2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[tecumseh18]

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

Maybe I don't see as much in Simmons as you do. If I'm Philly and can get something like Lowry, Powell, Davis, and at least 2 unprotected first round picks I would do it. That's a better team even if Simmons is easily the best individual player.

Don't think Philly would do that.

Don't think Toronto would give up unprotected first rounders either for a non superstar player.

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Sixers would only take Lowry for Simmons if OG was in the deal. Raps would only give up OG if Thybuile was coming back. So here's my final offer:

Raps trade Lowry and OG to Sixers, and Norm to Rockets. Sixers send Simmons to Houston and Thybuile to TO. Houston sends Harden to Raps. Raps give an unprotected FRP to each of Houston and Sixers.

Works in the trade checker. Who says no?

[anotherhomer]

Maybe I don't see as much in Simmons as you do. If I'm Philly and can get something like Lowry, Powell, Davis, and at least 2 unprotected first round picks I would do it. That's a better team even if Simmons is easily the best individual player.

Don't think Philly would do that.

Don't think Toronto would give up unprotected first rounders either for a non superstar player.

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Sixers would only take Lowry for Simmons if OG was in the deal. Raps would only give up OG if Thybuile was coming back. So here's my final offer:

Raps trade Lowry and OG to Sixers, and Norm to Rockets. Sixers send Simmons to Houston and Thybuile to TO. Houston sends Harden to Raps. Raps give an unprotected FRP to each of Houston and Sixers.

Works in the trade checker. Who says no?

Sixers say no.
Why give up Simmons for Lowry and OG and first

[sogood]

Maybe I don't see as much in Simmons as you do. If I'm Philly and can get something like Lowry, Powell, Davis, and at least 2 unprotected first round picks I would do it. That's a better team even if Simmons is easily the best individual player.

Don't think Philly would do that.

Don't think Toronto would give up unprotected first rounders either for a non superstar player.

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Sixers would only take Lowry for Simmons if OG was in the deal. Raps would only give up OG if Thybuile was coming back. So here's my final offer:

Raps trade Lowry and OG to Sixers, and Norm to Rockets. Sixers send Simmons to Houston and Thybuile to TO. Houston sends Harden to Raps. Raps give an unprotected FRP to each of Houston and Sixers.

Works in the trade checker. Who says no?

Man y'all are overrating the trade value of a 35 year old point guard.

[Raptors_128]

How about this trade? I’m not really sure about Lavine’s value.

Toronto gets: Harden + Tucker
Philly gets: Lowry + filler
Chicago gets: Norm + OG + TD
Houston gets: Lavine + Thybulle + 2021 Raps 1st + 2021 Philly 1st + filler

FVV/Harden/Tucker/Siakam/Baynes
Flynn/Thomas/Watson/Boucher/Len

It’s hard to make the salaries work without moving Fred or Kyle and I assume we won’t move Fred because of bad optics (even though it makes our team better to keep Kyle over Fred).

[MessiahUjiri]

Two trades to set us up for the future:

Lowry to Philly for young assets
Norm + filler to Indy for Myles Turner


Trade 1:
Kyle Lowry, Patrick McCaw, Stanley Johnson for Seth Curry, Danny Green, Tyrese Maxey, Mike Scott

Trade 2:
Norm Powell and 2021 1st for Myles Turner


Fred / Flynn
Danny G / Curry / Maxey
OG / Bembry (Danny G spot minutes)
Siakam / Boucher
Turner / Baynes

I'm super high on Tyrese Maxey. He's going to be a star, and would be a great attacking complement to Fred and Flynn at the SG spot.

so lowry + powell + 2021 1st for turner + maxey basically.

how does that make us better now or going into the future.
my read on the league is it doesnt have a high value of Turner, everyone seems to pass trading for him even through he is on the market, locked up and cheap.
boston passed, nop passed.

anylitics probably show that he is an empty stats guy like hassan whiteside.

Maxey is a young two way athlete who can be a star.

It’s true that Turner hasn’t panned out to his expectations, but he’s still young. That’s why we’d be able to get him.

A front court of OG/Siakam/Turner would be very intimidating. Add Baynes/Boucher, and you’ve got a mean combination of length and strength.

It’s not a championship team, but I don’t think anyone wants to face that team in the playoffs.

Young 2 way players at 1-5. Assets who can be cashed in when the time is right.

[VanWest82]

Potential win now trades for bigs:

Norm + Baynes + TD + pick for Vuc
Lowry for Horford
Lowry for LMA

I feel like all three of these deals have the potential to raise the ceiling of this year's team given our ridiculous guard depth. These would be assuming one of Norm or Kyle wasn't interested in an extension.

[Kingsway_fan]

Potential win now trades for bigs:

Norm + Baynes + TD + pick for Vuc
Lowry for Horford
Lowry for LMA

I feel like all three of these deals have the potential to raise the ceiling of this year's team given our ridiculous guard depth. These would be assuming one of Norm or Kyle wasn't interested in an extension.

Thank goodness you are not our gm, lol

[Gold Dragon]

I think Masai might take a chance on Oladipo with his trade value being low. Similar to the Kawhi trade situation.

Indy gets: Norm, SJ, McCaw + 2023 1st (lottery protected)
Tor gets: Oladipo, Kelan Martin (contract not fully guaranteed)

I'm not sure who of Kyle, Fred or Victor comes off the bench. Maybe they take turns starting.

Having a closing lineup of OG, Pascal, Oladipo, Fred, Kyle could be pretty effective even if Oladipo does not return to form. And it is a one year trial with the potential to re-evalutate. We would have Oladipo's bird rights and could resign both him and Kyle if things work out. If they don't you let him go and still have space for a max free agent.

[Sticks]

Ideal scenario
We need to trade lowry and powell for 1st round picks and young assets.

And use that as a base to make a pitch for Harden.
With harden on board we will have a the best chance at the top remaining free agents which would be Kawhi or Gobert

Fvv flynn
Harden TD thomas
OG thomas
Siakam OG
Gobert

Or

Fvv flynn TD
Harden TD
Kawhi OG
Siakam OG
Vet min FA OG

Both these teams would be expensive and we'd pay luxury tax but would be worth it if we can make it happen

[StopitLeo]

Ideal scenario
We need to trade lowry and powell for 1st round picks and young assets.

And use that as a base to make a pitch for Harden.
With harden on board we will have a the best chance at the top remaining free agents which would be Kawhi or Gobert

Fvv flynn
Harden TD thomas
OG thomas
Siakam OG
Gobert

Or

Fvv flynn TD
Harden TD
Kawhi OG
Siakam OG
Vet min FA OG

Both these teams would be expensive and we'd pay luxury tax but would be worth it if we can make it happen

That isn’t possible with the salary cap.

[jacinto]

Marial Shayok is available. Local Canadian guy from Ottawa who was 3rd in GLeague last year in scoring. He's a bit older (25, I think), but has shown progress year to year. Would be a nice GLeague pickup, if anything. I think he could be a gem if given the right environment.

[Raptors_128]

Take it with a grain of salt.

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[Duffman100]

Lowry and McCaw

for

Conley and a 2021 unprotected 1st

[fbalmeida]

Take it with a grain of salt.

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Probably faux but for what it's worth, a trade, now, for Harden without Siakam, would have to include Lowry. It's really the only way to match salaries. Recent signees like Fred or Boucher can't be traded until February.

[ash_k]

To LAC => Lowry (Masai will not move Kyle to Utah and teams like that, only Philly or LAs out of respect)
To Raps=> Horford + 1st RD pick from OKC due to facilitating Al's contracts(saving 20M)/one of the Clippers ones
To OKC => Beverley+ Lou + Zubac

We still need a Serge Ibaka-type off the bench; meaning a highly experienced Big that can start if needed AL HORFORD fits that bill.

a bench of
Malachi + TD + Thomas + Horford + Boucher

Norman at 18ppg like last year as a starter
OG needs to do 15+ppg
Baynes fits the shooting center role better than Mark.

We can still compete for Top4 in the East with that.

[Kingsway_fan]

Why would we go after Harden.. makes no sense...

[Kingsway_fan]

Take it with a grain of salt.

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I call smokescreen.... masai and nurse value two way players.... dont need. He won't extend and will fly south the first winter here....

[douggood]

To LAC => Lowry (Masai will not move Kyle to Utah and teams like that, only Philly or LAs out of respect)
To Raps=> Horford + 1st RD pick from OKC due to facilitating Al's contracts(saving 20M)/one of the Clippers ones
To OKC => Beverley+ Lou + Zubac

We still need a Serge Ibaka-type off the bench; meaning a highly experienced Big that can start if needed AL HORFORD fits that bill.

a bench of
Malachi + TD + Thomas + Horford + Boucher

Norman at 18ppg like last year as a starter
OG needs to do 15+ppg
Baynes fits the shooting center role better than Mark.

We can still compete for Top4 in the East with that.

okc isnt going use picks, to dump salary, why would they want to do that, they arent in tax, or have need for cap space etc.

they will rebuild horford value, play him for a year, and when he is almost expiring dump him for another pick.

[ash_k]

To LAC => Lowry (Masai will not move Kyle to Utah and teams like that, only Philly or LAs out of respect)
To Raps=> Horford + 1st RD pick from OKC due to facilitating Al's contracts(saving 20M)/one of the Clippers ones
To OKC => Beverley+ Lou + Zubac

We still need a Serge Ibaka-type off the bench; meaning a highly experienced Big that can start if needed AL HORFORD fits that bill.

a bench of
Malachi + TD + Thomas + Horford + Boucher

Norman at 18ppg like last year as a starter
OG needs to do 15+ppg
Baynes fits the shooting center role better than Mark.

We can still compete for Top4 in the East with that.

okc isnt going use picks, to dump salary, why would they want to do that, they arent in tax, or have need for cap space etc.

they will rebuild horford value, play him for a year, and when he is almost expiring dump him for another pick.

Because he is 34 and his contract expires in 3 years. Lou is an expiring one and Pat's expires the following season. As an OKC player, If he gets a serious injury during the season that he will become almost an unmovable contract (without including MULTIPLE picks)

OKC would save 20M of committed salary and that pick would be in the Late 20s pick with that trade

[Fast_Feets]

Something is brewing. I hope its for something good.