good role players and Cousins and Lowry are superstar talents. The weakest bit is Ross and if we got a new coach he could implement him in the offense more. Between having 4 shooters around a dominant player and a great bench I don't see how this is a terrible line up.

It's terrible because our wing players would be a bunch of role players. None that really get to the line and just no consistent offense. Our biggest need is a backup big to take Psycho's spot.

[gerrit4]

I have a feeling this will be another quiet raptor trade deadline. The problem is that JV & Ross are more valuable to us than what we can get in a trade - they won't net us a guy like Boogie, and they're not really worth trading for anything less. Not to mention, we're thinnest at the C & SF, and we'd like to stay young.

[Bad Guy]

I just lost half of the IQ points after reading all the trade suggestions in this theard. Man, some of you are really delusional...

[scopy]

I would imagine that Sacramento would at least give the Karl-Cousins combo a shot before dumping him for a reset. There's no need to trade Cousins, he can't walk for another 3 and a half seasons. That's an eternity in the NBA. Alex Kennedy is basically made for posters that dream up these kinds of proposals.

Another way to look at it is that star players of that calibre and that contract situation just don't get moved. Any time a star gets traded, it's because their clock is up or near up.

I believe George Karl was pissed when Masai and ownership traded Nene for McGee. Doubt he lets his quality big man get traded again like that.

[jonazzz]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/2/17/8 ... gs-celtics

[sca]

DeRozan, Val, 2015 1st, 2016 NY/DEN 1st, and Amir for Cousins and Thompson.

They get a potential all star, an all star, potentially a lotto pick, and another first, along with a good role playing expiring.

Cousins
Patterson
Johnson
Ross
Lowry

Terrible.

And1, it's beyond terrible.

Are you kidding me? That team would compete for the championship right out of the bat. Not to mention that you have your best guys (Lowry and Cousins) locked up under very reasonable contracts for like 3-4 years.

Cousins / Psycho-T
PatPat / Thompson
Johnson / Fields
Vasquez / Ross
Lowry / Lou Will

Wow! Too bad SAC would never do that.

[corporatwelfare]

aldridge ?
klay thompson ?
the gasols ?
noah ?
griffin?
Jordan?
nowitzki
melo ?
durant or westbrook?
Lots a guys could be
lots of teams could use a good young center and sg

[kavan]

I think GM's are afraid to trade with Masai at this point

The King's front office is too dumb to be afraid. JV, Ross, Fields, Hayes and 2016 first round pick for Boogie + Stauskas.

That sets both teams up and brings us some Canadian content to stroke it from outside.

Lowry
GV
Demar
Amir
Cousins

hmmm....

[CrookedJ]

Kennedy was going to be on Tim & Sid at some point today, I've been stuck in meetings and wondering if anybody caught it....