Raps 2013 Summer League Thread (Roster on Pg 19)

SuperSant · Post #221 » by **SuperSant** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:57 pm

Reignman wrote:
SuperSant wrote:Michael Carter-Williams looks very impressive so far.

I think he is better than Ross and DeRozan.

He's not better than Demar, come on man. Don't screw up summer league with the real thing.

Sorry, I meant I think he will be better than Demar, not currently better. Mostly because of his ability to handle the ball better, also looks a lot smoother and more natural handling the ball, which I like in a SG.

Post #222 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:59 pm

SuperSant wrote:Sorry, I meant I think he will be better than Demar, not currently better. Mostly because of his ability to handle the ball better, also looks a lot smoother and more natural handling the ball, which I like in a SG.

He's a PG not a SG

Inevitable · Post #223 » by **Inevitable** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:59 pm

I thought MCW was a PG

Steve Urkel · Post #224 » by **Steve Urkel** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:02 pm

SuperSant wrote:
Reignman wrote:
SuperSant wrote:Michael Carter-Williams looks very impressive so far.

I think he is better than Ross and DeRozan.

He's not better than Demar, come on man. Don't screw up summer league with the real thing.

Sorry, I meant I think he will be better than Demar, not currently better. Mostly because of his ability to handle the ball better, also looks a lot smoother and more natural handling the ball, which I like in a SG.

He should be better at handling the ball considering he's a 6'6 PG not an SG. He really needs to work on his shooting percentage though but he's a very interesting prospect.

Just Win Baby · Post #225 » by **Just Win Baby** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:10 pm

If my memory serves me correctly....DeRozan torched the summer league in his rookie year lol

Troubadour · Post #226 » by **Troubadour** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:13 pm

Really hope Julyan Stone is on the team. Tall PGs are always fun to watch.

Post #227 » by **pbj** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:14 pm

Terrible1 wrote:If my memory serves me correctly....DeRozan torched the summer league in his rookie year lol

Here you go..
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2010/pla ... r_derozan/

4games..
21ppg
4.5rpg
58% FG
40% 3PT
63% FT on 9.5FTA

Edit: oh wait thats his 2nd year
Rookie year..

5games
17ppg
4.8rpg
49% FG

EDIT2: Oh.. and Anthony Randolph averaged 27ppg in 4 that year
EDIT3: And Anthony Morrow averaged 24.7ppg in 3 that year

Post #228 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:16 pm

Olynyk does play like Luis Scola with all those hand-offs, weave screens and button-hook cuts to seal his defender. Moves like him too.

I don't really see Siva playing much in the NBA. He has a nice quick release to counter against longer defenders closing out, but has a lot trouble actually making shots.

Steve Urkel · Post #229 » by **Steve Urkel** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:17 pm

Troubadour wrote:Really hope Julyan Stone is on the team. Tall PGs are always fun to watch.

Me too, I have no idea what this guys game is like outside of the handful of youtube clips I've seen.

Steve Urkel · Post #230 » by **Steve Urkel** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:23 pm

Undefeated wrote:Olynyk does play like Luis Scola with all those hand-offs, weave screens and button-hook cuts to seal his defender. Moves like him too.

I don't really see Siva playing much in the NBA. He has a nice quick release to counter against longer defenders closing out, but has a lot trouble actually making shots.

Olynyk has been fun to watch so far this summer league, the kid can play. I'm just concerned about him being matched up against bigger NBA bodies and how that limits him offensively.

Post #231 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:24 pm

Wow Olynyk with that impressive Dirk series.

scopy · Post #232 » by **scopy** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:27 pm

Steve Urkel wrote:
Undefeated wrote:Olynyk does play like Luis Scola with all those hand-offs, weave screens and button-hook cuts to seal his defender. Moves like him too.

I don't really see Siva playing much in the NBA. He has a nice quick release to counter against longer defenders closing out, but has a lot trouble actually making shots.

Olynyk has been fun to watch so far this summer league, the kid can play. I'm just concerned about him being matched up against bigger NBA bodies and how that limits him offensively.

Yeah I agree, he has played well. But I think he will be more limited defensively rather offensively. I think he will be able to score in the NBA.

Steve Urkel · Post #233 » by **Steve Urkel** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:28 pm

Undefeated wrote:Wow Olynyk with that impressive Dirk series.

It's almost sad that the Mavs didn't keep him. Dirk would have been the perfect guy to learn from to expand his game, he definitely has skill.

Steve Urkel · Post #234 » by **Steve Urkel** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:29 pm

scopy wrote:
Steve Urkel wrote:
Undefeated wrote:Olynyk does play like Luis Scola with all those hand-offs, weave screens and button-hook cuts to seal his defender. Moves like him too.

I don't really see Siva playing much in the NBA. He has a nice quick release to counter against longer defenders closing out, but has a lot trouble actually making shots.

Olynyk has been fun to watch so far this summer league, the kid can play. I'm just concerned about him being matched up against bigger NBA bodies and how that limits him offensively.

Yeah I agree, he has played well. But I think he will be more limited defensively rather offensively. I think he will be able to score in the NBA.

Oh yeah for sure, he's never been projected to be much of a factor on defense. I'm just concerned that his play in the post will lose its effectiveness against bigger NBA bodies.

Juscius · Post #235 » by **Juscius** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:30 pm

I kinda dislike that Raptors are sending JV to summer league. What for? He would improve much more if he started training camp with Lithuanian National team on time imho.
What JV can get at summer league? There won't be many good (if any at all?) good rivals. All teams (Raptors included) will be full of chuckers who will have a single goal: to show off what they are capable off.
And there is not enough time to make many setups and various combinations. And JV as a center, won't even see the ball often. Not expecting him to shoot more than 10-12 times a game because simply he will be getting the ball as much as in main Raptors teams (in other words - rarely). So how this will beneficial for him I still cant see

Just Win Baby · Post #236 » by **Just Win Baby** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:33 pm

Our coaching staff/development team > LTH national team....hands down.

Post #237 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:35 pm

Steve Urkel wrote:
Undefeated wrote:Wow Olynyk with that impressive Dirk series.

It's almost sad that the Mavs didn't keep him. Dirk would have been the perfect guy to learn from to expand his game, he definitely has skill.

Yeah, he's been impressing me. You're right it would've really benefited him with Dirk giving him tips how to score in the post with those fakes and counters since he already has some sound footwork. He's not the most athletic guy with the hops, but the way he moves on the floor for a player his size he's very coordinated. I like how fluid he is and not stiff/rigid like most 7-footers. Guys like Ryan Anderson and Andrea Bargnani run the floor awkwardly lol.

Steve Urkel · Post #238 » by **Steve Urkel** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:36 pm

Juscius wrote:I kinda dislike that Raptors are sending JV to summer league. What for? He would improve much more if he started training camp with Lithuanian National team on time imho.
What JV can get at summer league? There won't be many good (if any at all?) good rivals. All teams (Raptors included) will be full of chuckers who will have a single goal: to show off what they are capable off.
And there is not enough time to make many setups and various combinations. And JV as a center, won't even see the ball often. Not expecting him to shoot more than 10-12 times a game because simply he will be getting the ball as much as in main Raptors teams (in other words - rarely). So how this will beneficial for him I still cant see

I think it will be a good opportunity to improve his post game and develop other weak areas of his game as long as he gets the touches. If he plays for the Lithuanian National team they will be playing to his strengths and he won't exactly be learning/trying anything new.

Post #239 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:42 pm

Steve Urkel wrote:
Juscius wrote:I kinda dislike that Raptors are sending JV to summer league. What for? He would improve much more if he started training camp with Lithuanian National team on time imho.
What JV can get at summer league? There won't be many good (if any at all?) good rivals. All teams (Raptors included) will be full of chuckers who will have a single goal: to show off what they are capable off.
And there is not enough time to make many setups and various combinations. And JV as a center, won't even see the ball often. Not expecting him to shoot more than 10-12 times a game because simply he will be getting the ball as much as in main Raptors teams (in other words - rarely). So how this will beneficial for him I still cant see

I think it will be a good opportunity to improve his post game and develop other weak areas of his game as long as he gets the touches. If he plays for the Lithuanian National team they will be playing to his strengths and he won't exactly be learning/trying anything new.

Yeah, I think depends on what they have him do. If he's to focus on particular things then that's great. Give me the post game. And he'd be facing a higher level of athleticism here than overseas, a point of weakness. I would typically agree with bigs being ignored in SL but the kid is our potential franchise guy so we'll see who is stupid enough to ignore him.

Tony Mitchell looks good today. Would like to swipe him.

Post #240 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:44 pm

I'm kind of liking this camera angle. You get a better sense of how big these guys are. Kravtsov (sp?) is a monster.