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Re: PG: We may never lose again. 

Post#201 » by mihaic » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:44 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:I also **** talked Dick early in the game cause he looked horrible in his first stretch. Then he absolutely turned it around.


I'm starting to see the vision with him on our team, I really hope he puts it together because having an athletic Korver type of player on the team would be crazy.


It's pick your poison with him. If u close on him he'll blow by if not it's a good chance he sinks a 3. If he when he gets stronger like RJ he'll fin8sh at rim consistently, he'll be huge.
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Post#202 » by mihaic » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:47 pm

NBA Sheady wrote:We look good with BI. We look good without BI. RJ is just a pro. Not super skilled or talented but just keeps grinding and getting better.

I am impressed with how BI fits. He'll be invaluable in the half court. Not every team will allow us to run like Atlanta did, especially if we have a few more games like this. Ingram will be worth it if healthy. And his D is really better than I thought.
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Re: PG: We may never lose again. 

Post#203 » by mihaic » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:49 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Other than top 4 spots, East is kind of wide open with injuries, question marks everywhere. But putting up a lot of points against a poor defensive team like Hawks isn't something to get too excited about.


Who are the top 4?

I say top 2, Cavs and Knicks. Magic and pistons showed they are much closer to the pack than top 2

Those are tier 2. Rest is the pack, let's see where Philly Indy and the Celtics end up, they are wild cards.
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Re: PG: We may never lose again. 

Post#204 » by mihaic » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:53 pm

mademan wrote:I dont think I saw Scottie try to initiate offense from the 3pt line out this whole game. This is the way he should play. Run the break, play aggressive and be a connector in the halfcourt instead of a primary option. If IQ's shots start falling, we can be really good

Having Ingram there to bail us certainly helps, I feel like every shot he has to take late in the clock is a high percentage good shot for him. His shooting is smooth with high arc and his release point is high up, hard to contest without fouling him.
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Post#205 » by mihaic » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:55 pm

Not impressed with Snyder. He did not stop our running which is how we won the game.
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Re: PG: We may never lose again. 

Post#206 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:57 pm

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Post#207 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:01 pm

mihaic wrote:Not impressed with Snyder. He did not stop our running which is how we won the game.


Their GM gave Trae the Siakam treatment, and Porzingis is moving like late career Yao Ming out there. I think Snyder isn't going to waste timeouts on something that might take a few months to figure out.
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Post#208 » by links135 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:07 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:What exactly is an action to get Scottie a good shot, though?

Anything mid range is 100% better suited for Ingram. Towards the rim is Barrett. From 3 is IQ.

Barnes just... doesn't have any positive scoring attributes.

TBH - his best offensive role going forward really is to have no role in a pecking order. He can connect, and hopefully learn to play effectively offball with cuts and corner 3's, but I really honestly don't think you ever draw up a play for Barnes.

Post the man up…give him some split actions where he’s going down hill, you know, regular offensive **** that most coaches try and do for their max guy.


Anyone remember this gem, the 1st game of the season. 83 points. 30.9% shooting.

https://www.nba.com/game/was-vs-tor-0022100006/box-score

We ended up making the playoffs.

But this is why I love RealGM. The overreaction after the 1st pre-season game.


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2475282&p=119719912#p119719912

Who would have guessed that RealGM, REALGM could...... overreact after a single pre-season game.
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Post#209 » by everdiso » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:09 pm

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SFour wrote:I think 50 wins is a real possibility if they can stay healthy.....starters are solid, depth is there. Raptors teams in the past have had regular season success with teams built like this.


Not sure we've ever seen a raps team built like this tbh. 5 legit 30+mpg starters who can all initiate offense, score, pass, and defend a bit. And then one of them is a legit #1 scoring option on top of that. Can't rightly remember a raps team that's had that before tbh.


2019


Don't think Danny was ever a legit 30+mpg full-time starter tbh. Great 3+D guy but not a guy you who could initiate offense or pass much, and never played more than mid-20s mpg in his career.

Even Marc was questionable too at that point, though that was more just an age thing than a skillset thing.
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Post#210 » by NinjaBro » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:25 pm

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lol so many memes generated in that 10 second clip
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Post#212 » by OakleyDokely » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:00 pm

From the Serbians I knew in school, Darko seems pretty mild mannered.
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Post#213 » by lolwut » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:13 pm

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niQ wrote:Will be interesting to see how CMB fits in with the team. Hope it's soon.

I saw an article that said he's day to day and could even play Friday.

I guess that's what "day to day" means. Today is Thursday and tomorrow is Friday.
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Post#214 » by WiggOuts » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:16 pm

A couple things to say about reading this thread

Its really odd at how many people are saying IQ didn't play well, I feel like maybe some of those people didn't watch the game and just looked at the BS. He played good D, had a much improved floor game and made some great passes, not to mention he had a certain swagger that couldn't be denied

Lots of people saying they didn't watch the game...how do you come on a fan site to speak about the Raps yet you don't even watch the first game of the season...I'm sure most of the people here were dying to watch the first game in soo long
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Post#215 » by Zeno » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:19 pm

CMB and Jakobe both questionable for the Bucks game.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Post#216 » by Clav » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:27 pm

Congrats Raps pals your team made my friend lose a $200 polymarket bet on the Hawks :lol: If you were on the other side pat yourself on the back and have a lunch on my homie!
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Post#217 » by Grew » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:28 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:I always find it interesting to keep track of who is driving winning via Win Shares and will probably start posting it here more often after games if I have time. Win Shares correlate heavily with both Expected W/L and the team's actual record.

Using last season as a recent full season sample off the top of my head, the players combined for a total of 32 win shares, and finished with both expected and actual win totals of 30.

Last night the players combined for 1 Win Share and got the 1st W of the season:

Scottie: 0.3 WS (0.2 oWS/0.1 dWS)
RJ: 0.2 WS (0.1 oWS/0.1 dWS)
Gradey: 0.2 oWS
Ochai: 0.1 dWS
Poeltl and Shead: 0.1 oWS each

Everyone else that played last night had less than 0.05 Win Shares (rounds down to 0 instead of up to 0.1). Ingram was the only guy who was a negative, but it was higher than -0.05 (rounds up to 0 instead of down to -0.1).


Interesting BI was the worst of them in this category. I felt like his shot creation in the first quarter was what opened up the floor and got this team into a rhythm offensively.

Compared to how this team has played the last few years, BI felt like the difference between just RJ coming out hot with the rest of the team struggling to get going, and us just having a strong night offensively from start to finish.

Another strong example of stats not being able to tell the whole story by themselves IMO. Very interesting to reference though, good post.
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Post#218 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:38 pm

Grew wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:I always find it interesting to keep track of who is driving winning via Win Shares and will probably start posting it here more often after games if I have time. Win Shares correlate heavily with both Expected W/L and the team's actual record.

Using last season as a recent full season sample off the top of my head, the players combined for a total of 32 win shares, and finished with both expected and actual win totals of 30.

Last night the players combined for 1 Win Share and got the 1st W of the season:

Scottie: 0.3 WS (0.2 oWS/0.1 dWS)
RJ: 0.2 WS (0.1 oWS/0.1 dWS)
Gradey: 0.2 oWS
Ochai: 0.1 dWS
Poeltl and Shead: 0.1 oWS each

Everyone else that played last night had less than 0.05 Win Shares (rounds down to 0 instead of up to 0.1). Ingram was the only guy who was a negative, but it was higher than -0.05 (rounds up to 0 instead of down to -0.1).


Interesting BI was the worst of them in this category. I felt like his shot creation in the first quarter was what opened up the floor and got this team into a rhythm offensively.

Compared to how this team has played the last few years, BI felt like the difference between just RJ coming out hot with the rest of the team struggling to get going, and us just having a strong night offensively from start to finish.

Another strong example of stats not being able to tell the whole story by themselves IMO. Very interesting to reference though, good post.


probably had something to do w/ BI's 5 turnovers
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Post#219 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:39 pm

links135 wrote:
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720 wrote:Post the man up…give him some split actions where he’s going down hill, you know, regular offensive **** that most coaches try and do for their max guy.


Anyone remember this gem, the 1st game of the season. 83 points. 30.9% shooting.

https://www.nba.com/game/was-vs-tor-0022100006/box-score

We ended up making the playoffs.

But this is why I love RealGM. The overreaction after the 1st pre-season game.


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2475282&p=119719912#p119719912

Who would have guessed that RealGM, REALGM could...... overreact after a single pre-season game.

I mean, the entire conversation was about the coach drawing stuff up for Scottie offensively.

Last night, Scottie scored 9 times. 6 were in transition. Other than that he was 3/8 from the field. Granted he did exactly what I was hoping he would do (not hijack the offence, and play to his strengths), but his good scoring game last night was in no way because he performed well in a half court setting scoring wise.

It was in no way a "overreaction to 1 pre-season game", it was a comment based on 4 years of data that Scottie cannot create a shot for himself on a regular basis.
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Post#220 » by DreamTeam09 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:41 pm

I wanna know who in our front office wasn't hype for the BI trade, if it was Bobby he needs to be questioned. Trading what we traded for BI should've been no brainer insta accept. An expiring, a 12 mill deal and a pick that didn't belong to us is nothing that needed to be thought about.
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