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Re: Official NBA General Discussion 2023-24 V1.0 

Post#2001 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:59 am

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on the Knicks? DPOY!


On the Knicks forum, they’re openly talking about how they thought he was overrated yet now understand that he’s severely underrated.

They’re at the beginning of their “OG is Kawhi 2.0” journey though which I find pretty hilarious.
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Post#2002 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:02 am

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HumbleRen wrote:I know some of you guys are attached to OG and Siakam but do you guys hear yourselves ? Build around OG and Siakam ?

Please get a grip guys. It’s embarrassing.

As if we didn't have Nurse, Siakam, FVV, OG, and Barnes last year and were a .500 team.

They had their chance and were not good enough

They didn't really have their chance because Masai/Bobby didn't build a good roster around them. Instead they built the worst bench in the league made up of non shooting athletes. Put a scoring combo guard and a stretch 5 with that core and coach and it would have been so different
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Post#2003 » by Tripod » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:11 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
Tripod wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:I know some of you guys are attached to OG and Siakam but do you guys hear yourselves ? Build around OG and Siakam ?

Please get a grip guys. It’s embarrassing.

As if we didn't have Nurse, Siakam, FVV, OG, and Barnes last year and were a .500 team.

They had their chance and were not good enough

They didn't really have their chance because Masai/Bobby didn't build a good roster around them. Instead they built the worst bench in the league made up of non shooting athletes. Put a scoring combo guard and a stretch 5 with that core and coach and it would have been so different

Yeah, we might have been 7th in the East instead
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Post#2004 » by Agimat » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:12 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
Tripod wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:I know some of you guys are attached to OG and Siakam but do you guys hear yourselves ? Build around OG and Siakam ?

Please get a grip guys. It’s embarrassing.

As if we didn't have Nurse, Siakam, FVV, OG, and Barnes last year and were a .500 team.

They had their chance and were not good enough

They didn't really have their chance because Masai/Bobby didn't build a good roster around them. Instead they built the worst bench in the league made up of non shooting athletes. Put a scoring combo guard and a stretch 5 with that core and coach and it would have been so different

OG may not be the centerpiece, but he is certainly a valuable component of a contending team
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Post#2005 » by HumbleRen » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:14 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
Tripod wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:I know some of you guys are attached to OG and Siakam but do you guys hear yourselves ? Build around OG and Siakam ?

Please get a grip guys. It’s embarrassing.

As if we didn't have Nurse, Siakam, FVV, OG, and Barnes last year and were a .500 team.

They had their chance and were not good enough

They didn't really have their chance because Masai/Bobby didn't build a good roster around them. Instead they built the worst bench in the league made up of non shooting athletes. Put a scoring combo guard and a stretch 5 with that core and coach and it would have been so different


You don’t build a roster around Siakam and OG. They’re not good enough offensive options to do that.

You add them to an established core. That’s how you “build” around them.

Masai was never going to be able to do that while Siakamc FVV and OG are seeking that much money on their next contacts. Which is why half of the fanbase on this board called for a rebuild 2 years ago because we saw this coming.
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Post#2006 » by duppyy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:17 am

Knicks are looking good but the big question is how well they do when Randle does his disappearing act in the playoffs.
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Post#2007 » by RAPSinCAPS » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:18 am

WuTang_OG wrote:happy for OG
the impact was always more than stats

he's truly a force defensively and it's creating waves on a NY team that's talented

I'm happy for him too. But wouldn't it hurt if they won it all. If Robinson comes back and they beef up their bench with someone like a Murray or Lowery, it's a possibility. Their numbers are ridiculous with OG.
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Post#2008 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:19 am

I remember when our combo guard loving subset of fans used to subtly detract OG after every missed iso move lol.
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Post#2009 » by Agimat » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:21 am

duppyy wrote:Knicks are looking good but the big question is how well they do when Randle does his disappearing act in the playoffs.

They need one more piece maybe someone like Brogdon could be a good addition. And if Lowry happens to hit the market with a buyout, snagging him would be a bonus.
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Post#2010 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:21 am

HumbleRen wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Tripod wrote:As if we didn't have Nurse, Siakam, FVV, OG, and Barnes last year and were a .500 team.

They had their chance and were not good enough

They didn't really have their chance because Masai/Bobby didn't build a good roster around them. Instead they built the worst bench in the league made up of non shooting athletes. Put a scoring combo guard and a stretch 5 with that core and coach and it would have been so different


You don’t build a roster around Siakam and OG. They’re not good enough offensive options to do that.

You add them to an established core. That’s how you “build” around them.

Masai was never going to be able to do that while Siakamc FVV and OG are seeking that much money on their next contacts. Which is why half of the fanbase on this board called for a rebuild 2 years ago because we saw this coming.

Siakam, OG and Barnes. Some teams would kill for that three man core. There's a world where a great team could have been built around them. But since the championship every personnel move was underwhelming or a failure except Scottie.
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Post#2011 » by duppyy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:22 am

OG needs to demand FVV type money with the way Knick’s are smitten by him.
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Post#2012 » by HumbleRen » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:22 am

Agimat wrote:
duppyy wrote:Knicks are looking good but the big question is how well they do when Randle does his disappearing act in the playoffs.

They need one more piece maybe someone like Brogdon could be a good addition. And if Lowry happens to hit the market with a buyout, snagging him would be a bonus.


They probably want to give Randle and Brunson the chance to do something in the playoffs. If they lose in the first round again or the 2nd round isn’t competitive. I expect them to move Randle.
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Post#2013 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:24 am

ForeverTFC wrote:We had OG and Siakam on our roster, home grown, in their prime. This is so depressing.


This.
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Post#2014 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:25 am

duppyy wrote:Knicks are looking good but the big question is how well they do when Randle does his disappearing act in the playoffs.


He’ll be gone in due time. The core there is Brunson and OG.

I’m not a fan of KAT but I do wonder if he would make sense there.
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Post#2015 » by RAPSinCAPS » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:27 am

Agimat wrote:
duppyy wrote:Knicks are looking good but the big question is how well they do when Randle does his disappearing act in the playoffs.

They need one more piece maybe someone like Brogdon could be a good addition. And if Lowry happens to hit the market with a buyout, snagging him would be a bonus.

I'm sure they're already tampering.

Their punishment should be to rewind the OG trade. They can keep their maple mamba and all.
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Post#2016 » by Tripod » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:28 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:They didn't really have their chance because Masai/Bobby didn't build a good roster around them. Instead they built the worst bench in the league made up of non shooting athletes. Put a scoring combo guard and a stretch 5 with that core and coach and it would have been so different


You don’t build a roster around Siakam and OG. They’re not good enough offensive options to do that.

You add them to an established core. That’s how you “build” around them.

Masai was never going to be able to do that while Siakamc FVV and OG are seeking that much money on their next contacts. Which is why half of the fanbase on this board called for a rebuild 2 years ago because we saw this coming.

Siakam, OG and Barnes. Some teams would kill for that three man core. There's a world where a great team could have been built around them. But since the championship every personnel move was underwhelming or a failure except Scottie.

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Post#2017 » by RAPSinCAPS » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:29 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:We had OG and Siakam on our roster, home grown, in their prime. This is so depressing.


This.

To be fair, OG is not even in his prime yet :banghead:
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Post#2018 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:29 am

What is very noticeable is the effort level of the 3 traded players is night and day. Can they keep it up for a full season? Who knows. But they weren't playing this hard in Toronto which is why this team sucked.

The Raptors do a very good job of developing though. Look around the league at former Raptors and how they're contributing. Let's hope they can do the same with the new wave of young guys.
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Post#2019 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:31 am

ForeverTFC wrote:26/13/10, 70% from the field for Pascal who was +30 on the night without Hali against the Sixers.

But some folks here were adamant he couldn’t play against size. Meanwhile half the fanbase has delusions that RJ is a future star…

I might never forgive Masai for not building g a team around OG and Siakam.


Lol you don't build a team around OG and Siakam.
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Post#2020 » by Agimat » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:32 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Agimat wrote:
duppyy wrote:Knicks are looking good but the big question is how well they do when Randle does his disappearing act in the playoffs.

They need one more piece maybe someone like Brogdon could be a good addition. And if Lowry happens to hit the market with a buyout, snagging him would be a bonus.


They probably want to give Randle and Brunson the chance to do something in the playoffs. If they lose in the first round again or the 2nd round isn’t competitive. I expect them to move Randle.

You're right totally slipped my mind how Randle was a no-show last year, but super pumped to see former raps do their thing in the playoffs!

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