Basketball_Jones wrote:Hart can’t guard or shoot in this series why is he out there for so long
Many on Knicks board asking the same
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Basketball_Jones wrote:Hart can’t guard or shoot in this series why is he out there for so long
Los_29 wrote:Series isn’t over but I think the Pacers and OKC are an incredible clash of styles.
Two teams that also didn’t tank for their best players. SGA was given to OKC and Pacers traded for Pascal and Haliburton.
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HumbleRen wrote:Los_29 wrote:Series isn’t over but I think the Pacers and OKC are an incredible clash of styles.
Two teams that also didn’t tank for their best players. SGA was given to OKC and Pacers traded for Pascal and Haliburton.
More importantly, 2 teams that didn’t try to hold on to their previous core until it was too late like we did.
They capitalized on trading PG and Russ at their peak value. Pacers capitalized on trading Sabonis at his peak value.
Fortune rewards progressive front offices.
HumbleRen wrote:Los_29 wrote:Series isn’t over but I think the Pacers and OKC are an incredible clash of styles.
Two teams that also didn’t tank for their best players. SGA was given to OKC and Pacers traded for Pascal and Haliburton.
More importantly, 2 teams that didn’t try to hold on to their previous core until it was too late like we did.
They capitalized on trading PG and Russ at their peak value. Pacers capitalized on trading Sabonis at his peak value.
Fortune rewards progressive front offices.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Los_29 wrote:Series isn’t over but I think the Pacers and OKC are an incredible clash of styles.
Two teams that also didn’t tank for their best players. SGA was given to OKC and Pacers traded for Pascal and Haliburton.
More importantly, 2 teams that didn’t try to hold on to their previous core until it was too late like we did.
They capitalized on trading PG and Russ at their peak value. Pacers capitalized on trading Sabonis at his peak value.
Fortune rewards progressive front offices.
PG asked out in OKC, same with Indiana. Both teams are basically built by Paul George being an honourable dude and letting their GMs get something for him. But we never had a player as good as PG to trade.
The Russ trade hasn't really been a factor in this current iteration of OKC. It's essentially Topic and some future 1sts and firsts that didn't convey.
HumbleRen wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:HumbleRen wrote:
More importantly, 2 teams that didn’t try to hold on to their previous core until it was too late like we did.
They capitalized on trading PG and Russ at their peak value. Pacers capitalized on trading Sabonis at his peak value.
Fortune rewards progressive front offices.
PG asked out in OKC, same with Indiana. Both teams are basically built by Paul George being an honourable dude and letting their GMs get something for him. But we never had a player as good as PG to trade.
The Russ trade hasn't really been a factor in this current iteration of OKC. It's essentially Topic and some future 1sts and firsts that didn't convey.
He only asked out because OKC traded Russ. That signalled the end of that core, naturally PG would ask to be traded after seeing Russ get traded.
Presti trading Russ was the catalyst for that rebuild. He extracted the maximum value from it.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:HumbleRen wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
PG asked out in OKC, same with Indiana. Both teams are basically built by Paul George being an honourable dude and letting their GMs get something for him. But we never had a player as good as PG to trade.
The Russ trade hasn't really been a factor in this current iteration of OKC. It's essentially Topic and some future 1sts and firsts that didn't convey.
He only asked out because OKC traded Russ. That signalled the end of that core, naturally PG would ask to be traded after seeing Russ get traded.
Presti trading Russ was the catalyst for that rebuild. He extracted the maximum value from it.
I think you have your timeline wrong. PG went first. He was the only guy that bit on Kawhi's offer to team up, and he said he had a pre-existing agreement that he would extend with OKC only if Presti would grant a trade request.
Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
ash_k wrote:Hard to believe that we are about to do OKC vs Pacers...very hard to believe...that is 2 years in row that Ant-Man showing Stamina issues deep in the playoffs (ankle or not). Randle, after early hopes, is now acting according to his true playoffs self.
On this board, in the past, there were a lot(a lot) of Randle vs Siakam being equivalent...well now we know who is leading his team in scoring ,in the playoffs up, one game-away from the NBA finals.
HumbleRen wrote:Los_29 wrote:Series isn’t over but I think the Pacers and OKC are an incredible clash of styles.
Two teams that also didn’t tank for their best players. SGA was given to OKC and Pacers traded for Pascal and Haliburton.
More importantly, 2 teams that didn’t try to hold on to their previous core until it was too late like we did.
They capitalized on trading PG and Russ at their peak value. Pacers capitalized on trading Sabonis at his peak value.
Fortune rewards progressive front offices.
mtcan wrote:ash_k wrote:Hard to believe that we are about to do OKC vs Pacers...very hard to believe...that is 2 years in row that Ant-Man showing Stamina issues deep in the playoffs (ankle or not). Randle, after early hopes, is now acting according to his true playoffs self.
On this board, in the past, there were a lot(a lot) of Randle vs Siakam being equivalent...well now we know who is leading his team in scoring ,in the playoffs up, one game-away from the NBA finals.
To be fair...Randle is experiencing a much more pesky and swarming defence against OKC than what Pascal is getting against NY which boggles the mind because the Knicks overpaid for the defensive duo or OG and and Mikal Bridges and Pascal can casually drop 30 on them without much effort.
Let's see how Pascal fares against OKC.
HumbleRen wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:HumbleRen wrote:
He only asked out because OKC traded Russ. That signalled the end of that core, naturally PG would ask to be traded after seeing Russ get traded.
Presti trading Russ was the catalyst for that rebuild. He extracted the maximum value from it.
I think you have your timeline wrong. PG went first. He was the only guy that bit on Kawhi's offer to team up, and he said he had a pre-existing agreement that he would extend with OKC only if Presti would grant a trade request.
I’m going by what PG said himself.
Maybe he’s lying but he said he was committed to staying in OKC long term but basically got intel from Russ that he was planning to leave.
mtcan wrote:ash_k wrote:Hard to believe that we are about to do OKC vs Pacers...very hard to believe...that is 2 years in row that Ant-Man showing Stamina issues deep in the playoffs (ankle or not). Randle, after early hopes, is now acting according to his true playoffs self.
On this board, in the past, there were a lot(a lot) of Randle vs Siakam being equivalent...well now we know who is leading his team in scoring ,in the playoffs up, one game-away from the NBA finals.
To be fair...Randle is experiencing a much more pesky and swarming defence against OKC than what Pascal is getting against NY which boggles the mind because the Knicks overpaid for the defensive duo or OG and and Mikal Bridges and Pascal can casually drop 30 on them without much effort.
Let's see how Pascal fares against OKC.
Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:HumbleRen wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
I think you have your timeline wrong. PG went first. He was the only guy that bit on Kawhi's offer to team up, and he said he had a pre-existing agreement that he would extend with OKC only if Presti would grant a trade request.
I’m going by what PG said himself.
Maybe he’s lying but he said he was committed to staying in OKC long term but basically got intel from Russ that he was planning to leave.
I mean, in both versions it's the players initiating the rebuild. How it actually worked was Paul George asked out first and then Russ was traded second. Both had term left. I think Russ was like 1 year into his max extension at the time.