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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#201 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:13 am

I'll say it so the Precious crew doesn't have to pile on. Precious was much better than Maxey in first quarter game 2.

Good job by Flynn. I guess we did game plan for Maxey after all. :lol:
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#202 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:41 am

WaltFrazier wrote:I'll say it so the Precious crew doesn't have to pile on. Precious was much better than Maxey in first quarter game 2.

Good job by Flynn. I guess we did game plan for Maxey after all. :lol:


Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#203 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:48 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:I'll say it so the Precious crew doesn't have to pile on. Precious was much better than Maxey in first quarter game 2.

Good job by Flynn. I guess we did game plan for Maxey after all. :lol:


Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.

Well I spoke too soon Maxey had a great 2nd.

I am not so close minded as to make flat definitive statements as though they are facts not opinions.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#204 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:55 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:I'll say it so the Precious crew doesn't have to pile on. Precious was much better than Maxey in first quarter game 2.

Good job by Flynn. I guess we did game plan for Maxey after all. :lol:


Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.

Well I spoke too soon Maxey had a great 2nd.

I am not so close minded as to make flat definitive statements as though they are facts not opinions.


They are facts. You just choose to ignore them.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#205 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:02 am

A projection of a player 2 years hence cannot be fact, by definition. Just opinion

Meanwhile Kayla just reported that coach Gleeson was saying what we need to do against Maxey s speed. Guess you were wrong saying you don't game plan a guy like him
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

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Los_29 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:I'll say it so the Precious crew doesn't have to pile on. Precious was much better than Maxey in first quarter game 2.

Good job by Flynn. I guess we did game plan for Maxey after all. :lol:


Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.

Ceiling means nothing without the work and BALL IQ. I trust in Maxey reaching his full potential more than Ill ever trust Precious in reaching his.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#207 » by JN » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:24 am

I have no issue in claiming that Maxey is better than Precious now and likely in the future. That being said Precious is still a good piece to have moving forward.

I do have an issue in just accepting the "fact" that Maxey was offered to us.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#208 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:27 am

JN wrote:I have no issue in claiming that Maxey is better than Precious now and likely in the future. That being said Precious is still a good piece to have moving forward.

I do have an issue in just accepting the "fact" that he was offered to us.

Wow a reasonable rational comment. Kudos.

Yeah we'll never know for sure who offered what.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#209 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:40 am

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Los_29 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:I'll say it so the Precious crew doesn't have to pile on. Precious was much better than Maxey in first quarter game 2.

Good job by Flynn. I guess we did game plan for Maxey after all. :lol:


Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.

Ceiling means nothing without the work and BALL IQ. I trust in Maxey reaching his full potential more than Ill ever trust Precious in reaching his.


We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#210 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:48 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.

Ceiling means nothing without the work and BALL IQ. I trust in Maxey reaching his full potential more than Ill ever trust Precious in reaching his.


We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.

Yeah Maxey's been a real liability in these two games so far.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#211 » by HumbleRen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:49 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
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Precious had a sequence where he guarded Harden out on the perimeter then took him off the dribble for an and1 and then a minute later was defending Embiid down low.

And some people think Maxey has a higher ceiling than Precious.

Ceiling means nothing without the work and BALL IQ. I trust in Maxey reaching his full potential more than Ill ever trust Precious in reaching his.


We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.


I mean he's been outplaying everyone on our team in these 2 games, like I said when you mocked me. Maxey could of been our 2nd best player within a year or 2.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#212 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:55 am

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Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Ceiling means nothing without the work and BALL IQ. I trust in Maxey reaching his full potential more than Ill ever trust Precious in reaching his.


We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.


I mean he's been outplaying everyone on our team in these 2 games, like I said when you mocked me. Maxey could of been our 2nd best player within a year or 2.


Those are the perks of being a 3rd/4th option on a team with an MVP candidate and one of the best offensive players of all-time.

And no, that statement along with many others that you have made are just flat out wrong. There is simply no denying that. The list of hot takes that you've made are substantial. :lol:
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#213 » by HumbleRen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:58 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
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We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.


I mean he's been outplaying everyone on our team in these 2 games, like I said when you mocked me. Maxey could of been our 2nd best player within a year or 2.


Those are the perks of being a 3rd/4th option on a team with an MVP candidate and one of the best offensive players of all-time.

And no, that statement along with many others that you have made are just flat out wrong. There is simply no denying that. The list of hot takes that you've made are substantial. :lol:

Sounds like excuses to me but that's what you've been doing all year when it comes to Maxey lol.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#214 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:00 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
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HumbleRen wrote:Ceiling means nothing without the work and BALL IQ. I trust in Maxey reaching his full potential more than Ill ever trust Precious in reaching his.


We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.

Yeah Maxey's been a real liability in these two games so far.


What are you even talking about Walt? :lol: Stay on topic.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#215 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:04 am

Los_29 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
We are talking about who has the higher ceiling not who is more likely to reach their potential.

And does Maxey have ball IQ? Why is his defense and playmaking so bad?

I do agree that Precious needs to improve in that area and it will hinder his progress if he doesn’t. But at least with Precious, he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time.

Yeah Maxey's been a real liability in these two games so far.


What are you even talking about Walt? :lol: Stay on topic.


Supposed "bad" defense and playmaking not a liability. It was quite clear what I meant.

He didn't get 38 tonight but was huge from 2nd quarter on
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#216 » by JN » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:10 am

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JN wrote:I have no issue in claiming that Maxey is better than Precious now and likely in the future. That being said Precious is still a good piece to have moving forward.

I do have an issue in just accepting the "fact" that he was offered to us.

Wow a reasonable rational comment. Kudos.

Yeah we'll never know for sure who offered what.


My thought on the Maxey deal is that Morey likely did not want to trade him -- which turns out to be a good call on his part as much as I slag the guy. All speculation of course.

He didn't want to look bad when the trade did not go down, so he sent out all kinds of info to the media as to what was asked for and offered. This is just common GM gamesmanship if we want to have some honest discourse.

I have called both Masai and Morey out for not getting a deal done for 2 pieces -- any combo of Thybulle, Maxey, 2 first rounders. If the deal on the table was Thybulle and a first, I think I prefer the Achiuwa return and I was wrong.

If it was Maxey so be it, we lost out on the deal in the end -- but instead let's focus on having 6 core pieces to the team that are:
1) All on good or fair contracts
2) 4 players on an ascending curve, 2 at their prime level for at least 2-3 years.
3) A future star and a current All-Star in Pascal.
4) Having a team that is in a flexible position to grow from within, by re-tool trade, or by consolidation trade.

We are well positioned.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#217 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:14 am

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Los_29 wrote:
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I mean he's been outplaying everyone on our team in these 2 games, like I said when you mocked me. Maxey could of been our 2nd best player within a year or 2.


Those are the perks of being a 3rd/4th option on a team with an MVP candidate and one of the best offensive players of all-time.

And no, that statement along with many others that you have made are just flat out wrong. There is simply no denying that. The list of hot takes that you've made are substantial. :lol:

Sounds like excuses to me but that's what you've been doing all year when it comes to Maxey lol.


Not excuses, just facts. His TS% before they got Harden was far lower than what it was after they got him. Saying he would be our 2nd best player is an absurd statement but one that no longer surprises me considering some of the hot takes that I have seen on here.

You have to do more in this league than just score at good efficiency. Norm Powell also scores with great efficiency and he got traded to the Clippers for literally nothing and comes off the bench. Collin Sexton scored 24ppg on good efficiency last year and yet Cavs were reportedly shopping him and there were few teams that were interested.

I think Maxey has contributed a lot more than anyone expected and deserves praise for that. But if he wasn't linked to us in anyway, no one on here would think anything of him. Everyone knows what Maxey can and cannot do.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#218 » by bball4life » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:27 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Those are the perks of being a 3rd/4th option on a team with an MVP candidate and one of the best offensive players of all-time.

And no, that statement along with many others that you have made are just flat out wrong. There is simply no denying that. The list of hot takes that you've made are substantial. :lol:

Sounds like excuses to me but that's what you've been doing all year when it comes to Maxey lol.


Not excuses, just facts. His TS% before they got Harden was far lower than what it was after they got him. Saying he would be our 2nd best player is an absurd statement but one that no longer surprises me considering some of the hot takes that I have seen on here.

You have to do more in this league than just score at good efficiency. Norm Powell also scores with great efficiency and he got traded to the Clippers for literally nothing and comes off the bench. Collin Sexton scored 24ppg on good efficiency last year and yet Cavs were reportedly shopping him and there were few teams that were interested.

I think Maxey has contributed a lot more than anyone expected and deserves praise for that. But if he wasn't linked to us in anyway, no one on here would think anything of him. Everyone knows what Maxey can and cannot do.

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Post#219 » by Los_29 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:34 am

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Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Sounds like excuses to me but that's what you've been doing all year when it comes to Maxey lol.


Not excuses, just facts. His TS% before they got Harden was far lower than what it was after they got him. Saying he would be our 2nd best player is an absurd statement but one that no longer surprises me considering some of the hot takes that I have seen on here.

You have to do more in this league than just score at good efficiency. Norm Powell also scores with great efficiency and he got traded to the Clippers for literally nothing and comes off the bench. Collin Sexton scored 24ppg on good efficiency last year and yet Cavs were reportedly shopping him and there were few teams that were interested.

I think Maxey has contributed a lot more than anyone expected and deserves praise for that. But if he wasn't linked to us in anyway, no one on here would think anything of him. Everyone knows what Maxey can and cannot do.

You’re going to die on this hill aren’t you? God bless you.


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To be fair, that is completely unrelated to the main points of the thread. :lol:
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Post#220 » by dgr81 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:34 am

bball4life wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Sounds like excuses to me but that's what you've been doing all year when it comes to Maxey lol.


Not excuses, just facts. His TS% before they got Harden was far lower than what it was after they got him. Saying he would be our 2nd best player is an absurd statement but one that no longer surprises me considering some of the hot takes that I have seen on here.

You have to do more in this league than just score at good efficiency. Norm Powell also scores with great efficiency and he got traded to the Clippers for literally nothing and comes off the bench. Collin Sexton scored 24ppg on good efficiency last year and yet Cavs were reportedly shopping him and there were few teams that were interested.

I think Maxey has contributed a lot more than anyone expected and deserves praise for that. But if he wasn't linked to us in anyway, no one on here would think anything of him. Everyone knows what Maxey can and cannot do.

You’re going to die on this hill aren’t you? God bless you.


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