Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[CANsportsguru]

GTJ makes sense only to a few teams thatnhage their 2023 pick this yr. Portland, washington dont. Ny and phx makes the most sense.

Phx likely declines but id do this.

That's a horrible trade for us. Not expecting a kings ransom for GTJ but he's worth a hell a lot more than that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors are in the mix for him at the deadline.

[Rapsfan07]

GTJ makes sense only to a few teams thatnhage their 2023 pick this yr. Portland, washington dont. Ny and phx makes the most sense.

Phx likely declines but id do this.

That's a horrible trade for us. Not expecting a kings ransom for GTJ but he's worth a hell a lot more than that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors are in the mix for him at the deadline.

It's not too far off. I think Shamet, Crowder and a top 10 or lotto protected first is around fair value for Trent to the Suns. Crowder can also be re-routed for additional assets if we'd like.

[Sidthekid87]

Since when do 20 point 23 year olds grow on trees. Why would we be trading gtj for shamet and Jae Crowder? If we trading him I'd look to gstate for a Kuminga Wiseman package. I think wiseman sucks but he is a 21 year old 7'0 with big Time athletic ability. Maybe we can tune him. And Kuminga is also really raw but his ceiling could be real high.

[Green Backpack]

Since when do 20 point 23 year olds grow on trees. Why would we be trading gtj for shamet and Jae Crowder? If we trading him I'd look to gstate for a Kuminga Wiseman package. I think wiseman sucks but he is a 21 year old 7'0 with big Time athletic ability. Maybe we can tune him. And Kuminga is also really raw but his ceiling could be real high.

His value is reduced due to his contract status. His comparable, whether you agree with it or not, will be Herro's extension (ie. 4/130). Does a team paying Trent Jr $30+ million a year sound like a contender? Probably not.

[WuTang_CMB]

I wouldnt trade GTJ to warriors for the simple fact he’d average 40 a game in their system

[WuTang_CMB]

Dyson is 19 years old and is showing a lot of poise, I would take the next 12 years of Dysons career for the inconvenience of Grahams 12M a year for the next 2.

Okay but then what are we getting for Vanvleet?

Obviously made by a Raptors fan but interesting foundation of a trade.

https://raptorsrapture.com/2023/01/11/raptors-pelicans-trade-sends-fred-vanvleet-new-orleans/

NO has no reason to do that trade.

[Rapsfan07]

Since when do 20 point 23 year olds grow on trees. Why would we be trading gtj for shamet and Jae Crowder? If we trading him I'd look to gstate for a Kuminga Wiseman package. I think wiseman sucks but he is a 21 year old 7'0 with big Time athletic ability. Maybe we can tune him. And Kuminga is also really raw but his ceiling could be real high.

His value is reduced due to his contract status. His comparable, whether you agree with it or not, will be Herro's extension (ie. 4/130). Does a team paying Trent Jr $30+ million a year sound like a contender? Probably not.

Correct. And although I don't think Kuminga and Wiseman are the greatest prospects, outside of their core, those guys are GSW's biggest trade chips. I can't see them being willing to move them for half a year of Trent. They're already deep in the tax as is without having to worry about re-upping Trent and have plenty of quality guards as it is.

NY could be a viable destination as well and I think a package including Quickley and/or Grimes could be nice. They have picks as well if we wanted to make something around those. But we'd have to be willing to take on some dead salary in order to make the numbers work, which I really don't want to do.

[Duffman100]

Okay but then what are we getting for Vanvleet?

Obviously made by a Raptors fan but interesting foundation of a trade.

https://raptorsrapture.com/2023/01/11/raptors-pelicans-trade-sends-fred-vanvleet-new-orleans/

NO has no reason to do that trade.

That trade is so lopsided in our favour it's laughable. They're giving up a 1st on top of it? Cmon...

[WuTang_CMB]

Obviously made by a Raptors fan but interesting foundation of a trade.

https://raptorsrapture.com/2023/01/11/raptors-pelicans-trade-sends-fred-vanvleet-new-orleans/

NO has no reason to do that trade.

That trade is so lopsided in our favour it's laughable. They're giving up a 1st on top of it? Cmon...

Their team is loaded. They likely make a fringe move and that's it for this year and just do their best in playoffs.

[TorontoBarneys]

I'd gladly do Fred for Graham, Daniels, and Murphy III (0 picks) but even that is likely too much value to get back for FVV.

[Pointgod]

I'd gladly do Fred for Graham, Daniels, and Murphy III (0 picks) but even that is likely too much value to get back for FVV.

Yeah I don’t see the Pelicans giving up Daniels for Fred although he’s exactly the type of long guard that Masai and Bobby covet. I could see Trey Murphy and a Milwaukee pick. I’d love to get Daniels, but Pelicans are going to hold onto him unless it’s for a bonified allstar. I could see a similar trade with substitute Gary Trent Jr for Murphy, Kira Lewis, Graham and a pick. GTJ seems like a really good fit with his shooting and shot creation and activity of defence. Hell I’d do the deal without Murphy if it came down to it.

[Psubs]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duartch01.html

What about Chris Duarte for Malachi Flynn and Juancho Hernangomez?

PG FVV - Barnes - Dowtin
SG OG - Trent - Banton
SF Siakam - OG - Duarte
PF Barnes - Thaddeus
C Precious - Koloko/Boucher

[alpngso]

Lol if the Pels are giving up Daniels and Murphy III, they better get OG, not Fred who can walk as FA. Already proven young commodities on rookie contracts.

[alpngso]

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To Grizzlies: Anunoby, Thaddeus Young (two years, $16.3 million remaining, $1 million guaranteed for 2023-24)
To Raptors: Dillon Brooks (one year, $11.4 million), Ziaire Williams (three years, 15.35 million, likely RFA in 2026), Danny Green (one year, $10 million), 2023 1st round pick and EITHER 2024 1st round pick (belonging to Golden State) OR 2025 1st round pick (belonging to Memphis)

To Kings: Anunoby
To Raptors: Richaun Holmes (three years, $36.16), Davion Mitchell (three years, $16.35 million), better of Indiana/Sacramento 2023 2nd round picks, 2026, 2028 1st round picks*

To Knicks: Anunoby, Khem Birch (two years, $13.65 million)
To Raptors: Obi Toppin (two years, $12.19 million, RFA in 2024), Evan Fournier (two years, $36.85 million, plus team option for 2024-25), better of Knicks or Mavericks 2023 1st round picks, 2024 Pistons 2nd round, 2025 Knicks 1st round pick

To Pelicans: Anunoby
To Raptors: Dyson Daniels (four years, $25.06 million, RFA in 2026), Devonte Graham (three years, $36.3 million), 2023 1st round pick, better of Lakers/Bucks 2024 1st round picks

To Suns: Anunoby
To Raptors: Landry Shamet (four years, $42.5 million), Dario Saric (one year, $9.24 million), 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks


To Suns: Siakam and Birch
To Toronto: Deandre Ayton (four years, $132.93 million), Jae Crowder (one year, $10.18 million ), 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks, rights to 1st round pick swap in 2026*

To Grizzlies: Siakam
To Raptors: Tyus Jones (two years, $29 million), Danny Green, Jake LaRavia (four years, $14,76 million, RFA in 2026), Ziaire Williams, 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks, 2024 1 round pick (Golden State), 2024 2nd round pick (Toronto)

To Warriors: Siakam
To Raptors: Draymond Green (one year, $25.81 million, plus player option for 2023-24), Jonathan Kuminga (three years, $19.39 million, RFA in 2025), Moses Moody (three years, $13.46 million, RFA in 2025), 2026, 2028 1st round picks, picks swaps in 2025 and 2027

[Smalltown]

GTJ makes sense only to a few teams thatnhage their 2023 pick this yr. Portland, washington dont. Ny and phx makes the most sense.

Phx likely declines but id do this.

We should decline not phx

100% we decline.

[WuTang_CMB]

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To Grizzlies: Anunoby, Thaddeus Young (two years, $16.3 million remaining, $1 million guaranteed for 2023-24)
To Raptors: Dillon Brooks (one year, $11.4 million), Ziaire Williams (three years, 15.35 million, likely RFA in 2026), Danny Green (one year, $10 million), 2023 1st round pick and EITHER 2024 1st round pick (belonging to Golden State) OR 2025 1st round pick (belonging to Memphis)

To Kings: Anunoby
To Raptors: Richaun Holmes (three years, $36.16), Davion Mitchell (three years, $16.35 million), better of Indiana/Sacramento 2023 2nd round picks, 2026, 2028 1st round picks*

To Knicks: Anunoby, Khem Birch (two years, $13.65 million)
To Raptors: Obi Toppin (two years, $12.19 million, RFA in 2024), Evan Fournier (two years, $36.85 million, plus team option for 2024-25), better of Knicks or Mavericks 2023 1st round picks, 2024 Pistons 2nd round, 2025 Knicks 1st round pick

To Pelicans: Anunoby
To Raptors: Dyson Daniels (four years, $25.06 million, RFA in 2026), Devonte Graham (three years, $36.3 million), 2023 1st round pick, better of Lakers/Bucks 2024 1st round picks

To Suns: Anunoby
To Raptors: Landry Shamet (four years, $42.5 million), Dario Saric (one year, $9.24 million), 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks


To Suns: Siakam and Birch
To Toronto: Deandre Ayton (four years, $132.93 million), Jae Crowder (one year, $10.18 million ), 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks, rights to 1st round pick swap in 2026*

To Grizzlies: Siakam
To Raptors: Tyus Jones (two years, $29 million), Danny Green, Jake LaRavia (four years, $14,76 million, RFA in 2026), Ziaire Williams, 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks, 2024 1 round pick (Golden State), 2024 2nd round pick (Toronto)

To Warriors: Siakam
To Raptors: Draymond Green (one year, $25.81 million, plus player option for 2023-24), Jonathan Kuminga (three years, $19.39 million, RFA in 2025), Moses Moody (three years, $13.46 million, RFA in 2025), 2026, 2028 1st round picks, picks swaps in 2025 and 2027

Screech strikes out again. This guy on crack or what

[MoMan24]

If I'm trading OG to the kings I'm getting Murray/Mitchell and a pick. If I'm trading Siakam to the Girzzles I'm taking Jackson Jr. and picks. I'm not taking scraps and picks that probably won't be in the lottery.

[Smalltown]

Screech strikes out again. This guy on crack or what

Absolutely terrible stuff. If those are the offers on table Toronto would 100% stand pat.

[Raptorfan2012]

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To Grizzlies: Anunoby, Thaddeus Young (two years, $16.3 million remaining, $1 million guaranteed for 2023-24)
To Raptors: Dillon Brooks (one year, $11.4 million), Ziaire Williams (three years, 15.35 million, likely RFA in 2026), Danny Green (one year, $10 million), 2023 1st round pick and EITHER 2024 1st round pick (belonging to Golden State) OR 2025 1st round pick (belonging to Memphis)

To Kings: Anunoby
To Raptors: Richaun Holmes (three years, $36.16), Davion Mitchell (three years, $16.35 million), better of Indiana/Sacramento 2023 2nd round picks, 2026, 2028 1st round picks*

To Knicks: Anunoby, Khem Birch (two years, $13.65 million)
To Raptors: Obi Toppin (two years, $12.19 million, RFA in 2024), Evan Fournier (two years, $36.85 million, plus team option for 2024-25), better of Knicks or Mavericks 2023 1st round picks, 2024 Pistons 2nd round, 2025 Knicks 1st round pick

To Pelicans: Anunoby
To Raptors: Dyson Daniels (four years, $25.06 million, RFA in 2026), Devonte Graham (three years, $36.3 million), 2023 1st round pick, better of Lakers/Bucks 2024 1st round picks

To Suns: Anunoby
To Raptors: Landry Shamet (four years, $42.5 million), Dario Saric (one year, $9.24 million), 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks


To Suns: Siakam and Birch
To Toronto: Deandre Ayton (four years, $132.93 million), Jae Crowder (one year, $10.18 million ), 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks, rights to 1st round pick swap in 2026*

To Grizzlies: Siakam
To Raptors: Tyus Jones (two years, $29 million), Danny Green, Jake LaRavia (four years, $14,76 million, RFA in 2026), Ziaire Williams, 2023, 2025, 2027 1st round picks, 2024 1 round pick (Golden State), 2024 2nd round pick (Toronto)

To Warriors: Siakam
To Raptors: Draymond Green (one year, $25.81 million, plus player option for 2023-24), Jonathan Kuminga (three years, $19.39 million, RFA in 2025), Moses Moody (three years, $13.46 million, RFA in 2025), 2026, 2028 1st round picks, picks swaps in 2025 and 2027

Kings and Pelicans proposal look okay but I need one more prospect from the Kings to make it work.

With the Warriors, I would add Boucher and they add Wiseman. Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody with Barnes would be quite an interesting young core to watch.

[Morris_Shatford]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duartch01.html

What about Chris Duarte for Malachi Flynn and Juancho Hernangomez?

PG FVV - Barnes - Dowtin
SG OG - Trent - Banton
SF Siakam - OG - Duarte
PF Barnes - Thaddeus
C Precious - Koloko/Boucher

Having no idea how the Pacers value Duarte and if the value is close;
I would do this 100%.