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Post#202 » by S.W.A.N » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:18 pm

mademan wrote:Powell looked like he was killing it at the Rico Hines scrimmages. I hope that carries over



I also watch a lot of the Rico HInes vids, and the Powell I saw was a vet. It looks like the game has slowed down for him a bit and he now is a little better at picking his spots. Instead of just trying to power his way to the hoop every time down the floor he was going in the flow of the offense, making smart passes, hitting threes and attacking when the opportunity presents itself.

He had a couple turnaround jumpers that were explosive and smooth at the same time, the kind of moves that are almost unguardable. If he plays with that kind of poise and awareness this season he is going to be a stud.

I am so hyped on him and OG taking that next step. It would make our starting lineup incredibly balanced and dangerous.
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Post#204 » by YelloC » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:24 pm

Louie Rankin who did that sick Raptors rant during the title run died in a car accident. Rip Louie.
I got a real kick out of that rant. It’s a shame, he seemed like a true fan.
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Post#205 » by TheAlchemist » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:29 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:
mademan wrote:Powell looked like he was killing it at the Rico Hines scrimmages. I hope that carries over



I also watch a lot of the Rico HInes vids, and the Powell I saw was a vet. It looks like the game has slowed down for him a bit and he now is a little better at picking his spots. Instead of just trying to power his way to the hoop every time down the floor he was going in the flow of the offense, making smart passes, hitting threes and attacking when the opportunity presents itself.

He had a couple turnaround jumpers that were explosive and smooth at the same time, the kind of moves that are almost unguardable. If he plays with that kind of poise and awareness this season he is going to be a stud.

I am so hyped on him and OG taking that next step. It would make our starting lineup incredibly balanced and dangerous.


I saw exactly that too. Powell is definitely picking his spots and he's not trying to do too much. I can definitely see him average around 15 ppg if he plays like that. Nail 2-3 3 pointers, hit 3-4 free throws, and score at the rim 3 times in a game = 15 ppg to 19 ppg Not out of the ordinary if he gets it together.

Same goes for OG. 15-17 ppg with solid defense is all we need really.

That means the 2-3 positions for the future are solid starters at the very least with 1 star in Siakim and two aging ones in Gasol/Lowry. Not to mention our 6 man in FVV.

That's literally a realistic and best case scenario.
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Post#206 » by ImissJordan » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:39 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:
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mademan wrote:Powell looked like he was killing it at the Rico Hines scrimmages. I hope that carries over



I also watch a lot of the Rico HInes vids, and the Powell I saw was a vet. It looks like the game has slowed down for him a bit and he now is a little better at picking his spots. Instead of just trying to power his way to the hoop every time down the floor he was going in the flow of the offense, making smart passes, hitting threes and attacking when the opportunity presents itself.

He had a couple turnaround jumpers that were explosive and smooth at the same time, the kind of moves that are almost unguardable. If he plays with that kind of poise and awareness this season he is going to be a stud.

I am so hyped on him and OG taking that next step. It would make our starting lineup incredibly balanced and dangerous.


I saw exactly that too. Powell is definitely picking his spots and he's not trying to do too much. I can definitely see him average around 15 ppg if he plays like that. Nail 2-3 3 pointers, hit 3-4 free throws, and score at the rim 3 times in a game = 15 ppg to 19 ppg Not out of the ordinary if he gets it together.

Same goes for OG. 15-17 ppg with solid defense is all we need really.

That means the 2-3 positions for the future are solid starters at the very least with 1 star in Siakim and two aging ones in Gasol/Lowry. Not to mention our 6 man in FVV.

That's literally a realistic and best case scenario.


I don't think we see both Powell and OG average 15-19 points per game. In fact, I don't think it's even likely for either of them.

You'll have to factor in Siakam's increased offensive load as well as Lowry and Gasol's involvement, as well.

However, a realistic and best case scenario would be solid-to-good defense from both and a nice uptick in scoring with some consistency in outside shooting, since that's an area we're really going to be lacking in IMHO.
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Post#207 » by YoungG » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:44 pm

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Post#208 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:47 pm

ImissJordan wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:

I also watch a lot of the Rico HInes vids, and the Powell I saw was a vet. It looks like the game has slowed down for him a bit and he now is a little better at picking his spots. Instead of just trying to power his way to the hoop every time down the floor he was going in the flow of the offense, making smart passes, hitting threes and attacking when the opportunity presents itself.

He had a couple turnaround jumpers that were explosive and smooth at the same time, the kind of moves that are almost unguardable. If he plays with that kind of poise and awareness this season he is going to be a stud.

I am so hyped on him and OG taking that next step. It would make our starting lineup incredibly balanced and dangerous.


I saw exactly that too. Powell is definitely picking his spots and he's not trying to do too much. I can definitely see him average around 15 ppg if he plays like that. Nail 2-3 3 pointers, hit 3-4 free throws, and score at the rim 3 times in a game = 15 ppg to 19 ppg Not out of the ordinary if he gets it together.

Same goes for OG. 15-17 ppg with solid defense is all we need really.

That means the 2-3 positions for the future are solid starters at the very least with 1 star in Siakim and two aging ones in Gasol/Lowry. Not to mention our 6 man in FVV.

That's literally a realistic and best case scenario.


I don't think we see both Powell and OG average 15-19 points per game. In fact, I don't think it's even likely for either of them.

You'll have to factor in Siakam's increased offensive load as well as Lowry and Gasol's involvement, as well.

However, a realistic and best case scenario would be solid-to-good defense from both and a nice uptick in scoring with some consistency in outside shooting, since that's an area we're really going to be lacking in IMHO.

Definitely not that much points for OG he will be more around 12
Assuming kyle doesn't go back to being more offensive and continues to avg close to 10 assist I wont be surprised to see a consistent Powell as the 2nd leading scorer on the team
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Post#209 » by HeadtopChunes » Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:05 pm

I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc
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Post#210 » by Danny1616 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:20 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


...what?
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Post#211 » by arbsn » Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:44 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


You mean RHJ?
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Post#212 » by HeadtopChunes » Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:48 pm

arbsn wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


You mean RHJ?


Nah I already know what RHJ looks like in that role. We haven’t seen Stanley do that yet

Would he interesting is all I’m saying just like we used OG last year at the 5 and he was pretty good from what I remember
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Post#213 » by RaptorReloaded » Tue Oct 1, 2019 10:31 pm

YelloC wrote:Louie Rankin who did that sick Raptors rant during the title run died in a car accident. Rip Louie.
I got a real kick out of that rant. It’s a shame, he seemed like a true fan.


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Post#214 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 11:31 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


what?

we have Ibaka, Boucher, RHJ, Dewan, Sagaba, maybe even some Devin Robinson if he can make the team.

+ OG whos going to see the ball at the 4/5 this year probably. and plus Siakam as a small ball big.

SJ isn't PJ Tucker lmao.
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Post#215 » by HeadtopChunes » Tue Oct 1, 2019 11:36 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


what?

we have Ibaka, Boucher, RHJ, Dewan, Sagaba, maybe even some Devin Robinson if he can make the team.

+ OG whos going to see the ball at the 4/5 this year probably. and plus Siakam as a small ball big.

SJ isn't PJ Tucker lmao.


I don’t see why we can’t try it? We have an entire preseason + regular season to see what it looks like

Stanley has been far from successful at the 3 so far. A little bit better at the 4. So why not the 5?

Stanley is as much a small ball big as OG is and really the only thing separating him and PJ is that he’s a much worse shooter.
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Post#216 » by Mikistan » Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:13 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


what?

we have Ibaka, Boucher, RHJ, Dewan, Sagaba, maybe even some Devin Robinson if he can make the team.

+ OG whos going to see the ball at the 4/5 this year probably. and plus Siakam as a small ball big.

SJ isn't PJ Tucker lmao.


I don’t see why we can’t try it? We have an entire preseason + regular season to see what it looks like

Stanley has been far from successful at the 3 so far. A little bit better at the 4. So why not the 5?

Stanley is as much a small ball big as OG is and really the only thing separating him and PJ is that he’s a much worse shooter.

Playing Stanley at the 5 is like putting bargnani at the 3
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Post#217 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:22 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:I wonder what Stanley would look like as a small ball 5

Would mitigate his shooting issues and he’s strong enough for it

Would like to test him in that role especially if we are load managing Marc


what?

we have Ibaka, Boucher, RHJ, Dewan, Sagaba, maybe even some Devin Robinson if he can make the team.

+ OG whos going to see the ball at the 4/5 this year probably. and plus Siakam as a small ball big.

SJ isn't PJ Tucker lmao.


I don’t see why we can’t try it? We have an entire preseason + regular season to see what it looks like

Stanley has been far from successful at the 3 so far. A little bit better at the 4. So why not the 5?

Stanley is as much a small ball big as OG is and really the only thing separating him and PJ is that he’s a much worse shooter.


I could see some lineups with OG Stanley and Pascal, I think you can mix and match with any of the '4s' on this team because guys like OG Stanley and RHJ have the strength to play small ball 5. But I doubt it gets often.
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Post#218 » by ash_k » Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:22 am

I am really hoping that Thomas can quickly turn into a Redick..if we want to go OG/Siakam/Gasol/Kyle(Fred)/SG
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Post#219 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:26 am

Mikistan wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
what?

we have Ibaka, Boucher, RHJ, Dewan, Sagaba, maybe even some Devin Robinson if he can make the team.

+ OG whos going to see the ball at the 4/5 this year probably. and plus Siakam as a small ball big.

SJ isn't PJ Tucker lmao.


I don’t see why we can’t try it? We have an entire preseason + regular season to see what it looks like

Stanley has been far from successful at the 3 so far. A little bit better at the 4. So why not the 5?

Stanley is as much a small ball big as OG is and really the only thing separating him and PJ is that he’s a much worse shooter.

Playing Stanley at the 5 is like putting bargnani at the 3


No it’s not, playing Stanley at the 5 is like playing any other unskilled forward at the 5.

Stanley is strong for his position (second heaviest player on our roster) and not really that athletic. Putting him at the 5 would let him play more on the interior or take bigs off the dribble (which he can do) also let him switch more and get out in transition.

Stanley is probably the worst out of the 3 between him OG/RHJ so he’s probably not gonna get that many chances in general.

But if OG can look good playing the 5 I don’t see why Stanley can’t
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Post#220 » by Mikistan » Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:41 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:
Mikistan wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
I don’t see why we can’t try it? We have an entire preseason + regular season to see what it looks like

Stanley has been far from successful at the 3 so far. A little bit better at the 4. So why not the 5?

Stanley is as much a small ball big as OG is and really the only thing separating him and PJ is that he’s a much worse shooter.

Playing Stanley at the 5 is like putting bargnani at the 3


No it’s not, playing Stanley at the 5 is like playing any other unskilled forward at the 5.

Stanley is strong for his position (second heaviest player on our roster) and not really that athletic. Putting him at the 5 would let him play more on the interior or take bigs off the dribble (which he can do) also let him switch more and get out in transition.

Stanley is probably the worst out of the 3 between him OG/RHJ so he’s probably not gonna get that many chances in general.

But if OG can look good playing the 5 I don’t see why Stanley can’t

OG can do it with some semblance because he can hit an open 3.

What benefit do you think Stanley will provide at the 5?
Any?or you just want it because it means we hide Stanley's offense at the benefit of what?
Having him guard 5a on defense?

We would be effectively be punting that matchup.

So he is undersized inside offensively against a big, and the big can elect to go under or give up the shot to a bad shooter.
And on D he is forced to get help against a C inside breaking down our D from a simple pass inside.

That math still makes him a negative on the floor, negative on D and upgraded to a hide/wash on O.

Why would the Raptors do that and force a give away matchup when they can just play him at the 3 or 2 have him be a potential positive on D and work him into a wash or positive eventually on O?

I'm not saying spot minutes won't work or playing it with switches and some other bigs and cross matching TO START defensive possessions but it seems ridiculous to put that much out of position developmental minutes for a guy who is on a 1 year deal on a low dollar.

Invest that time in anyone else with more upside at the 5...
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