2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9
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This will really solidify his stock IMO.
His highlights pop for his archetype.
There seems to be a large number of legitimate centers in this draft.
Players that can only play the 5:
Maluach
Beringer
Kalkbrenner
Zikarsky
Yang
Raynaud
Neiderhauser
Goldin
Plays the 5/Might play the 4:
Queen
Wolf
Sorber
Broome
Plays 4/Might play the 5:
Newell
Markovic
Does this seem abnormal to anyone else?
Seems like ALOT of bigs this draft.
Makes me think we'd be basically guaranteed to get the 7th or 8th best C off this list at 39.
There's a chance we get the 5th or 6th.
That's Newell/Sorber/Beringer territory.
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Man, we’re picking between Queen and Bryant I bet. That’s pretty damn good considering we dropped down to 9 and it was looking bleak. Looking like such a good draft.
2019 Eastern Conference All Stars
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
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I genuinely do have a ton of love for Queen...but I'm taking Carter Bryant and then finding a way to get back into the mid to early 20s to draft Yang (period).
If you develop Yang properly he might be just as good, if not better than Queen considering his size and Bryant could be exactly the type of SG/SF player that would both be a perfect fit with Scottie & BI on both ends of the court since he doesn't command the ball, is excellent off ball with real potential to grow on ball, good passer so will undoubtedly fit into the system and will also get BI some incredibly important rest time to be a backup SF as needed and won't be a little too small to play the position like all the other wings on the team.
Obv by drafting him that makes Ochai (more likely) or Gradey an available trade chip (if needed, we might be able to sell a late 1st team on just the money savings of a higher 2nd + cash and/or an additional future 2nd). But I'd fully be willing to trade Ochai for Yang and I really do like Ochai but Bryant would be an upgrade in every way (especially size), plus more upside & that maaaay be the case for Yang and Queen, Yang reminds me so much of Gasol offensively. Sounds crazy now but I really do think our developmental staff can turn each of those guys into really damn good players...
I'd only take Queen if I knew we couldn't get another late 1st.
If you develop Yang properly he might be just as good, if not better than Queen considering his size and Bryant could be exactly the type of SG/SF player that would both be a perfect fit with Scottie & BI on both ends of the court since he doesn't command the ball, is excellent off ball with real potential to grow on ball, good passer so will undoubtedly fit into the system and will also get BI some incredibly important rest time to be a backup SF as needed and won't be a little too small to play the position like all the other wings on the team.
Obv by drafting him that makes Ochai (more likely) or Gradey an available trade chip (if needed, we might be able to sell a late 1st team on just the money savings of a higher 2nd + cash and/or an additional future 2nd). But I'd fully be willing to trade Ochai for Yang and I really do like Ochai but Bryant would be an upgrade in every way (especially size), plus more upside & that maaaay be the case for Yang and Queen, Yang reminds me so much of Gasol offensively. Sounds crazy now but I really do think our developmental staff can turn each of those guys into really damn good players...
I'd only take Queen if I knew we couldn't get another late 1st.
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did you delete the write-up on Queen? I don't see it anymore
https://nikoza2.substack.com/p/queen-on-the-chessboard
Seems to sum up my thoughts on Queen
Wouldn't take Sorber with #9 either. Wouldn't mind him with a 2nd pick, but Beringer seems to be the more sexy defensive C pick
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Did we select Carter Bryant yet?
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Do they read my post saying Spurs should consider Tre Johnson at #2?

I do think that Maluach to BK at #8 is okay, then can can trade Nic Claxton to the Lakers.
Whoa, Beringer to the Hawks at #13.

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The Duke wrote:Did we select Carter Bryant yet?

deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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I will be behind the pick we draft no matters what.
But on all the potential and realistic option at #9 Derik Queen is the player I want the less.
It’s just not my favourite profile
I understand that he is very gifted offensively but I think that drafting an undersized centre with defence limitations is a big risk
For a C, I think that size, wingspan , standing reach while being a defence anchor is more what I am looking for
At the end of the day Masai and co knows more than me (understatement) and I will trust their judgement. But I am a bit on the fence.
I hope Maluach drop to #9 but it’s likely that Queen is available at #9.
But if he is our pick, I will adjust immediately! Let’s go Queen.
But on all the potential and realistic option at #9 Derik Queen is the player I want the less.
It’s just not my favourite profile
I understand that he is very gifted offensively but I think that drafting an undersized centre with defence limitations is a big risk
For a C, I think that size, wingspan , standing reach while being a defence anchor is more what I am looking for
At the end of the day Masai and co knows more than me (understatement) and I will trust their judgement. But I am a bit on the fence.
I hope Maluach drop to #9 but it’s likely that Queen is available at #9.
But if he is our pick, I will adjust immediately! Let’s go Queen.
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SpezNc wrote:I will be behind the pick we draft no matters what.
But on all the potential and realistic option at #9 Derik Queen is the player I want the less.
It’s just not my favourite profile
I understand that he is very gifted offensively but I think that drafting an undersized centre with defence limitations is a big risk
For a C, I think that size, wingspan , standing reach while being a defence anchor is more what I am looking for
At the end of the day Masai and co knows more than me (understatement) and I will trust their judgement. But I am a bit on the fence.
I hope Maluach drop to #9 but it’s likely that Queen is available at #9.
But if he is our pick, I will adjust immediately! Let’s go Queen.
Queen will probably be better than Maluach on defense. He has better hands and with improved conditioning he'll be decent on switches. His offense speaks for itself, and the FT shooting means he'll eventually develop more range. In term of stocks he is much better than Maluach.
If the top 8, including Maluach are gone and Kon drops. I'd skip him and if I'm going for potential Queen is up there. I'd say he's top 3-5 in terms of potential.
Queen, Mogbo, Ingram, Barnes and RJ would be interesting to see on the court. A lot of passing and size.
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Thaddy wrote:SpezNc wrote:I will be behind the pick we draft no matters what.
But on all the potential and realistic option at #9 Derik Queen is the player I want the less.
It’s just not my favourite profile
I understand that he is very gifted offensively but I think that drafting an undersized centre with defence limitations is a big risk
For a C, I think that size, wingspan , standing reach while being a defence anchor is more what I am looking for
At the end of the day Masai and co knows more than me (understatement) and I will trust their judgement. But I am a bit on the fence.
I hope Maluach drop to #9 but it’s likely that Queen is available at #9.
But if he is our pick, I will adjust immediately! Let’s go Queen.
Queen will probably be better than Maluach on defense. He has better hands and with improved conditioning he'll be decent on switches. His offense speaks for itself, and the FT shooting means he'll eventually develop more range. In term of stocks he is much better than Maluach.
If the top 8, including Maluach are gone and Kon drops. I'd skip him and if I'm going for potential Queen is up there. I'd say he's top 3-5 in terms of potential.
Queen, Mogbo, Ingram, Barnes and RJ would be interesting to see on the court. A lot of passing and size.
I'll bet you whatever it is you wanna bet that Queen will not be a better defender than Maluach, I don't even understand how or why you would say that. He's longer than him, never had any motor concerns, defensively he's more mobile than him as is, and I'm not sure Maluach has stone hands when he was like the best college offensive rebounder.
Offensively sure, but defensively, not a chance he's better than Khaman. Ppl act like Khaman wasn't just at Duke, like he was playing in the BAL the last 5yrs. He literally anchored the defense of a final 4 team

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:The Duke wrote:Did we select Carter Bryant yet?
There's too much smoke around Maluach and Queen for me to hope otherwise. They're not my preference, but I trust Masai.
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Watching some old Zach Randolph stuff and Queen really is like a version of him. That’s not the greatest fit for us but that’s certainly BPA at 9
2019 Eastern Conference All Stars
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
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This draft gets me so excited. Reminds me a lot of the 21/Scottie Barnes draft. Maybe even better at the top. 10+ all-star potential players and a bunch of great role players
That draft had Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, Suggs, Kuminga, Franz, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Jalen Johnson, Giddey, Grimes, Aldama, Herb Jones, Ayo, Aaron Wiggins, etc..
I feel like this draft has the same vibe. I hope we acquire another late 1st pick. There will almost certainly be at least one, maybe multiple all-stars out of the foreigners Essengue, Traore, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Beringer, Hansen Yang, Markovic, etc
That draft had Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, Suggs, Kuminga, Franz, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Jalen Johnson, Giddey, Grimes, Aldama, Herb Jones, Ayo, Aaron Wiggins, etc..
I feel like this draft has the same vibe. I hope we acquire another late 1st pick. There will almost certainly be at least one, maybe multiple all-stars out of the foreigners Essengue, Traore, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Beringer, Hansen Yang, Markovic, etc
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i perceive queen as a better defensive rebounder than maluach which makes up for part of the difference. also easy to envision khaman getting the worst whistle in the league.
I'm still taking bryant and grabbing a big in the 2nd or off the free agency scrap heap.
I'm still taking bryant and grabbing a big in the 2nd or off the free agency scrap heap.
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arbsn wrote:This draft gets me so excited. Reminds me a lot of the 21/Scottie Barnes draft. Maybe even better at the top. 10+ all-star potential players and a bunch of great role players
That draft had Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, Suggs, Kuminga, Franz, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Jalen Johnson, Giddey, Grimes, Aldama, Herb Jones, Ayo, Aaron Wiggins, etc..
I feel like this draft has the same vibe. I hope we acquire another late 1st pick. There will almost certainly be at least one, maybe multiple all-stars out of the foreigners Essengue, Traore, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Beringer, Hansen Yang, Markovic, etc
I feel the opposite.
This draft is becoming worse for me by the week.
2021 draft is so much stronger that I don’t think it’s even close.
It’s a very wide open draft after Harper and Cooper. It would not surprise me to see alot of teams after the 7th pick to consider trading down.
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HumbleRen wrote:arbsn wrote:This draft gets me so excited. Reminds me a lot of the 21/Scottie Barnes draft. Maybe even better at the top. 10+ all-star potential players and a bunch of great role players
That draft had Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, Suggs, Kuminga, Franz, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Jalen Johnson, Giddey, Grimes, Aldama, Herb Jones, Ayo, Aaron Wiggins, etc..
I feel like this draft has the same vibe. I hope we acquire another late 1st pick. There will almost certainly be at least one, maybe multiple all-stars out of the foreigners Essengue, Traore, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Beringer, Hansen Yang, Markovic, etc
I feel the opposite.
This draft is becoming worse for me by the week.
2021 draft is so much stronger that I don’t think it’s even close.
It’s a very wide open draft after Harper and Cooper. It would not surprise me to see alot of teams after the 7th pick to consider trading down.
I like this draft. Feels pretty flat aside from Flagg and Harper. Not as good as the Scottie draft but I like it way better than last years.
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