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[Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks

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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#201 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:29 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Suns at 10 instead of Houston helps our leverage since they want a big. If ATL or Chi have a targeted big they’ll need to jump Suns.


This is the best part about it all.

My only pushback is with the Bulls because what else do they offer to move up?!

I personally prefer a RJ for PWill + 12 trade than a trade down with the Bulls. I'd like Coby but we don't really have the salaries to match. I mean obv if we could weasel a 26' out of them (although can you trade consecutive years?) but they'd also likely protect that pick unless it's lightly protected (like top 6), I'm not sure how the Bulls get there in a trade down which why again I like Rj for PWill/12 instead.

But I'd like the deal with ATL for 13 + 22 no doubt. Although I could see Queen making the Hawks tougher especially with Johnson back next year, I also think we'd get more value overall if we nab one of Bryant, Essengue (both less likely) or Coward, Traore with the 13th then Yang (or maybe Fleming) with the 22nd would make us a better team overall and there's a world where I could Yang being a similar level player to Queen especially since his height will help more on the defensive end as a bit of rim protector.
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Post#202 » by mdenny » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:40 pm

Houston still has all their picks.....two highly valued suns picks and a whole bunch of prospects plus a relatively deep bench.

They can trade for another superstar if necessary. No brainer.

It was so clear that Houston was the destination for KD. I would've been pissed if they didn't do this.

The Raps were never in these sweepstakes. Raps and Bucks and pelicans are just waiting for Wednesday night to announce giannis trade.

As predicted by Tripod. Scotty will be a pelican, zion will be a buck, giannis will be a raptor. The Bucks will get 6 or 7 FRPs plus a bunch of filler.
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Post#203 » by djsunyc » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:42 pm

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Post#204 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:43 pm

mdenny wrote:Houston still has all their picks.....two highly valued suns picks and a whole bunch of prospects.

They can trade for another superstar if necessary. No brainer.


That's what's crazy...they still have the potential to trade for Giannis should the Bucks change their tone during an almost guaranteed depressing season ahead.
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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#205 » by mdenny » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:50 pm

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mdenny wrote:Houston still has all their picks.....two highly valued suns picks and a whole bunch of prospects.

They can trade for another superstar if necessary. No brainer.


That's what's crazy...they still have the potential to trade for Giannis should the Bucks change their tone during an almost guaranteed depressing season ahead.



Yep they could. Sengun plus two suns picks plus 2 of their own picks plus 2 of their prospects.

But not gonna happen because giannis is coming to Toronto.

OkC might have more future picks....but none of them have value like those 2 suns picks do. The fact that phoenix couldn't pry those picks back outta Houston tells you the other bids were not high at all.
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Re: [Charania] KD To Rockets For Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 And 5 Second Round Picks 

Post#206 » by mdenny » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:55 pm

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Post#207 » by treerollins » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:58 pm

suns are just absolutely cooked dealing with houston and not getting any of their own picks back in the deal. they’re just going to be making trade after trade trying to flip those super leveraged swap rights firsts and now these 5 seconds. revolving door of coaches and now just revolving door of low end young guys and washed vets.

not getting jabari or any of their picks back should have been no deal

and i was poised to like kd on houston but they have no backcourt depth now. 2 small pg’s, one aging and one inexperienced and no true shooting guard. it’s an imbalanced roster that needs more moves. kd is best at the 4 but jabari will be an expensive back up. they should at least try to move cam whitmore for a pick or rotation guard.
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Post#208 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:59 pm

The Suns are not a serious organization :lol:

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Post#209 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:00 pm

treerollins wrote:suns are just absolutely cooked dealing with houston and not getting any of their own picks back in the deal. they’re just going to be making trade after trade trying to flip those super leveraged swap rights firsts and now these 5 seconds. revolving door of coaches and now just revolving door of low end young guys and washed vets.

not getting jabari or any of their picks back should have been no deal

and i was poised to like kd on houston but they have no backcourt depth now. 2 small pg’s, one aging and one inexperienced and no true shooting guard. it’s an imbalanced roster that needs more moves. kd is best at the 4 but jabari will be an expensive back up. they should at least try to move cam whitmore for a pick or rotation guard.

Booker better ask out soon. That team is going nowhere fast.
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Post#210 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:00 pm

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mdenny wrote:Houston still has all their picks.....two highly valued suns picks and a whole bunch of prospects.

They can trade for another superstar if necessary. No brainer.


That's what's crazy...they still have the potential to trade for Giannis should the Bucks change their tone during an almost guaranteed depressing season ahead.


Oh for sure they have more than enough to get Giannis if they choose....They have Sengun/Amen, All of them Suns picks + their own....They are in prime position to add another superstar .
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Post#211 » by bballsparkin » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:01 pm

I think it's a pretty decent return for the Suns considering KD's age. They need to flip Green though. They can always get their picks back from Houston they just need to trade them Booker.
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Post#212 » by mdenny » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:01 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Lol we should honestly go for Demar.

Teach our guys about hard work and loyalty. If he can come cheap of course.


If they didn't learn that from Fred and pascal and Thad then it's hopeless.
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Post#213 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:02 pm

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So wait... wtf were they offering if they weren't even including their trash haha


Their offer was almost certainly Andrew Wiggins + Duncan Robinson + Miami's first round pick this year (20th overall).


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Post#214 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:07 pm

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Post#215 » by FrozenLeafz » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:15 pm

how come the Rockets traded Jalen Green? I don't get this trade, they're trading their future star to have a very small window to win a championship. KD is always injured, it's hard to see them even make the playoffs if KD doesn't play all games in the regular season
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Post#217 » by mdenny » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:22 pm

FrozenLeafz wrote:how come the Rockets traded Jalen Green? I don't get this trade, they're trading their future star to have a very small window to win a championship. KD is always injured, it's hard to see them even make the playoffs if KD doesn't play all games in the regular season


It's pretty tough calling green a "future star" at this point. He's going into his 5th season and he still has the same problems. Seems kinda destined to be a stat-stuffer on a losing team.

If he doesn't score more than 24 points....he's a liability.
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Post#218 » by PushDaRock » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:26 pm

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treerollins wrote:suns are just absolutely cooked dealing with houston and not getting any of their own picks back in the deal. they’re just going to be making trade after trade trying to flip those super leveraged swap rights firsts and now these 5 seconds. revolving door of coaches and now just revolving door of low end young guys and washed vets.

not getting jabari or any of their picks back should have been no deal

and i was poised to like kd on houston but they have no backcourt depth now. 2 small pg’s, one aging and one inexperienced and no true shooting guard. it’s an imbalanced roster that needs more moves. kd is best at the 4 but jabari will be an expensive back up. they should at least try to move cam whitmore for a pick or rotation guard.

Booker better ask out soon. That team is going nowhere fast.


He won't until at least after he signs his extension.
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Post#219 » by PushDaRock » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:27 pm

FrozenLeafz wrote:how come the Rockets traded Jalen Green? I don't get this trade, they're trading their future star to have a very small window to win a championship. KD is always injured, it's hard to see them even make the playoffs if KD doesn't play all games in the regular season


lmao at Jalen Green projecting as a future star.
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Post#220 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:30 pm

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League sources say that the Rockets remained adamant — after rebuffing Phoenix's in-season attempts to ship Durant to them and sticking to their desire to leave the core of their team untouched until after the playoffs — that they would not trade for KD if they had to surrender any of their most prized youngsters.

The Suns' first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 that Houston also holds? Sources say that they were never in play in these trade talks.

The Rockets were able, in the end, to do a deal largely on their terms, surrendering Green and Dillon Brooks and the No. 10 overall pick in a draft Wednesday night that, as The Stein Line has been reporting all week, is regarded by numerous scouts and draft evaluators to only feature a clear-cut top eight.


Phoenix will also be getting a significant amount of second-round compensation from the Rockets, but the Suns ultimately decided to take the best deal they could that furnished them with a lottery pick immediately. As The Stein Line reported Friday night, Phoenix had been quietly expressing confidence entering the weekend that it could indeed complete a palatable Durant deal before the draft.

The trade can't officially be consummated until the next salary cap year commences and the NBA's annual moratorium is lifted on July 6, so you'll have to sit through the charade of Houston making the No. 10 pick on Phoenix's behalf on Wednesday night. The Suns, though, now know that they at least managed to secure the first-round pick they were so fervently hoping to acquire in this draft after pursuing a variety of first-round selections in ultimately fruitless talks with other teams, from Toronto's No. 9 pick all the way down to Miami's No. 20 selection and Nos. 14 (San Antonio) and 17 (Minnesota) in between.


As our guy Jake Fischer first reported via Twitter, Phoenix is signaling that it plans to keep Green to pair him with Devin Booker.


There is bound to be some skepticism from watching rivals regarding that stance, mind you, given the obvious Booker/Green fit questions that will be raised. Especially with Bradley Beal also still on the roster.

It also must be remembered that, when the Rockets signed Green to a three-year, $105 million contract extension in October, numerous rival teams saw it as a deal that was offered to the 23-year-old as much for its tradability as Houston's fondness for the player. The Rockets did prove completely unwilling in these talks, by contrast, to part with recent first-round picks such as Jabari Smith Jr. and Reed Sheppard.

Phoenix, as feared, didn't come close to matching the monster haul it gave up to acquire Durant in February 2023, when the Suns packaged Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder to Brooklyn — plus four unprotected first-round picks (2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029) and swap rights on the teams' first-round selections in 2028 — to get the NBA's No. 8 all-time leading scoring. The Suns, though, did manage to add a former No. 2 overall pick in Green to the first-rounder it will control on Wednesday night and bring in the sort of tough-minded player in Brooks that Suns owner Mat Ishbia has been openly clamoring for since Phoenix went 36-46 and failed to even qualify for the Play-In Tournament.


The presence of Durant's good friend Ime Udoka as Houston's coach was obviously a contributing factor to the trade on numerous fronts. The Rockets were always high on Durant's wish list — and realistically only rose on that list when KD, as The Stein Line first reported last Sunday, had to scratch off the Knicks, who made it known they would be making an offer. And Udoka, who recently received a lucrative contract extension, was a strong behind-the-scenes advocate for adding Durant's bucket-getting to the Rockets' very youthful core despite Houston's well-chronicled timeline concerns given that the future Hall of Famer turns 37 in September.

The Rockets, remember, have also managed to hold on to another of Durant's closest friends: Assistant coach Royal Ivey. As The Stein Line reported earlier this month, multiple teams — including San Antonio — have been trying to hire away Ivey, who committed to staying on Udoka's staff after he did not land the Suns' head coaching job. Ivey was among the candidates that the Suns interviewed for the post before hiring Cleveland Cavaliers assistant Jordan Ott as Ishbia's fourth head coach in four seasons.


The Heat were interested until the end but, as The Stein Line reported Friday night, their refusal to part with rookie center Kel'el Ware essentially ruled Miami out despite the Suns' desire to acquire the No. 20 pick in Wednesday's first round.



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