The Gasol trade was our downfall

[Mtowngrizz]

Marc is a good 3rd or 4th option at this point in his career which is perfect for you guys. We signed him to a max contract to be 1A along with Mike Conley and he couldn't handle that role. I love JV and is looking forward to see him play more with Jaren Jackson Jr. I was pleasantly surprised with Delon Wright as well.

[Useyourhead]

he played better but his rim protection still needs to improve his pnr defense was also not great this game but putting in serge beside him was a good balance, we need that type of production from him for the remainder of the series if we are going to win or continue to hope embid stays hurt

His defense was very good lol. And Embiid had the flu last week.

I watched the ABC feed and they said he didn't shoot around today and brett brown said it was a battle to get him on the court today and they will need another big game from jimmy butler aka so i'm not giving gasol full credit for the defense on embid and overall his defense was okay, still allowed multiple layups and easy baskets especially the first half but yes he played better and we will need that for the rest of the series from him

[Johnny Bball]

he played better but his rim protection still needs to improve his pnr defense was also not great this game but putting in serge beside him was a good balance, we need that type of production from him for the remainder of the series if we are going to win or continue to hope embid stays hurt

His defense was very good lol. And Embiid had the flu last week.

I watched the ABC feed and they said he didn't shoot around today and brett brown said it was a battle to get him on the court today and they will need another big game from jimmy butler aka so i'm not giving gasol full credit for the defense on embid and overall his defense was okay, still allowed multiple layups and easy baskets especially the first half but yes he played better and we will need that for the rest of the series from him

Of course not. Why not make excuses for JV... I mean Embiid.

[Johnny Bball]

Marc is a good 3rd or 4th option at this point in his career which is perfect for you guys. We signed him to a max contract to be 1A along with Mike Conley and he couldn't handle that role. I love JV and is looking forward to see him play more with Jaren Jackson Jr. I was pleasantly surprised with Delon Wright as well.

In the end, Wright will be the best bang for the buck.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

I still like the trade, as much as I LOVE JV.

I will say this though, I'm blown away by next to no post presence. I thought Marc would have some post game.

I think the trade off is spacing for Kawhi and Siakam.

That’s who they are betting on down the stretch. Not JV clogging up the paint and his whimsical PNR defense


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[LBJKB24MJ23]

Marc is a good 3rd or 4th option at this point in his career which is perfect for you guys. We signed him to a max contract to be 1A along with Mike Conley and he couldn't handle that role. I love JV and is looking forward to see him play more with Jaren Jackson Jr. I was pleasantly surprised with Delon Wright as well.

In the end, Wright will be the best bang for the buck.

Well he’s due for a new contract so that may not hold true.


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[Johnny Bball]

Marc is a good 3rd or 4th option at this point in his career which is perfect for you guys. We signed him to a max contract to be 1A along with Mike Conley and he couldn't handle that role. I love JV and is looking forward to see him play more with Jaren Jackson Jr. I was pleasantly surprised with Delon Wright as well.

In the end, Wright will be the best bang for the buck.

Well he’s due for a new contract so that may not hold true.


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Meh, I think JV stays at 17 million, but if he doesn't take his option, I don't think that's going to work out well at a higher number is all. Forget Miles!

[Salted Meat]

The spacing he provides, along with his passing ability, makes him much more valuable in the playoffs than JV.

The only thing is that he's selfless to a fault, and will always look to make a play for someone else before looking for his own shot. Philadelphia knows this, and has been backing off of him and playing the pass, so now Gasol needs to shoot those wide open shots to keep the defence honest. I think he did a good job of that today.

[Steelo Green]

The spacing he provides, along with his passing ability, makes him much more valuable in the playoffs than JV.

The only thing is that he's selfless to a fault, and will always look to make a play for someone else before looking for his own shot. Philadelphia knows this, and has been backing off of him and playing the pass, so now Gasol needs to shoot those wide open shots to keep the defence honest. I think he did a good job of that today.

Agreed. Him being more aggressive and looking for his own shot was a huge difference maker.

[Mtowngrizz]

Marc is a good 3rd or 4th option at this point in his career which is perfect for you guys. We signed him to a max contract to be 1A along with Mike Conley and he couldn't handle that role. I love JV and is looking forward to see him play more with Jaren Jackson Jr. I was pleasantly surprised with Delon Wright as well.

In the end, Wright will be the best bang for the buck.

Well he’s due for a new contract so that may not hold true.


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Delon showed us enough that we are definitely trading Conley this summer and will match any contract offer Delon might get as a restricted free agent. We also will probably offer JV a three year extention this summer.

[pkiskool]

Gasol vs JV debate is understandable but FVV over Delon is a real head scratcher.

[LLJ]

There's no guarantee we'd be better than 2-2 right now with JV and Delon instead.

Having said that, FVV has been awful.

[everdiso]

Raps Playoffs

Gasol '19: 28.7mpg, .194ws48, +5.7bpm
Jonas '18: 24.4mpg, .155ws48, +0.3bpm / Wright 21.5mpg, .114ws48, +3.0bpm / Miles 22.7mpg, .073ws48, +0.3bpm
Jonas '17: 22.6mpg, .081ws48, -6.6bpm / Wright 10.2mpg, .123ws48, +1.6bpm
Jonas '16: 26.8mpg, .226ws48, +4.0bpm / Wright 4.6mpg, .035ws48, -2.9bpm
Jonas '15: 26.5mpg, .079ws48, -5.5bpm
Jonas '14: 28.6mpg, .079ws48, -4.1bpm

[OakleyDokely]

The contracts wouldn't work in the MEM deal with VV included. Delon only makes 2.5 while VV makes 8.5.

The deal would have been a lot different if you exchanged Delon with VV.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Gasol vs JV debate is understandable but FVV over Delon is a real head scratcher.

well they are similar in terms of output but Delon is a longer guard and has those intangibles because he's long. FVV was a better shooter from 3 this year as a Raptor. but some may argue with more minutes Delon could find his rhythm.

FVV is 2 years younger and has 1 year left on his contract while Delon is a RFA and 27.

yes FVV looks bad now because he can't find his shot and taht was his strong suit.

hell - if he broke out in game 5, all would already be forgiven - at least until game 6.

[Johnny Bball]

Gasol vs JV debate is understandable but FVV over Delon is a real head scratcher.

It’s hard to figure out one was under contract and one is a RFA? And we don’t have cap space?

[LBJKB24MJ23]

The contracts wouldn't work in the MEM deal with VV included. Delon only makes 2.5 while VV makes 8.5.

The deal would have been a lot different if you exchanged Delon with VV.

and when it comes to contracts - people saying it should have been FVV instead of Delon. lmao this.

lots of people saying "they should have traded Lowry instead of Demar" SA would not trade Kawhi for Lowry.
lots of people saying "they should have traded OG instead of Poeltl" I think Poeltl is great but i think he lacks upside. hence why the raptors held onto OG in many perceived trades. I mean i'm with ya. in Y1, OG showed a lot of untapped potential - so yes Raptors would hold onto him unless a superstar was traded back to the Raptors.

[torontoaces04]

playoff JV would be beasting...probably get Embiid in foul trouble at least one game

We get killed on the boards now
Dwright is better than FVV


MU just needs to take the L on the Gasol trade

I bet you thought this troll post would stand up longer than 4 days.

How wrong you were.

[TerryTate]

Raps Playoffs

Gasol '19: 28.7mpg, .194ws48, +5.7bpm
Jonas '18: 24.4mpg, .155ws48, +0.3bpm / Wright 21.5mpg, .114ws48, +3.0bpm / Miles 22.7mpg, .073ws48, +0.3bpm
Jonas '17: 22.6mpg, .081ws48, -6.6bpm / Wright 10.2mpg, .123ws48, +1.6bpm
Jonas '16: 26.8mpg, .226ws48, +4.0bpm / Wright 4.6mpg, .035ws48, -2.9bpm
Jonas '15: 26.5mpg, .079ws48, -5.5bpm
Jonas '14: 28.6mpg, .079ws48, -4.1bpm

Is that BPM because of DD brick city??

[ontnut]

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