Jalen Harris Discussion

[Pooh_Jeter]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

[Bruin]

What impresses me the most is the patience he plays with. He plays with the patience of a 10 year vet but has played only 13 games in his career without a summer league and a condensed Gleague season

[kleatius_01]

There is a lot of GTJ hate in this thread for some reason. We don't know what other offers were out there for norm, so saying we should have traded him for picks is pointless. Smart move is to retain GTJ (only 22!) at a lower cap hit, use our cap space this summer on a new player or to retain guys like Jalen, and sign / sign and trade Lowry. Then if we dont think he is part of the future he can be moved. That's a ton of value created from norm who was a second round pick.

[Marty_Budda]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

[Steelo Green]

Forgive me, but I need a lil bit more than 4 meaningless games to judge a player..to rank Jalen ahead of a younger Blue Devil/former McDs All-American that has been scoring for about a year in competitive teams

People overestimate players base on small sample size unfortunately.

Conversely, Trent's sample size is more than adequate. 39.5 FG% with us. That's an average, the mean is way worse. The assessment can be taken back to Portland, if his numbers were bad here without starters, we can then say his #'s in Portland were better with Dame/CJ (career 41.5 FG% is bad for a SG, needs to be around 45%) . Bottom line: who is the better value? Trent at $15M per is going to limit us in other areas such as starting C which should be our priority. Its 50%+ likely that we draft a SG, at most Trent has 1 season before he is likely supplanted by this draft pick. Trent isn't a bad player but he's not worth the money when there are cheap alternatives available that can give you similar production. We should be able to see it. Keep in mind, Dallas needed to win last night to avoid play in. Those were quality minutes.

Trent is similar to guys like THJ, Seth Curry, Josh Richardson.

Those guys are just 3rd guards who hit the three and play D.

Good players as you said but to shell out that kind of money is bad asset management.

[B-Ball Freak]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

[PerfectJab]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

[B-Ball Freak]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

Just forfeit every game because you have no players, there's your tanking lineup right there.

[Par36]

People overestimate players base on small sample size unfortunately.

Conversely, Trent's sample size is more than adequate. 39.5 FG% with us. That's an average, the mean is way worse. The assessment can be taken back to Portland, if his numbers were bad here without starters, we can then say his #'s in Portland were better with Dame/CJ (career 41.5 FG% is bad for a SG, needs to be around 45%) . Bottom line: who is the better value? Trent at $15M per is going to limit us in other areas such as starting C which should be our priority. Its 50%+ likely that we draft a SG, at most Trent has 1 season before he is likely supplanted by this draft pick. Trent isn't a bad player but he's not worth the money when there are cheap alternatives available that can give you similar production. We should be able to see it. Keep in mind, Dallas needed to win last night to avoid play in. Those were quality minutes.

Trent is similar to guys like THJ, Seth Curry, Josh Richardson.

Those guys are just 3rd guards who hit the three and play D.

Good players as you said but to shell out that kind of money is bad asset management.

People downplaying GTjr despite him being 22, solid track record andwhat.. franchise record +/- a few weeks ago? Good stuff. 2 years vs 4 games.

Sign GTjr to a 12-15 mil deal. Worse case it's a trade chip in The future.

Almost as good as the clown talking about trading Pascal to get a top 5 pick this year

[Pooh_Jeter]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

[Los_29]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

Not true. He'd have lotto balls and Tyrese Maxey.

[PerfectJab]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

What the Bulls did in the 90's was great too
The Warriors in the 2010's
Boston in the 80's
Pistons in the early 90's
The Spurs for 2 decades

Point is there's more than one way to skin a cat and you cannot always default to one position as there is a combination of things that need to work synergistically in order to win a championship.

And not sure if it was on purpose, but your Jim Carrey avatar is so irritating

[Los_29]

I think with his athletic profile and ability to get to the rim Harris is very interesting. When you compare him at 2nd round tender to GTJ making 16+ million it isn't even close. This is why Norm should have been traded for futures.

If you were the GM of the raptors I swear we’d have no players on our roster. Just lotto balls.

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

This is the biggest troll job I have ever encountered.

[alienchild]

I know everyone is gonna try to compare him to a player so I'll save you some time...how about Evan effing Fournier? I dare you to find a better comparison..

Glad you spent your time to be wrong. Tim Hardaway Jr.

[B-Ball Freak]

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

You're right, 7 straight years of making the playoffs, 5 straight 50+ wins, 2 ECF appearances, 1 NBA championship is pretty weak compared to what Presti has done in recent years.

[Par36]

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

You're right, 7 straight years of making the playoffs, 5 straight 50+ wins, 2 ECF appearances, 1 NBA championship is pretty weak compared to what Presti has done in recent years.

People get so caught up in draft picks that they just forget about established all star players and actual ongoing success.

.just gotta laugh at them.

[Pooh_Jeter]

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

You're right, 7 straight years of making the playoffs, 5 straight 50+ wins, 2 ECF appearances, 1 NBA championship is pretty weak compared to what Presti has done in recent years.

The last two years there isn't a GM who has done a better job given his circumstances than Presti. Right now there isn't even a guarantee that Masai stays.

[VanWest82]

I'm still baffled that he can be so successful with that shooting stroke but his percentages from distance are hard to argue and he's very competent with the ball. He's not explosive like Norm but he's able to get to his spots and that's the important thing.

[Los_29]

What Presti has done is the envy of the league.

You're right, 7 straight years of making the playoffs, 5 straight 50+ wins, 2 ECF appearances, 1 NBA championship is pretty weak compared to what Presti has done in recent years.

Hey man, he did an incredible job of netting ONE good player for Schroeder, Westbrook, Paul, George and Adams. We are truly witnessing greatness here. Let's not forget about all those rings he won with KD, Westbrook and Harden. Oh wait...

[Psubs]

I know everyone is gonna try to compare him to a player so I'll save you some time...how about Evan effing Fournier? I dare you to find a better comparison..

Glad you spent your time to be wrong. Tim Hardaway Jr.

Tim Hardaway Sr!!! Seriously, I think Trent is more like Jr.