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Post#201 » by Dalek » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:42 am

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Does look to be in that role, does he have a iso handle ??


I think his handle could improve, but he is developing pretty quickly and can put it on floor, but he isn't at a high level yet. Compared to year one, he is night and day different. What I like is he is a high level finisher who dunks it a lot and he hits his threes and gets great elevation on his jumper. He reminds me a bit of Demar Derozan coming in. He is strong, knows his strengths and can shoot it. Demar didn't have his range, but they are a bit similar the way they play in this stage of development.



A little bit like Demar but Demar's can't shoot from distance and his defence was not nearly as good. Maybe a Covington with more hops or an Ariza but not as fluid. I can also see Richard Jefferson and a poor man Igoudala. I don't see Grant as much. If he can be a more athletic Covington or a poor man's version of an Ariza, Jefferson or Igoudala (athletic, slim, wing defenders with good range and average handle) type player he would be great pick.


It is tough to find a good comp for him, but currently he is more of a movement shooter type who can also put it on the floor a bit. What is exciting is the hops and physicality he plays with. He is not afraid to run through screens and hit guys. On defense he reminds me a bit of Dipo. Just, they are such different offensive players coming out of college, but Dipo added his jumper late.
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Post#202 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:36 am

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Does look to be in that role, does he have a iso handle ??


I think his handle could improve, but he is developing pretty quickly and can put it on floor, but he isn't at a high level yet. Compared to year one, he is night and day different. What I like is he is a high level finisher who dunks it a lot and he hits his threes and gets great elevation on his jumper. He reminds me a bit of Demar Derozan coming in. He is strong, knows his strengths and can shoot it. Demar didn't have his range, but they are a bit similar the way they play in this stage of development.



A little bit like Demar but Demar's can't shoot from distance and his defence was not nearly as good. Maybe a Covington with more hops or an Ariza but not as fluid. I can also see Richard Jefferson and a poor man Igoudala. I don't see Grant as much. If he can be a more athletic Covington or a poor man's version of an Ariza, Jefferson or Igoudala (athletic, slim, wing defenders with good range and average handle) type player he would be great pick.


I get the other players, but Ariza doesn't really fit. He's strictly 3+d and never really had the type of athletic ability of a Iggy or Jefferson, maybe closer to Covington, maybe.

Mat projects more athletic than Ariza. If mat can become a more athletic Covington who gets to the rim that's a cool player.

This just got me thinking, after Jordan, is Edwards the biggest natural SG
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Post#203 » by Indeed » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:54 am

vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#204 » by Indeed » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:57 am

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I think his handle could improve, but he is developing pretty quickly and can put it on floor, but he isn't at a high level yet. Compared to year one, he is night and day different. What I like is he is a high level finisher who dunks it a lot and he hits his threes and gets great elevation on his jumper. He reminds me a bit of Demar Derozan coming in. He is strong, knows his strengths and can shoot it. Demar didn't have his range, but they are a bit similar the way they play in this stage of development.



A little bit like Demar but Demar's can't shoot from distance and his defence was not nearly as good. Maybe a Covington with more hops or an Ariza but not as fluid. I can also see Richard Jefferson and a poor man Igoudala. I don't see Grant as much. If he can be a more athletic Covington or a poor man's version of an Ariza, Jefferson or Igoudala (athletic, slim, wing defenders with good range and average handle) type player he would be great pick.


I get the other players, but Ariza doesn't really fit. He's strictly 3+d and never really had the type of athletic ability of a Iggy or Jefferson, maybe closer to Covington, maybe.

Mat projects more athletic than Ariza. If mat can become a more athletic Covington who gets to the rim that's a cool player.

This just got me thinking, after Jordan, is Edwards the biggest natural SG


I don't think he is those bully type of player who uses his size. I think he may end up like McGrady lite in having a better handle to play the SG spot. So I don't see the comparison in Covington / Ariza. Igoudala is a good comparison, but Mathurin is more scoring focus.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#205 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:34 am

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A little bit like Demar but Demar's can't shoot from distance and his defence was not nearly as good. Maybe a Covington with more hops or an Ariza but not as fluid. I can also see Richard Jefferson and a poor man Igoudala. I don't see Grant as much. If he can be a more athletic Covington or a poor man's version of an Ariza, Jefferson or Igoudala (athletic, slim, wing defenders with good range and average handle) type player he would be great pick.


I get the other players, but Ariza doesn't really fit. He's strictly 3+d and never really had the type of athletic ability of a Iggy or Jefferson, maybe closer to Covington, maybe.

Mat projects more athletic than Ariza. If mat can become a more athletic Covington who gets to the rim that's a cool player.

This just got me thinking, after Jordan, is Edwards the biggest natural SG


I don't think he is those bully type of player who uses his size. I think he may end up like McGrady lite in having a better handle to play the SG spot. So I don't see the comparison in Covington / Ariza. Igoudala is a good comparison, but Mathurin is more scoring focus.


Iggy was a really good player in his prime. Anything close to him would be a great get. His handle can be better and not quite McGrady like. McGrady is a HOFer and very fluid, like Kobe. He's not OG mechanical but he's not as fluid either.

Edwards is a natural talent that's why I wouldn't compare the two. Hopefully he gets the chance to develop properly, he's got that killer instinct.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#206 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:06 am

Indeed wrote:
vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.


I've said a few times now that would be the player I'd zero in on as a former projected top 5 talent that has dropped due to injury. I think we'll be realistically drafting 11-17th (personally I'd be surprised if he falls any further than 14, 15) but I think it will be between him or Eason for our pick because we just won't be high up enough for some "hotter" prospects...

Firstly while I think Raps would likely prefer guys like Mathurin, Brown & Murray more --- I don't think any of them are falling outside of the top 10 and if any do then cancel AJ or Eason, it will probably be them. However I expect them to be gone. Mathurin is the least likely because you're talking about 6'7 guard that is suddenly exploding in a BIG NAME program, imo he might leapfrog Murray, and possibly PB Jr. Murray's stock is rising but it's still not the same level program, Brown has some elite physical tools & great passing BUT a lot less refined and more a "project" in the sense he'll need some development that bad teams can be very reluctant with and PB Jr was previously a top prospect but being at a small school and having off & on performances despite level of competition, could easily see him drop -- at least outside of the top 6 or 7 if he doesn't start stringing together some more impressive performances...

On the flipside I do think our team when healthy just is better than easily no less than 8 of the current bottom teams with POR a huge question mark because we'll see who flinches between Morey & POR for Lillard but if they remain this low in the standings, they really going to hold out on a rebuild when PHI will offer a treasure chest of picks for Dame?!? Maybe or maybe not but if they do flip CJ instead then maybe they'll overtake us and of course I would assume ATL should get going but that's no guarantee of that. Then you have at least 3 other teams with huge question marks --- the league has started to figure out predominantly left handed Randle & RJ, BOS has a new coach, new voice but the same internal problems that just seems to completely lack chemistry and personally I'm still not fully sold on WAS. I could see us being behind them in the standings but dreadfully beating them in a Play In.

All that blab to say I just don't see a top 10 pick happening personally. While ATL might not stay where they are, I do think one of NYK or BOS in particular will drop below us eventually and I don't rule both of them doing so in which horrible case were battling for that Play In *sigh*...my current top 10 mock draft would be

Smith
Chet
Paolo
Ivey
Brown
Mathurin
PB Jr
Hardy
Duren
Murray

That leaves players like Johnny Davis (reminds me of the type of personality Raps like), Ousmane Dieng (one of the 6'8+ versatile molds we like but has been fairly unimpressive), then you have Eason (6'8+ defensive player with offensive upside - seems to be our prototype) but I stil think AJ will get SERIOUS consideration with or ahead of Eason BECAUSE again he was a previous top 5 prospect, he has unique skill, size, strength and has great ability to create space with how well he moves laterally plus need we mention being the son of a current staff member who will obviously be vouching for his talented son who really was looking like a more explosive, athletic Jimmy Butler....he's just getting his legs back right now. IF he doesn't play his way back into the spotlight as he gets legs back & rhythm, to me that's another "OG" situation where a top talent dropped due to injury, I think they jump BUT again I could see them loving their prototype Eason too. Bit of a ramble sorry lol but just my 2c as I see it in this moment.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#207 » by God Squad » Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:59 am

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DG88 wrote:Mathurin is the guy I'm keying in on. Open to whoever the Raptors choose.


He would be a perfect fit in Toronto. His draft stock is way up this year, but he has to be near the top for them. Toronto needs an elite Canadian basketball player for once. I think it has been tough to sit through missing out on SGA and Jamal Murray and even RJ Barrett. It would be magical to get Mathurin who plays a great two-way game and is a powerful athlete.

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Post#208 » by God Squad » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:01 pm

vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?

He looks like a typical 3+D. He hardly puts the ball on the floor and attacks. I'm not sure too high on him yet personally and it seems like he's living on pre draft hype ala Zaire Williams/BJ Boston.
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Post#209 » by God Squad » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:04 pm

Indeed wrote:
vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.

Have you watched him much other than highlights? He's had like 2-3 good games all year (against bad competition) and most of his points are coming from 3pt line. He could definitely rise to the Lotto, but he needs to show much more.
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Post#210 » by Indeed » Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:13 pm

God Squad wrote:
Indeed wrote:
vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.

Have you watched him much other than highlights? He's had like 2-3 good games all year (against bad competition) and most of his points are coming from 3pt line. He could definitely rise to the Lotto, but he needs to show much more.


Or maybe we weren't watching the same game, he has a quick first step there, and some shakes.
I watched other prospects in the 10 - 20 range, they are not any better than Griffin.

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Post#211 » by Indeed » Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:28 pm

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Indeed wrote:
vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.


I've said a few times now that would be the player I'd zero in on as a former projected top 5 talent that has dropped due to injury. I think we'll be realistically drafting 11-17th (personally I'd be surprised if he falls any further than 14, 15) but I think it will be between him or Eason for our pick because we just won't be high up enough for some "hotter" prospects...

Firstly while I think Raps would likely prefer guys like Mathurin, Brown & Murray more --- I don't think any of them are falling outside of the top 10 and if any do then cancel AJ or Eason, it will probably be them. However I expect them to be gone. Mathurin is the least likely because you're talking about 6'7 guard that is suddenly exploding in a BIG NAME program, imo he might leapfrog Murray, and possibly PB Jr. Murray's stock is rising but it's still not the same level program, Brown has some elite physical tools & great passing BUT a lot less refined and more a "project" in the sense he'll need some development that bad teams can be very reluctant with and PB Jr was previously a top prospect but being at a small school and having off & on performances despite level of competition, could easily see him drop -- at least outside of the top 6 or 7 if he doesn't start stringing together some more impressive performances...

On the flipside I do think our team when healthy just is better than easily no less than 8 of the current bottom teams with POR a huge question mark because we'll see who flinches between Morey & POR for Lillard but if they remain this low in the standings, they really going to hold out on a rebuild when PHI will offer a treasure chest of picks for Dame?!? Maybe or maybe not but if they do flip CJ instead then maybe they'll overtake us and of course I would assume ATL should get going but that's no guarantee of that. Then you have at least 3 other teams with huge question marks --- the league has started to figure out predominantly left handed Randle & RJ, BOS has a new coach, new voice but the same internal problems that just seems to completely lack chemistry and personally I'm still not fully sold on WAS. I could see us being behind them in the standings but dreadfully beating them in a Play In.

All that blab to say I just don't see a top 10 pick happening personally. While ATL might not stay where they are, I do think one of NYK or BOS in particular will drop below us eventually and I don't rule both of them doing so in which horrible case were battling for that Play In *sigh*...my current top 10 mock draft would be

Smith
Chet
Paolo
Ivey
Brown
Mathurin
PB Jr
Hardy
Duren
Murray

That leaves players like Johnny Davis (reminds me of the type of personality Raps like), Ousmane Dieng (one of the 6'8+ versatile molds we like but has been fairly unimpressive), then you have Eason (6'8+ defensive player with offensive upside - seems to be our prototype) but I stil think AJ will get SERIOUS consideration with or ahead of Eason BECAUSE again he was a previous top 5 prospect, he has unique skill, size, strength and has great ability to create space with how well he moves laterally plus need we mention being the son of a current staff member who will obviously be vouching for his talented son who really was looking like a more explosive, athletic Jimmy Butler....he's just getting his legs back right now. IF he doesn't play his way back into the spotlight as he gets legs back & rhythm, to me that's another "OG" situation where a top talent dropped due to injury, I think they jump BUT again I could see them loving their prototype Eason too. Bit of a ramble sorry lol but just my 2c as I see it in this moment.


I think Baldwin may drop further (Zarrie Williams last year?), but Griffin, Davison, Daniels, and (personally I see) Beauchamp raising for the guards. Jovic, Houstan, Watson, Champagnie are the forwards in the mix for teams to draft for needs.

I am open for a C as well. Mark Williams and Nzosa seem to drop a bit, and Koloko or Diop are in the late 1st or early 2nd. Will see any mobile big C who can improve their shooting to stretch the floor.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#212 » by vulture » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:42 pm

God Squad wrote:
Indeed wrote:
vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.

Have you watched him much other than highlights? He's had like 2-3 good games all year (against bad competition) and most of his points are coming from 3pt line. He could definitely rise to the Lotto, but he needs to show much more.


Yeah he's not getting a lot of opportunities other than getting stats in garbage time. I'll have to watch his tape at the end of the season.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#213 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:21 pm

God Squad wrote:
Indeed wrote:
vulture wrote:what are everyone feelings on AJ Griffin?
I still can't figure out whether he will be good at the next level?


I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.

Have you watched him much other than highlights? He's had like 2-3 good games all year (against bad competition) and most of his points are coming from 3pt line. He could definitely rise to the Lotto, but he needs to show much more.


Personally feel that's a bit unfair of an assessment of AJ...

The kid has been trying to work himself back into the mix after a major injury which for any player takes at least a good month or two before they even really get back into a rhythm and most would actually probably only really look themselves again the following season...this is in addition to Coach K putting him on a short leash as a coach seeking for his team to go out on top as he's set to retire AND trying to blend in with potentially 3 other 1st round picks (minimum 2 in Paolo, Keels and maybe Moore - all of whom play off the perimeter and need the ball to be effective)....that's a big & difficult ask of any kid, probably one of the least ideal situations of any top prospect.

Despite all of that in pretty much every game Coach K hasn't impatiently yanked him out of the game too quickly, he's produced with double digit performances - a few times he was nearing the 20pt mark. If anything I'm very impressed he's been able to do so despite everything working against him and doesn't appear to be letting all of that kill his confidence. You point out a lot of his scoring has been from 3pt line (which I've never known in the modern game to be a knock but he shoots at 45% so far) but also think is a product of wanting to fit into what Coach K asks of him as it seems he doesn't want him to try and do "too much" and again still somehow manages to produce. But if you watched him in HS and on Team USA his strength was actually creating off the dribble so if anything that should make him all the more intriguing. If he continues to produce at the clip he does when actually given time, personally I'll be shocked if he doesn't go in the lottery. If he really gets going though people might remember what he was expected to be and jump well into the top 10 because there's still a ton of time in which case would suck for us lol but I hope he stays under the radar...

Crazy thing is despite all of that and that he really hasn't even gotten going yet, his per40 production is on par with Ivey's 1st year and Hardy's this year. As clearly you can tell lol I have a lot faith that Griffin is a potential steal in this draft something like how Booker didn't get the time he deserved but the talent was there or even OG who's stock dropped due to injury (although I'd say AJ is a better prospect than he was). But you combine his 3pt shooting ability, his Butler like style of play in HS and Team USA and if he gets back most of his explosion (reminder to some his vertical measured the same as Zion's 45' and you see some of it on his stepbacks), it's really why for me he's the kid I've been zeroing in on as a hopeful to drop to us because I just flat out don't see us getting into the top 10 without some more luck with the ping pong balls...
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Indeed wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.


I've said a few times now that would be the player I'd zero in on as a former projected top 5 talent that has dropped due to injury. I think we'll be realistically drafting 11-17th (personally I'd be surprised if he falls any further than 14, 15) but I think it will be between him or Eason for our pick because we just won't be high up enough for some "hotter" prospects...

Firstly while I think Raps would likely prefer guys like Mathurin, Brown & Murray more --- I don't think any of them are falling outside of the top 10 and if any do then cancel AJ or Eason, it will probably be them. However I expect them to be gone. Mathurin is the least likely because you're talking about 6'7 guard that is suddenly exploding in a BIG NAME program, imo he might leapfrog Murray, and possibly PB Jr. Murray's stock is rising but it's still not the same level program, Brown has some elite physical tools & great passing BUT a lot less refined and more a "project" in the sense he'll need some development that bad teams can be very reluctant with and PB Jr was previously a top prospect but being at a small school and having off & on performances despite level of competition, could easily see him drop -- at least outside of the top 6 or 7 if he doesn't start stringing together some more impressive performances...

On the flipside I do think our team when healthy just is better than easily no less than 8 of the current bottom teams with POR a huge question mark because we'll see who flinches between Morey & POR for Lillard but if they remain this low in the standings, they really going to hold out on a rebuild when PHI will offer a treasure chest of picks for Dame?!? Maybe or maybe not but if they do flip CJ instead then maybe they'll overtake us and of course I would assume ATL should get going but that's no guarantee of that. Then you have at least 3 other teams with huge question marks --- the league has started to figure out predominantly left handed Randle & RJ, BOS has a new coach, new voice but the same internal problems that just seems to completely lack chemistry and personally I'm still not fully sold on WAS. I could see us being behind them in the standings but dreadfully beating them in a Play In.

All that blab to say I just don't see a top 10 pick happening personally. While ATL might not stay where they are, I do think one of NYK or BOS in particular will drop below us eventually and I don't rule both of them doing so in which horrible case were battling for that Play In *sigh*...my current top 10 mock draft would be

Smith
Chet
Paolo
Ivey
Brown
Mathurin
PB Jr
Hardy
Duren
Murray

That leaves players like Johnny Davis (reminds me of the type of personality Raps like), Ousmane Dieng (one of the 6'8+ versatile molds we like but has been fairly unimpressive), then you have Eason (6'8+ defensive player with offensive upside - seems to be our prototype) but I stil think AJ will get SERIOUS consideration with or ahead of Eason BECAUSE again he was a previous top 5 prospect, he has unique skill, size, strength and has great ability to create space with how well he moves laterally plus need we mention being the son of a current staff member who will obviously be vouching for his talented son who really was looking like a more explosive, athletic Jimmy Butler....he's just getting his legs back right now. IF he doesn't play his way back into the spotlight as he gets legs back & rhythm, to me that's another "OG" situation where a top talent dropped due to injury, I think they jump BUT again I could see them loving their prototype Eason too. Bit of a ramble sorry lol but just my 2c as I see it in this moment.


I think Baldwin may drop further (Zarrie Williams last year?), but Griffin, Davison, Daniels, and (personally I see) Beauchamp raising for the guards. Jovic, Houstan, Watson, Champagnie are the forwards in the mix for teams to draft for needs.

I am open for a C as well. Mark Williams and Nzosa seem to drop a bit, and Koloko or Diop are in the late 1st or early 2nd. Will see any mobile big C who can improve their shooting to stretch the floor.


Other than Ivey, best guard available is Blake Wesley. He would be perfect fit for Raps but is likely gone before their number is called.
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Post#215 » by Indeed » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:41 pm

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I've said a few times now that would be the player I'd zero in on as a former projected top 5 talent that has dropped due to injury. I think we'll be realistically drafting 11-17th (personally I'd be surprised if he falls any further than 14, 15) but I think it will be between him or Eason for our pick because we just won't be high up enough for some "hotter" prospects...

Firstly while I think Raps would likely prefer guys like Mathurin, Brown & Murray more --- I don't think any of them are falling outside of the top 10 and if any do then cancel AJ or Eason, it will probably be them. However I expect them to be gone. Mathurin is the least likely because you're talking about 6'7 guard that is suddenly exploding in a BIG NAME program, imo he might leapfrog Murray, and possibly PB Jr. Murray's stock is rising but it's still not the same level program, Brown has some elite physical tools & great passing BUT a lot less refined and more a "project" in the sense he'll need some development that bad teams can be very reluctant with and PB Jr was previously a top prospect but being at a small school and having off & on performances despite level of competition, could easily see him drop -- at least outside of the top 6 or 7 if he doesn't start stringing together some more impressive performances...

On the flipside I do think our team when healthy just is better than easily no less than 8 of the current bottom teams with POR a huge question mark because we'll see who flinches between Morey & POR for Lillard but if they remain this low in the standings, they really going to hold out on a rebuild when PHI will offer a treasure chest of picks for Dame?!? Maybe or maybe not but if they do flip CJ instead then maybe they'll overtake us and of course I would assume ATL should get going but that's no guarantee of that. Then you have at least 3 other teams with huge question marks --- the league has started to figure out predominantly left handed Randle & RJ, BOS has a new coach, new voice but the same internal problems that just seems to completely lack chemistry and personally I'm still not fully sold on WAS. I could see us being behind them in the standings but dreadfully beating them in a Play In.

All that blab to say I just don't see a top 10 pick happening personally. While ATL might not stay where they are, I do think one of NYK or BOS in particular will drop below us eventually and I don't rule both of them doing so in which horrible case were battling for that Play In *sigh*...my current top 10 mock draft would be

Smith
Chet
Paolo
Ivey
Brown
Mathurin
PB Jr
Hardy
Duren
Murray

That leaves players like Johnny Davis (reminds me of the type of personality Raps like), Ousmane Dieng (one of the 6'8+ versatile molds we like but has been fairly unimpressive), then you have Eason (6'8+ defensive player with offensive upside - seems to be our prototype) but I stil think AJ will get SERIOUS consideration with or ahead of Eason BECAUSE again he was a previous top 5 prospect, he has unique skill, size, strength and has great ability to create space with how well he moves laterally plus need we mention being the son of a current staff member who will obviously be vouching for his talented son who really was looking like a more explosive, athletic Jimmy Butler....he's just getting his legs back right now. IF he doesn't play his way back into the spotlight as he gets legs back & rhythm, to me that's another "OG" situation where a top talent dropped due to injury, I think they jump BUT again I could see them loving their prototype Eason too. Bit of a ramble sorry lol but just my 2c as I see it in this moment.


I think Baldwin may drop further (Zarrie Williams last year?), but Griffin, Davison, Daniels, and (personally I see) Beauchamp raising for the guards. Jovic, Houstan, Watson, Champagnie are the forwards in the mix for teams to draft for needs.

I am open for a C as well. Mark Williams and Nzosa seem to drop a bit, and Koloko or Diop are in the late 1st or early 2nd. Will see any mobile big C who can improve their shooting to stretch the floor.


Other than Ivey, best guard available is Blake Wesley. He would be perfect fit for Raps but is likely gone before their number is called.


I see his potential with a quick first step. I guess he was being guarded closely because he wasn't shooting very well. He played well against Kentucky.

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Post#216 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:51 pm

Caleb Houstan put up an absolute dud yesterday.

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Bennedict Mathurin is a 6'6 Donovan Mitchell
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C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Bennedict Mathurin is a 6'6 Donovan Mitchell

He looks more like what we expected Terrence Ross to be.
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Post#220 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:37 pm

I really, really don't see Mathurin being available by the time we're drafting...

His scoring has taken off this year. Murray has taken a jump up mocks but like Ivey, Mathurin is doing so at a bigger program and actually the most well recognized of the 3...he's gonna soar up if he maintains this. No reason why top 5-6 is out of the question considering his production.

I just don't see him falling out the top 10 unless his offence makes a completely unexpected collapse and I don't see us being in the top 10 unless the ping pong balls bounce the right way and in which case if we're top 4, I don't see them taking him even if they're top 4, 3 of the 4 fit the 6'9+ versatile prototype and Ivey just looks like the better player. I'd be interested to see out of Jabari & Chet our FO would choose because I could see either being excellent fits with Scottie, initially I thought Jabari actually but Chet with that skillbase being developed here...bit drool worthy although obviously still little concerned about his health due to his frame long term but I'll reserve that convo for dreams that I don't waste too much time discussing because it's senseless unless we fluke up.
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