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[Charania] Desmond Bane To Orlando For KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 Unprotected 1st Round Picks And 1 Pick Swap

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Post#201 » by JShuttlesworth » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:11 pm

Feels like the Magic gave up way too much. Outside of that, I think Bane is a great fit

What's the plan in Memphis though? This is a rebuilding type of play. I feel like JJJ is going to want to bounce as a Free Agent now too, so he could be moved this summer
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Post#202 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:16 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:Feels like the Magic gave up way too much. Outside of that, I think Bane is a great fit

What's the plan in Memphis though? This is a rebuilding type of play. I feel like JJJ is going to want to bounce as a Free Agent now too, so he could be moved this summer


Isn't he inline for a supermax ?
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Post#203 » by douggood » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:22 pm

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JShuttlesworth wrote:Feels like the Magic gave up way too much. Outside of that, I think Bane is a great fit

What's the plan in Memphis though? This is a rebuilding type of play. I feel like JJJ is going to want to bounce as a Free Agent now too, so he could be moved this summer


Isn't he inline for a supermax ?

JJJ isnt in line for super max didnt meet qualifications.

but the issue with him is his value and decreasing contract, a 140% raise on his salary doesnt give him appropirate value
so the griz have been creating cap space to raise and extend him, they need around 13 mil cap space
(dumping marcus smart + 1st) they had about 7 mil space after todays trade they have around 4, they will dump another small contract and get to 14 mil to do the raise and extend.
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Post#204 » by TakeYourHeart » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:25 pm

Great trade. Bane is on a 4 year contract. Those picks are gonna be late 20s except the Sun's one. The chance of drafting someone as good as Bane is extremely slim. And the timelines align, Franz and Paulo are here now.
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Post#206 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:27 pm

TakeYourHeart wrote:Great trade. Bane is on a 4 year contract. Those picks are gonna be late 20s except the Sun's one. The chance of drafting someone as good as Bane is extremely slim. And the timelines align, Franz and Paulo are here now.

well 2025 is 16 and as you said 2026 is more than likely a lotto pick. that's already 2 out of 4 that are not in the 20's :lol:
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Post#207 » by douggood » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:29 pm

for all the brouhaha about picks people have an idea it will be like the boston/nets trade, top of lotto
in reality its more measured

Paul george so far, picks #18, #12, #18 #26

gobert so far has netted picks #21 and #16

donovon mitchell so far #29

KD so far #21, #10
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Post#208 » by MoneyBall » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:30 pm

They probably thought "if Pacers are good enough to make the Finals, maybe the bar isn't as high as we thought"
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Post#209 » by kalel123 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:32 pm

douggood wrote:for all the brouhaha about picks people have an idea it will be like the boston/nets trade, top of lotto
in reality its more measured

Paul george so far, picks #18, #12, #18 #26

gobert so far has netted picks #21 and #16

donovon mitchell so far #29

KD so far #21, #10


And Poeltl yielded #8 pick.
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Post#210 » by kalel123 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:33 pm

These mid teams handing out unprotected picks like candy for what is essentially not a top player is going to muck up the trade market for other teams.
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Post#211 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:34 pm

douggood wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Feels like the Magic gave up way too much. Outside of that, I think Bane is a great fit

What's the plan in Memphis though? This is a rebuilding type of play. I feel like JJJ is going to want to bounce as a Free Agent now too, so he could be moved this summer


Isn't he inline for a supermax ?

JJJ isnt in line for super max didnt meet qualifications.

but the issue with him is his value and decreasing contract, a 140% raise on his salary doesnt give him appropirate value
so the griz have been creating cap space to raise and extend him, they need around 13 mil cap space
(dumping marcus smart + 1st) they had about 7 mil space after todays trade they have around 4, they will dump another small contract and get to 14 mil to do the raise and extend.


So really this trade was to get away from cap hell. Big 3s are no more and they decided to go with Ja & JJJ.
Makes the raps financial books look even better , we may not have that superstar #1 but we have plenty of players who can function as a #1 or #2 and be under the tax & 1st or 2nd aprons
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Post#212 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:51 pm

If you look at Weltman's decisions since joining the club almost a decade ago, he's had a lot of misfires. I think this will be another one. For me, these heavy pick packages would only be offered to real stars (and i love Bane's game)

Pressure is on Mosley to get the most out of this group. ORL needs to come out of the gate next season much improved or he's likely the first coach fired.
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Post#213 » by dkb964 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:56 pm

Brinbe wrote:Wow random Sunday banger. Bane is a really good piece

Perfectly fits what they needed. If they're healthy that's a top 6 team in the East, could be even higher


They were alreay a top 6 team in the east. They make this trade with thoughts of contending in the east.
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Post#214 » by dkb964 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:59 pm

mtcan wrote:The Magic **** up taking Jett Howard over Gradey. Would not have needed this trade if they have Gradey.


Bane is 10 times better then Dick. Dick kinda blows. Horrible defender, can't dribble or hit above the break 3s. The Raptors should try to trade him at the draft if they can when he still has value.
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Post#215 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:59 pm

Scase wrote:A lot of people talking about how bad the Siakam trade is compared to this, and while I agree that it definitely makes it worse, the real star of this?

How much worse that Luka trade looks knowing that THIS is what Bane pulled from ORL. Insanity.


The Luka trade was an all time bad trade but the Mavericks did get a top 10 player in return. The problem is that they should have gotten a top 10 player on top of multiple picks. That’s what made it so egregious and I’m a Lakers fan!

As far as the Bane trade the new CBA is really **** up the market. Either you draft, develop and end up paying or you over pay through trade to lock in your core for a 3-4 year run and flirt with the luxury tax. This is why I was always in favour of stacking multiple picks building through the draft.

Teams like San Antonio, Houston, OKC have an inherent advantage in that they can do trades like this without severely hampering their future flexibility like we’re seeing with the Knicks, Cavs, Wolves for example.
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Post#216 » by anotherhomer » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:00 pm

i think it's safe to say....we not getting any other players
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Post#217 » by dkb964 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:03 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:You see.. times like this keep reminding me how garbage of a trade the siakam one was.

I will lowkey want to cry if Pacers win the chip and siakam gets finals mvp


Siakam was on an expiring deal and Bane is locked up until 2029. You can not even compare the two.
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Post#218 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:03 pm

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mtcan wrote:The Magic **** up taking Jett Howard over Gradey. Would not have needed this trade if they have Gradey.


Bane is 10 times better then Dick. Dick kinda blows. Horrible defender, can't dribble or hit above the break 3s. The Raptors should try to trade him at the draft if they can when he still has value.


Dick is still much better than Jett Howard though. Magic kind of misfired with two shots in that draft. Imagine if this team had one of Lively, Bilal Coulibaly, Cason Wallace or Dick along with this move, they would be that much more dangerous in the long term.
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Post#219 » by dkb964 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:05 pm

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mtcan wrote:The Magic **** up taking Jett Howard over Gradey. Would not have needed this trade if they have Gradey.


Bane is 10 times better then Dick. Dick kinda blows. Horrible defender, can't dribble or hit above the break 3s. The Raptors should try to trade him at the draft if they can when he still has value.


Dick is still much better than Jett Howard though. Magic kind of misfired with two shots in that draft. Imagine if this team had one of Lively, Bilal Coulibaly, Cason Wallace or Dick along with this move, they would be that much more dangerous in the long term.


I guess but Howard looks like a huge bust. It still does not change that Dick is not any good either really. They need to flip him ASAP.
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Post#220 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:06 pm

Even with Bane being a better 3pt shooter, and a better defender. I'd even give you 1 tier higher, Bane isn't 4 1st better than RJ. RJ is truly most hated and criminally underrated with how he's treated around here & this trade. I'm noteven mad at Orlando, I'm usually for going after a player that you targeted, steep cost tho possibly
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