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Re: Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas 

Post#221 » by Courtside » Tue Dec 6, 2011 5:53 pm

Indeed wrote:I would prefer to give those minutes to Ed Davis.
Either he is serviceable and mentor our young players through training or practice, or someone who is young and willing to stay.

Of course Davis goes first, but there are times when you need to go deep into your bench - especially in a shortened season where you'll be playing 5 games most weeks. We saw Amir lose some time last year and there's no guarantee any of our young guys are healthy for 66 games... I'm talking about a guy who might only get into 20 games for 5 minutes here and 10 minutes there.
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Re: Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas 

Post#222 » by NH » Tue Dec 6, 2011 6:17 pm

What are your thoughts about bringing in Chris Douglas Roberts to replace Sonny Weems? He seems like a decent 2/3 swingman off the bench.
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Post#223 » by Courtside » Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:05 pm

NH wrote:What are your thoughts about bringing in Chris Douglas Roberts to replace Sonny Weems? He seems like a decent 2/3 swingman off the bench.

Very decent bench player it would seem - do the Bucks not want him back for only $1.1 mil?
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Post#224 » by highness » Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:13 pm

Isn't CDR in Europe? I'm not sure if he has an out clause.
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Post#225 » by NH » Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:35 pm

highness wrote:Isn't CDR in Europe? I'm not sure if he has an out clause.


Oops you are right. Just checked his Twitter and he is staying in Europe for the season.
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Re: Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas 

Post#226 » by CrookedJ » Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:38 pm

CDR is gone till next year

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Post#227 » by Courtside » Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:11 pm

Even when he comes back, he'll probably be a Restricted FA of Milwaukee's.
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Post#228 » by itbobby007 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:20 pm

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Post#229 » by 01adam » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:29 pm

I bet blazers fail to resign batum so if that happens I'd enjoy it very much if they make a run at him
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Post#230 » by YoungD23 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:25 pm

I completely forgot about this guy for awhile and just randomly, his name popped up in my head. Rodney Carney, whatever happened to him? I always thought he was a solid wing, was able to stretch the floor and play solid D and pretty athletic dude. I liked what he did on the floor whenever i seen him play. He seems to be a free agent atm.
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Post#231 » by Kenyon009 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:32 pm

Batum is an all-star waiting to happen, the guy absolutely dominates in Olympic competition and he could easily average 20 or more points if he got the start in Trailblazer land. I would throw 10+ million at him. Another thing I would also do is low ball Wilson Chandler, he just came off a crap season a deal starting at about 7 million could be of good value. He'd be a wonderful option as a backup PF/SF. Just looking at Batum's stats and they are impressive his TS% is at an awesome 58%. This isn't a one year wonder thing either last year it was 56% and the year before it was 65 . That is pretty impressive, he would be the best small forward the Raptors have ever had hands down.

Amir/Val
Bargnani/Chandler
Batum/Chandler
DeRozan/Lambe
Kabongo/Bayless

This team would have a ton of trade able pieces which could be traded for a disgruntled superstar but still have sufficient enough pieces to the point where the said superstar would have good players around him. Say a package of DeRozan, Bargnani, Amir, and future firsts for Carmelo Anthony happens.

Val
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Anthony
Lambe
Kabongo

That still be a strong starting five, pending the young draft picks are good players.
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WT: Thompson Not In SAC's Future Plans 

Post#232 » by Deuces » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:51 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218321/Thompson_May_Be_Out_Of_Kings_Long_Term_Plans

A source says Jason Thompson, who is eligible for a contract extension, will not be offered one by the Kings.

Thompson is no longer starting for Sacramento.



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I know if we did sign him we'd have a log jam at the 4. But I really like this kid, he just needs PT and a good team. I remember the forum wanted this guy 1-2 years ago.. Thoughts?
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Re: WT: Thompson Not In SAC's Future Plans 

Post#233 » by Zarko » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:56 pm

Deuces wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218321/Thompson_May_Be_Out_Of_Kings_Long_Term_Plans

A source says Jason Thompson, who is eligible for a contract extension, will not be offered one by the Kings.

Thompson is no longer starting for Sacramento.



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1jf0u9gmF


I know if we did sign him we'd have a log jam at the 4. But I really like this kid, he just needs PT and a good team. I remember the forum wanted this guy 1-2 years ago.. Thoughts?


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Re: WT: Thompson Not In SAC's Future Plans 

Post#234 » by xAIRNESSx » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:12 pm

What ever happened to this guy? I remember he was tearing it up in fantasy a few years ago and then just fell off.
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Post#235 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:17 pm

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Re: WT: Thompson Not In SAC's Future Plans 

Post#236 » by Kabookalu » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:22 pm

I think he has promise but he replicates the same strengths and limitations as our own Ed Davis.
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Post#237 » by junot111 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:49 pm

We already have a log jam at the 4. I like him but there's no place for him here
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Re: WT: Thompson Not In SAC's Future Plans 

Post#238 » by Marlo Stanfield » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:53 pm

Choker wrote:I think he has promise but he replicates the same strengths and limitations as our own Ed Davis.


Trade Ed for another 2012 draft pick and bring in Thompson for peanuts. YEZZIRR!
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Re: WT: Thompson Not In SAC's Future Plans 

Post#239 » by Mr Swagtastic » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:02 pm

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Choker wrote:I think he has promise but he replicates the same strengths and limitations as our own Ed Davis.


Trade Ed for another 2012 draft pick and bring in Thompson for peanuts. YEZZIRR!


Yeah but I don't think we are going to get the value Ed Davis is worth. So far Ed has been subpar teams may have soured on him. If we can't get a early to late teens at worst pick for Ed I say screw it and keep him. Thompson isn't that good where we should just throw Ed Davis away for a later pick just to get JT.

Honestly I see Thompson going to a team that needs a PF GSW needs help in their front court and so does NJ and a lot of other team so I think there could be a market for JT to get a bigger role besides here.
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Re: Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas 

Post#240 » by Ell Curry » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:58 pm

I completely agree on Batum. He's insanely efficient on offense, his usage and PER are higher this year and he's a good 3 point shooter who plays good D. Sign him to a 5 year 50 million (Afflalo, a similar player, but 3 years older got 5 years and between 38-43 depending on incentives) and you get him from age 24-28. Perfect role player and low-risk.

Draft the best player available in this draft and the next, let Calderon run out his contract unless he can be traded for an expiring and a pick (Lakers for Walton + 2 minimum guys + a first works for me), let James Johnson and Bayless go (or again, preferably trade them for expiring contracts and a cheap, cost-controlled player) and amnesty Kleiza's last year if he picks up his option. Then you go into 2013 Free Agency at around 46 million (48-49 if you can trade some combo of Calderon, Bayless and Johnson for expirings and a pick/rookie contract player), looking like this:

Valenciaunas-Amir (10 Million)
Bargnani-Davis (14 MIllion)
Batum-???? (10 Million)
Derozan-???? (4 Million)
????---???? (0 Million)
+ 2012 Lottery Pick (3 Million)
+ 2013 Lottery Pick (3 Million
+ 2012 2nd Rounder (1 Million)
+ 2013 2nd Rounder (1 Million)

Assuming the cap goes up to around 59 million that year, you're looking at about 13 million to spend on a perimeter player. Only Derozan becomes a free agent the next year, so if there's no decent options who will come to Toronto, he can be traded for a rookie contract player and the 12-13 million left after incremental rookie scale raises allows the Raps to give it another go. If Bayless really breaks out, pay him the 6-7 it would take to keep him and you've still got 6-7 to spend and 3 million can always be freed up by trading one of the lotto picks or Davis, or 6 million by trading Amir, for future picks.

Pick up good rotation players on the draft picks and the 2013 and you've got a nice, Philly/Denver/Portland type team with no stars, but 9 rotation players 28 and under. If one of the picks brings in a star, sky's the limit. Ideally, Casey or a similarly decent coach would not have been brought in until that summer and the tank the next 2 years would be better, but still. That's an exciting team. With 9 decent players, 3 of whom are really young in Valenciaunas, 2012 pick and 2013 pick, you've got the potential to make an offer to a team for a star, as well.

Positionally, we need perimeter players, but you have to get the best player available at your pick. If it's a PF this year, Davis or Bargnani can be dealt for a pick or rookie contract talent.

This rebuild could actually work. Not many teams have the chance to get 4 productive inside players, 2 top 10 picks, a swingman who can score off the bench and have 20-23 million to spend on either a max free agent and a player just above MLE value, or 2 solid starters at 10-11 million each. It's all about assets at this point. The Raptors need to use their cap space and lottery picks wisely, and then can go up to the tax without going over by giving 2 of Jonas V and the Lotto picks the raises they'll want. Besides, as Marlo said, "That sound like one of them good problems."
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