Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[Psubs]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

Jaylen Brown, Robert Williams and two future 1st picks for Durant and Day'Ron Sharpe?

[ATLTimekeeper]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

That's not real. Nets aren't going to move on from Kyrie just to bring in Kyrie Lite.

[SurgeIblocka]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

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[ItsDanger]

How was he suppose to get value for Kawhi and Danny Green post championship?

Precious for a SnT is a really decent return.

Yes, 5 years. What have our picks been? Where have they been? The only high pick he had he delivered on. He had to sell a lot of

He sold those picks for money 99% of the time. Cash considerations over and over. Trading 1sts to get off carroll. giving 1sts to the spurs to save some money. I'll give him credit for having to deal w cheap owners but he came into a good situation. JV, Lowry and DD big three and Ross who had lots of trade value. Rudy Gay had trade value. Had the former #1 pick on top of that. He had assets

100% accurate. Maybe we need a GM who knows how to stock the cupboards with new assets. Not waste time on projects.

[douggood]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

Where did you see this?

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[baller16]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

Jaylen Brown, Robert Williams and two future 1st picks for Durant and Day'Ron Sharpe?

Its BS

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[Psubs]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

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[Madvillainy2004]

He sold those picks for money 99% of the time. Cash considerations over and over. Trading 1sts to get off carroll. giving 1sts to the spurs to save some money. I'll give him credit for having to deal w cheap owners but he came into a good situation. JV, Lowry and DD big three and Ross who had lots of trade value. Rudy Gay had trade value. Had the former #1 pick on top of that. He had assets

It's not like he traded lottery picks. Here's the truth about first round picks Masai traded:

1) To get Ibaka he traded the less favourable of the 2017 LAC & TOR picks, which ended up being the 25th pick (Anžejs Pasečņiks). We kept the 23rd pick (acquired from the Vasquez trade) who became OG.

2) To move Carroll he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Džanan Musa). Who?

3) To get Kawhi he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Keldon Johnson). I think we came out as winners in this trade.

4) To move Dragic he traded a lottery protected pick that ended up being the 20th pick (Malaki Branham). We got Achiuwa in return who was the 20th pick in the previous draft so pretty much a wash as far as number of draft picks; Precious looks a lot better as a prospect.

None of the 2nd round picks ever traded amounted to anything so I won't go through them.

Lmao saying Masai walked into a good situation is so crazy as someone that followed the team then. He had Bargnani's awful contract, Lowry post 12-13 season wasn't seen as much more than a below avg starting PG, DD development had stagnated, Gay wasnt exaclty sought after (also overpaid), Ross had an ok rookie season, he didn't have a first round pick his first year, JV was a solid prospect and that mess of a Landry Fields contract.That was the ultimate treadmill situation. It looks waaay better because of what Masai did.

Now Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick + Chris Bosh. And all he got out of that was 3 playoff wins across 6 seasons.

[cbosh4mvp]

Jaylen Brown isnt an ideal target for BKN. Another unstable nutcase who went on record critisizing those who critisized Kyrie.

PHX is not giving up Booker so they aren't getting KD. Bridges/Ayton isnt enough, especially when Claxton is having a breakout year.

MIA can only offer Herro, I don't think thats appealing. Herro is at best a 6th man.

I may be a homer but TOR can make a solid offer around FVV/OG + Picks. Or Trent/OG + Picks.

[agkagk]

He sold those picks for money 99% of the time. Cash considerations over and over. Trading 1sts to get off carroll. giving 1sts to the spurs to save some money. I'll give him credit for having to deal w cheap owners but he came into a good situation. JV, Lowry and DD big three and Ross who had lots of trade value. Rudy Gay had trade value. Had the former #1 pick on top of that. He had assets

It's not like he traded lottery picks. Here's the truth about first round picks Masai traded:

1) To get Ibaka he traded the less favourable of the 2017 LAC & TOR picks, which ended up being the 25th pick (Anžejs Pasečņiks). We kept the 23rd pick (acquired from the Vasquez trade) who became OG.

2) To move Carroll he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Džanan Musa). Who?

3) To get Kawhi he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Keldon Johnson). I think we came out as winners in this trade.

4) To move Dragic he traded a lottery protected pick that ended up being the 20th pick (Malaki Branham). We got Achiuwa in return who was the 20th pick in the previous draft so pretty much a wash as far as number of draft picks; Precious looks a lot better as a prospect.

None of the 2nd round picks ever traded amounted to anything so I won't go through them.

Lmao saying Masai walked into a good situation is so crazy as someone that followed the team then. He had Bargnani's awful contract, Lowry post 12-13 season wasn't seen as much more than a below avg starting PG, DD development had stagnated, Gay wasnt exaclty sought after (also overpaid), Ross had an ok rookie season, he didn't have a first round pick his first year, JV was a solid prospect and that mess of a Landry Fields contract.That was the ultimate treadmill situation. It looks waaay better because of what Masai did.

Now Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick + Chris Bosh. And all he got out of that was 3 playoff wins across 6 seasons.

when you wrote " Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick" right away I thought for sure you were talking about philly.

Its amazing, colangelo literally did it twice!!!!!

[alpngso]

Durant might be moved and the Celtics are interested! So Jaylen Brown +

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wait we considering SAS a source now? lol
He called Demar to Lakers was a done deal

[SurgeIblocka]

If KD is really on the market, why wouldn’t Nets prefer Siakam + OG over Jaylen. Siakam probably would be easier to re-sign than Jaylen Brown.

[ChillPill]

I think the Raps are in pretty good position moving forward. We have some young players, good trade assets and all our picks. It would have been nice to have one more young player hit - like drafting Bane or Kessler - but the draft is hit or miss and those were low picks.

I was just thinking though that the reason we are still in good position, despite the post-championship deterioration, is that Masai didn't trade tons of picks / our future in the Kawhi deal. Which has been the case for every star-player deal since.

I think the criticism of management mostly comes from people who compare what management has done to some imaginary perfect vision in their minds. An ideal.

[SurgeIblocka]

Jaylen Brown isnt an ideal target for BKN. Another unstable nutcase who went on record critisizing those who critisized Kyrie.

PHX is not giving up Booker so they aren't getting KD. Bridges/Ayton isnt enough, especially when Claxton is having a breakout year.

MIA can only offer Herro, I don't think thats appealing. Herro is at best a 6th man.

I may be a homer but TOR can make a solid offer around FVV/OG + Picks. Or Trent/OG + Picks.

I think a trade around Pascal and OG would entice them more , both wont be free agents this summer, and if they traded them next year individually, you would get more value than just trading an expiring Brown. Plus the picks we have are better than any picks the Celtics would have. I think Raptors could be front runners if Kd actually does hit the market

[Madvillainy2004]

It's not like he traded lottery picks. Here's the truth about first round picks Masai traded:

1) To get Ibaka he traded the less favourable of the 2017 LAC & TOR picks, which ended up being the 25th pick (Anžejs Pasečņiks). We kept the 23rd pick (acquired from the Vasquez trade) who became OG.

2) To move Carroll he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Džanan Musa). Who?

3) To get Kawhi he traded what ended up being the 29th pick (Keldon Johnson). I think we came out as winners in this trade.

4) To move Dragic he traded a lottery protected pick that ended up being the 20th pick (Malaki Branham). We got Achiuwa in return who was the 20th pick in the previous draft so pretty much a wash as far as number of draft picks; Precious looks a lot better as a prospect.

None of the 2nd round picks ever traded amounted to anything so I won't go through them.

Lmao saying Masai walked into a good situation is so crazy as someone that followed the team then. He had Bargnani's awful contract, Lowry post 12-13 season wasn't seen as much more than a below avg starting PG, DD development had stagnated, Gay wasnt exaclty sought after (also overpaid), Ross had an ok rookie season, he didn't have a first round pick his first year, JV was a solid prospect and that mess of a Landry Fields contract.That was the ultimate treadmill situation. It looks waaay better because of what Masai did.

Now Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick + Chris Bosh. And all he got out of that was 3 playoff wins across 6 seasons.

when you wrote " Colangelo stepped into a situation with amazing assests basically the best situation. Cap Space + the #1 overall pick" right away I thought for sure you were talking about philly.

Its amazing, colangelo literally did it twice!!!!!

Literally Presti set the table wonderfully for whomever stepped in and BC found a way to mess it up impressive levels if incompetence.

[DelAbbot]

I've been fairly critical about MU in the recent past and I do think that this board does have rose-colored glasses on when it comes to him. I also do agree that ever since winning the chip, he's been quite lackluster, with the exception of going against the grain and choosing Barnes over Suggs.

But there's no way he could have gotten value in a deal for Kawhi and Green. The purpose of that deal was to take ONE shot at the chip and if we failed, hopefully resign those guys. Thankfully, it worked out and we got it on the first try.

I think losing Ibaka and Gasol for nothing is fair criticism.

I believe he got greedy on the Lowry deal and ended up having to take Precious. Not horrible haul for a guy you were going to lose anyway and I can't prove there was definitely more on the table but still.

This deadline and offseason will be HUGE. It will be very hard to defend him if both OG and FVV are still on the team after the deadline, though I know there will be those who will try. There always is.

Yes, not trading Lowry before Tampa season began or at the deadline was definitely a loss, no matter how much people praise Precious Achiuwa. Let's hope Masai doesn't let his stubbornness make the same mistake again with Fred at this trade deadline

[DelAbbot]

Raptors will do nothing or double down and trade a future first and try to make the play in.

to make the play-in we don't need any help - our schedule is 9th easiest rest of the season.

[alpngso]

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Toronto Raptors receive: Mitchell Robinson, NYK 2023 first-round pick (unprotected)
Knicks receive: OG Anunoby
(Submitted by Jeff B.)

Who says no? Everyone.

Let’s start with the Raptors’ side of this.

As The Athletic recently detailed, it’s a seller’s market. Not many teams are looking to get worse, which means if Toronto chooses to say goodbye to Anunoby, who has another season remaining on his contract after this one, then it could receive a haul in return.

But one first-round pick from a possible playoff team is not a haul. It will cost far more to land Anunoby.

The Memphis Grizzlies can offer up to four first-rounders. So can the Phoenix Suns, who just missed out on Kyrie Irving and are clearly trying to get better before the deadline. The New Orleans Pelicans have all of their own first-rounders as well as ones from the Los Angeles Lakers and Milwaukee Bucks.

The Knicks have eight first-round picks available to trade: four of their own as well as four protected ones from other teams. The Raptors wouldn’t settle for only one of them, especially in this market.

Anunoby is possibly the top role player in the Eastern Conference. In a world where Derrick White went for a first-round pick and a first-round swap last winter, the Raptors’ 3-and-D savant isn’t going for less — no matter how good Mitchell Robinson has become … which brings us to the New York side of this.

If an Anunoby-to-the-Knicks deal were to go down, I doubt Robinson would be a part of it, even though Toronto could use a center and Robinson, with extreme length and athleticism, is very much the Raptors’ type. The shot-blocking big man is simply too important for the Knicks, who build their defense around rim protection.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Toronto Raptors receive: Mitchell Robinson, NYK 2023 first-round pick (unprotected)
Knicks receive: OG Anunoby
(Submitted by Jeff B.)

Who says no? Everyone.

Let’s start with the Raptors’ side of this.

As The Athletic recently detailed, it’s a seller’s market. Not many teams are looking to get worse, which means if Toronto chooses to say goodbye to Anunoby, who has another season remaining on his contract after this one, then it could receive a haul in return.

But one first-round pick from a possible playoff team is not a haul. It will cost far more to land Anunoby.

The Memphis Grizzlies can offer up to four first-rounders. So can the Phoenix Suns, who just missed out on Kyrie Irving and are clearly trying to get better before the deadline. The New Orleans Pelicans have all of their own first-rounders as well as ones from the Los Angeles Lakers and Milwaukee Bucks.

The Knicks have eight first-round picks available to trade: four of their own as well as four protected ones from other teams. The Raptors wouldn’t settle for only one of them, especially in this market.

Anunoby is possibly the top role player in the Eastern Conference. In a world where Derrick White went for a first-round pick and a first-round swap last winter, the Raptors’ 3-and-D savant isn’t going for less — no matter how good Mitchell Robinson has become … which brings us to the New York side of this.

If an Anunoby-to-the-Knicks deal were to go down, I doubt Robinson would be a part of it, even though Toronto could use a center and Robinson, with extreme length and athleticism, is very much the Raptors’ type. The shot-blocking big man is simply too important for the Knicks, who build their defense around rim protection.

Lol
horrid deal.

[SurgeIblocka]

Ok now if KD really is available we have to make an offer of Pascal, OG, and 2 1st rounders including this years pick. I dont think Boston can beat that, can they?