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Tank World Order (6.0)

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At 9-12 where do you stand?

Tank World Order: Hope the team continues its downward trajectory so that they can add another top lottery pick talent to the core of Barnes and OG?
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Team Mediocre: Try and win at all costs this season. Playoff experience is valuable for the young players on our team. Making the playoffs, even if the play-in helps preserve our winning culture.
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Team Neutral: Have not decided what direction I want the team to head. Waiting until later in the season to decide.
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Total votes: 119

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Post#201 » by NotMyKawhi » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:13 am

houstan is the most overrated canadian prospect of all time

Even worse than Bennett. Bennett was actually a beast in college.
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Post#202 » by Bruin » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:22 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:houstan is the most overrated canadian prospect of all time

Even worse than Bennett. Bennett was actually a beast in college.

I think his game is more suited for the NBA than the college game. Like Franz
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Post#203 » by NotMyKawhi » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:41 am

PrinceAli wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:houstan is the most overrated canadian prospect of all time

Even worse than Bennett. Bennett was actually a beast in college.

I think his game is more suited for the NBA than the college game. Like Franz


He's not getting drafted
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Post#204 » by God Squad » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:28 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:houstan is the most overrated canadian prospect of all time

Even worse than Bennett. Bennett was actually a beast in college.

I think his game is more suited for the NBA than the college game. Like Franz


He's not getting drafted

I wouldn't say that. But he's a prime candidate to fall ala BJ Boston/Skal .
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Post#205 » by bballsparkin » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:52 am

Steelo Green wrote:The Ant and Lamelo draft was a “weak” one.

Vassell, Haliburton, Maxey, Anthony, Bey, Stewart, Bane, were in that draft.

Every draft has talent.


Exactly. It's like if there is no LeBron the draft is considered "weak". This draft looks fairly deep to me.
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Post#206 » by bballsparkin » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:59 am

PhilBlackson wrote:
Idk where all this nonsense about a weak draft is even coming from the top 8 or so look great and there's plenty of guys with solid upside...

Paolo
Chet
Smith
Hardy
Ivey
Henderson
PB Jr
Murray

Then you have Watson, McGowen, Griffin, Brown, Dieng, Collins, Mathurin, Houstan, Keels, Jovic etc...seems like a complete fabrication imo.


Damn, you didn't even include Duren. :lol:
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Post#207 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Thu Dec 2, 2021 10:04 am

Chet still at 86/37/70 2/3/ft%.
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Let's playin for 9th!

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Post#208 » by God Squad » Thu Dec 2, 2021 10:20 am

bballsparkin wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
Idk where all this nonsense about a weak draft is even coming from the top 8 or so look great and there's plenty of guys with solid upside...

Paolo
Chet
Smith
Hardy
Ivey
Henderson
PB Jr
Murray

Then you have Watson, McGowen, Griffin, Brown, Dieng, Collins, Mathurin, Houstan, Keels, Jovic etc...seems like a complete fabrication imo.


Damn, you didn't even include Duren. :lol:

But he included Scoot Henderson who isn't even draft eligible (he would be #1). But I agree this class is getting undervalued at this point by some.
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Post#209 » by Psubs » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:58 pm

Iowa plays #2 Purdue tomorrow!

Keegan Murray for Jaden Ivey! Sophomore battle!!!
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Post#210 » by Mehar » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:18 pm

This draft might not have the big names such as Lebron and Carmelo in years gone by, but it is still a good draft. Hopefully, we can get another lucky bounce and draft in the top 4 again. Keep the losses coming, and the tank rolling.
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Post#211 » by Psubs » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:45 pm

Mehar wrote:This draft might not have the big names such as Lebron and Carmelo in years gone by, but it is still a good draft. Hopefully, we can get another lucky bounce and draft in the top 4 again. Keep the losses coming, and the tank rolling.


Outside of the top 4, I like Keegan Murray and Nikola Jovic and big versatile forwards. :D

What about freshman Kendall Brown from Baylor (over senior Matthew Mayer)?

Nice passing! Almost an A/T of 2.




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Post#212 » by aligator » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:10 pm

I don't think Keegan Murray is a lottery pick.
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Post#213 » by Madhouse » Thu Dec 2, 2021 5:20 pm

PrinceAli wrote:We’re 2.5 games from the 11th seed (lol) and also 2.5 games away from the 5th best lotto odds


If we keep going at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if MU pulls the plug before the deadline and trades Siakam. I just keep looking at the Cavs and their 2 cornerstones for the future were picked a 3 and 5. Right now we are at 9 and eventually Indiana should pass us. 8th seems realistic, maybe Sacramento passes us but I'm not sure yet. I have hope NO passes us with Zion back. But right now 8th looks realistic.

Bryce McGowens and Blake Wesley in that range interest me a lot.
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Post#214 » by EliteSmarts » Thu Dec 2, 2021 5:22 pm

PrinceAli wrote:Gonna need Hardy to start shooting the ball more efficiently. So far he’s putting up Suggs efficiency in the Gleague

I have 0 interest in SGs who's only skill is putting up buckets but is below average in everything else.

I want well rounded intelligent players that Raptors can develop their offensive skillset.
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Post#215 » by EliteSmarts » Thu Dec 2, 2021 5:26 pm

Psubs wrote:
Mehar wrote:This draft might not have the big names such as Lebron and Carmelo in years gone by, but it is still a good draft. Hopefully, we can get another lucky bounce and draft in the top 4 again. Keep the losses coming, and the tank rolling.


Outside of the top 4, I like Keegan Murray and Nikola Jovic and big versatile forwards. :D

What about freshman Kendall Brown from Baylor (over senior Matthew Mayer)?

Nice passing! Almost an A/T of 2.




@1:05 dunk then get ALL the way back to block the fast break dunk attempt!


Welcome to Kendall Brown bandwagon train. Hop along and enjoy the ride!

He's currently player I want Raptors to draft the most because of his skillset, upside and realistic draft position of being outside top 5 and within lottery pick.
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Post#216 » by Psubs » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:17 pm

EliteSmarts wrote:Welcome to Kendall Brown bandwagon train. Hop along and enjoy the ride!

He's currently player I want Raptors to draft the most because of his skillset, upside and realistic draft position of being outside top 5 and within lottery pick.


He's like a more athletic/physical Franz Wagner. More athletic/physical Delano Banton?

He seems to make quicker reads and passes than Siakam.

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Post#217 » by ItsDanger » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:28 pm

Hardy is a good shooter with deep range. Its more a question of his scoring versatility. Judging from video, he's working on other facets of scoring.
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Post#218 » by EliteSmarts » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:46 pm

Psubs wrote:
EliteSmarts wrote:Welcome to Kendall Brown bandwagon train. Hop along and enjoy the ride!

He's currently player I want Raptors to draft the most because of his skillset, upside and realistic draft position of being outside top 5 and within lottery pick.


He's like a more athletic/physical Franz Wagner. More athletic/physical Delano Banton?

He seems to make quicker reads and passes than Siakam.


Athletic, defends, playmaker and jumpshot improving while being a freshman! Those are interesting comparisons you made as well and I agree with them.
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Post#219 » by Psubs » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:54 pm

EliteSmarts wrote:
Psubs wrote:
EliteSmarts wrote:Welcome to Kendall Brown bandwagon train. Hop along and enjoy the ride!

He's currently player I want Raptors to draft the most because of his skillset, upside and realistic draft position of being outside top 5 and within lottery pick.


He's like a more athletic/physical Franz Wagner. More athletic/physical Delano Banton?

He seems to make quicker reads and passes than Siakam.


Athletic, defends, playmaker and jumpshot improving while being a freshman! Those are interesting comparisons you made as well and I agree with them.


Athletically he looks like Jalen Johnson.
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Post#220 » by TrustFundBaby » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:59 pm

Chandan wrote:
mdenny wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:this draft is really bad imo


That seems to be the consensus among the experts. Maybe not 'really bad' but definitely underwhelming.


Same thing could be said about the talent level on our team.

What choice do we have?


We don't. Its a weak draft, just because the Raptors are gonna get a lotto pick in it we don't have to lie to ourselves.

It's OK tho we got the #4 pick in a stacked draft. Whoever we add from like the 7-10 range will be a solid starter to help Scottie in the future.

2023 tho? You got Wembanyama, Sharpe, and Bates, all hyped prospects.

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