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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:43 pm
by Basketball_Jones
bobbyp3588 wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:We just better tank next year even harder is all I say & I don’t believe for a second that we will because MLSE will not settle for not selling tickets so I expect to have a disappointing pick in the 13-16 range next year.


Of course we’re not tanking next year. We never were going to. Frankly, it wouldn’t even be possible with IQ, RJ, Gradey, and Scottie. We’re practically a shoe in for the play in at worst. Yet we have absolute **** morons clamouring for another tank year. How dumb can one be?

Maybe we should trade all of our assets for future picks and maybe try to be competitive in the 2030’s, cuz RJ’s not it, IQ’s garbage and Scottie is never going to be a #1 on a winning team. And Scottie could net us a few future firsts. Let’s do that cause Scottie is leaving for nothing otherwise, anyway. Right? Right?

GTFO


This is why I wanted to convey the pick next year. Barring injuries we are probably in the 11-9th range of seeding and fighting for play-in.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:50 pm
by DreamTeam09
Basketball_Jones wrote:
bobbyp3588 wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:We just better tank next year even harder is all I say & I don’t believe for a second that we will because MLSE will not settle for not selling tickets so I expect to have a disappointing pick in the 13-16 range next year.


Of course we’re not tanking next year. We never were going to. Frankly, it wouldn’t even be possible with IQ, RJ, Gradey, and Scottie. We’re practically a shoe in for the play in at worst. Yet we have absolute **** morons clamouring for another tank year. How dumb can one be?

Maybe we should trade all of our assets for future picks and maybe try to be competitive in the 2030’s, cuz RJ’s not it, IQ’s garbage and Scottie is never going to be a #1 on a winning team. And Scottie could net us a few future firsts. Let’s do that cause Scottie is leaving for nothing otherwise, anyway. Right? Right?

GTFO


This is why I wanted to convey the pick next year. Barring injuries we are probably in the 11-9th range of seeding and fighting for play-in.


The 10th pick just won the lottery...
The concept of being the worst in order to be the best is just simply no longer the case.

A luxury tax team just won the lottery

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:54 pm
by wegotthabeet
WuTang_OG wrote:best part was seeing the aura

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keep that same energy for next year when they move up to 1.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:55 pm
by aminiaturebuddha
To be honest, the "luck" that might come back to bite us the most is having the #19 pick instead of #16 based on the coin flip tiebreakers.

Some of my favourite players in this draft are in the mid-1st range, but I'm starting to worry that once teams get a good look at them in workouts and the draft combine, guys like Jared McCain, Tristan da Silva, DaRon Holmes, and Jaylon Tyson might be gone, and people with way more question marks will fall to 19.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:56 pm
by Yallbecrazy
alpngso wrote:ESPN's latest mock post lottery

18. Orlando Magic
Tristan da Silva
Colorado
SF/PF
Age: 22.9
The Magic ranked among the worst 3-point shooting teams this season and will look to improve in that area this offseason. Da Silva, a plug-and-play option who turns 23 on May 15, brings coveted defensive versatility and feel for the game. He also doesn't need plays called for him, which could be attractive operating alongside existing young stars Franz Wagner and Paolo Banchero. -- Givony

19. Toronto Raptors (via Indiana Pacers)
Kyle Filipowski
Duke
PF/C
Age: 20.5
The Raptors can add size with Filipowski, who has one of the wider ranges among projected first-rounders. His skill level and offensive versatility could make him a unique player if he can improve his perimeter shooting. After making strides defensively last season, he'll likely have to be deployed alongside a rim protector, making him more of a specific fit for teams willing to play with two bigs. His ability to play all over the floor, pass and potentially create mismatches at his size makes him intriguing for the long term. -- Woo


20. Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyler Smith
G League Ignite
SF/PF
Age: 19.5
The Cavs don't have a true stretch-4 on the roster and could choose to develop Smith into that mold, following a successful season in the G League that helped clarify his role at the NBA level. Smith likely needs another season to develop physically and get accustomed to the speed of the league, but he looks to be on a positive trajectory. He has plenty of room for growth as a shooter and should be able to pack on strength to his frame, giving him a pathway as a useful role player. -- Woo

21. New Orleans Pelicans (via Milwaukee Bucks)
Yves Missi
Baylor
C
Age: 19.9
New Orleans has a need for more athleticism at the 5, and while Missi would be a project, he might help address that in the long run. Missi's size, tools and flashes of scoring ability piqued enough interest from scouts to vault him into the draft, but there are some lingering questions about his overall feel and lack of high-level experience. He'd likely benefit from G League time, but the right organization might be able to mold him into a useful rim-running big. -- Woo

Utah Jazz (via Oklahoma City Thunder)
Kevin McCullar Jr.
Kansas
SF
Age: 23.1
McCullar is still dealing with the remnants of a knee injury that derailed the second half of his season, which might make it difficult for him to have as extensive a pre-draft process as teams might hope. Teams that dig into the tape will see McCullar is an excellent defender and passer and was shooting the ball as well as he ever had in his career before getting hurt. -- Givony

30. Boston Celtics
Juan Nunez
Ratiopharm Ulm
PG
Age: 19.9
Boston has an opportunity to affordably shore up its depth with this pick, presumably in search of a player who can help with its current run atop the East. The 19-year-old Nunez has excellent playmaking acumen and has put together a strong season in Germany, giving him a pathway to becoming a viable NBA contributor if he can make shots and defend at a high enough level. -- Woo

SECOND ROUND
31. Toronto Raptors (via Detroit Pistons)
Ryan Dunn | Virginia | SF | Age: 21.3

32. Utah Jazz (via Washington Wizards)
Jaylon Tyson | California | SG/SF | Age: 21.4

I got Kyle as a top 5 guy in this draft so I would be pleased with that. Still not terribly enamoured with him though, just at the top of a list of guys I'm meh on.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:57 pm
by wegotthabeet
Brinbe wrote:no using whining about it now. what's done is done. at this point, better to concentrate on reality. what players in that 19-31 range do people like? I know Carrington's gonna be on people's radars already.


they need guard depth badly.

would expect them to target one of:
McCain
Carter
Carrington
Collier

but who knows how the draft actually shakes out. this is that once in a decade draft that destroys people's mock drafts within the first 3 picks.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:00 pm
by WuTang_OG
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:02 pm
by Brinbe
wegotthabeet wrote:
Brinbe wrote:no using whining about it now. what's done is done. at this point, better to concentrate on reality. what players in that 19-31 range do people like? I know Carrington's gonna be on people's radars already.


they need guard depth badly.

would expect them to target one of:
McCain
Carter
Carrington
Collier

but who knows how the draft actually shakes out. this is that once in a decade draft that destroys people's mock drafts within the first 3 picks.

Yep, a big point with size to pair with IQ is easy to envision. But Scottie/IQ/RJ are pretty fungible where they could play up or down depending on what talent you put around them.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:04 pm
by Chandan
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:
bobbyp3588 wrote:
Of course we’re not tanking next year. We never were going to. Frankly, it wouldn’t even be possible with IQ, RJ, Gradey, and Scottie. We’re practically a shoe in for the play in at worst. Yet we have absolute **** morons clamouring for another tank year. How dumb can one be?

Maybe we should trade all of our assets for future picks and maybe try to be competitive in the 2030’s, cuz RJ’s not it, IQ’s garbage and Scottie is never going to be a #1 on a winning team. And Scottie could net us a few future firsts. Let’s do that cause Scottie is leaving for nothing otherwise, anyway. Right? Right?

GTFO


This is why I wanted to convey the pick next year. Barring injuries we are probably in the 11-9th range of seeding and fighting for play-in.


The 10th pick just won the lottery...
The concept of being the worst in order to be the best is just simply no longer the case.

A luxury tax team just won the lottery


No one has ever said that. It just helps a ton to game the system. If you want to play at a disadvantage sure you just get punished for it most of the time.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:08 pm
by Tom_Foolery
You'll never know when or where you'll find the next Jokic.

Who am I fooling? This ain't good.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:12 pm
by greekman
would rather have the pick next year and poetl is more valuable to the team than the 8th.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:16 pm
by 720
greekman wrote:would rather have the pick next year and poetl is more valuable to the team than the 8th.

He really isn’t, maybe to contenders that need a big to come off the bench for matchup situations.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:24 pm
by Psubs
greekman wrote:would rather have the pick next year and poetl is more valuable to the team than the 8th.


Could've just signed Poeltl in the summer.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:27 pm
by Harcore Fenton Mun
Poeltl hasn't actually done anything to help the W's.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:27 pm
by Rapsfan07
Welp, looks like we finally paid off the Kawhi debt. Hopefully now we can move forward

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:29 pm
by grant101
Psubs wrote:
greekman wrote:would rather have the pick next year and poetl is more valuable to the team than the 8th.


Could've just signed Poeltl in the summer.


It was a bad trade but this is not true. We had no cap space

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:29 pm
by Godaddycurse
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Poeltl hasn't actually done anything to help the W's.

720 wrote:
greekman wrote:would rather have the pick next year and poetl is more valuable to the team than the 8th.

He really isn’t, maybe to contenders that need a big to come off the bench for matchup situations.


His on-off is +9. We are terrible without him

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:30 pm
by Harcore Fenton Mun
Godaddycurse wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Poeltl hasn't actually done anything to help the W's.


His on-off is +9

25W's

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:34 pm
by 720
Godaddycurse wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Poeltl hasn't actually done anything to help the W's.

720 wrote:
greekman wrote:would rather have the pick next year and poetl is more valuable to the team than the 8th.

He really isn’t, maybe to contenders that need a big to come off the bench for matchup situations.


His on-off is +9. We are terrible without him

We’re ass with him, we’re losing anyways. He has no value for a rebuilding team.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:35 pm
by PhilBlackson
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:
bobbyp3588 wrote:
Of course we’re not tanking next year. We never were going to. Frankly, it wouldn’t even be possible with IQ, RJ, Gradey, and Scottie. We’re practically a shoe in for the play in at worst. Yet we have absolute **** morons clamouring for another tank year. How dumb can one be?

Maybe we should trade all of our assets for future picks and maybe try to be competitive in the 2030’s, cuz RJ’s not it, IQ’s garbage and Scottie is never going to be a #1 on a winning team. And Scottie could net us a few future firsts. Let’s do that cause Scottie is leaving for nothing otherwise, anyway. Right? Right?

GTFO


This is why I wanted to convey the pick next year. Barring injuries we are probably in the 11-9th range of seeding and fighting for play-in.


The 10th pick just won the lottery...
The concept of being the worst in order to be the best is just simply no longer the case.

A luxury tax team just won the lottery


The 10th pick is an obvious exception (their odds were so low but that was literally luck) not the rule so twisting that into a supposed positive is reaching at best.