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Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40)

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Donald Sterling's punishment was...

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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#221 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:26 pm

Risk101 wrote:That analogy is dumb because no one should deal with abuse on any level, if you know that an individual is abusive you leave. Its not like they were married, you move on, she stayed for the money and was ok with his racist ideology. I'm not saying racism is the same as gold digging, I'm merely stating she is in the wrong as well for accepting the money knowing he was a racist.


I generally agree with your side of the argument, but I am sympathetic to those who can't get out of abusive relationships, because going backwards and into a vacuum financially is clearly a scary thing, especially if a girl like this comes from a bad situation family/parents wise and can't just go there until she's on her feet. It's easy to say just take the leap until you get on your feet with a job and apartment, etc. but that's a hard thing for people to do, especially those who've been made to feel weak by their abusers

Of course in the case of someone like Sterling's GF, it's more likely she has tons of rich connections from being a hot LA chick, so I guess it's harder to let her off the hook
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#222 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:31 pm

I am so confused. The woman is just as at fault because she was in a relationship with a racist? That is flat out insane. Donald Sterling is a racist. He would be a racist with this woman, or without her. All she has done is let the world know, yet again, that Donald Sterling is a racist. Nothing about her matters to discussing Sterling and his racism. These are his thoughts and words.

And if you think the conversation was contrived or whatever, and Sterling couldn't have said something so crazy sounding, read the deadspin link I posted earlier, or just read this from a previous trial deposition:

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Fairview4Life wrote:Deadspin's complete guide to Sterling's racist quotes over the years.

http://deadspin.com/your-complete-quota ... 1568047212

Holy **** expand Tim Marchman's post in the comments section. :lol: :crazy:


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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#223 » by Wo1verine » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:36 pm

Sounds like a racist, but dates a half black girl and employs black basketball players.

Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#224 » by Illuminati_ » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:37 pm

So the girl will take the fall for all of this. What a swift move by sterling and his Pr crew lmao.

Shes a whore/prostitue call it what you will. But this isnt the first time don wasnt afraid to voice what other owners say privately.

As well all know through MLSE owners can control voice boxes and shape stories/trades. Donald will have the girl take the fall and soon will cater to blacks.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#225 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:38 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Sounds like a racist, but dates a half black girl and employs black basketball players.

Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them.


Why would you think that?
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#226 » by beanbag » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:38 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Sounds like a racist, but dates a half black girl and employs black basketball players.

Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them.


Google slavery.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#227 » by Risk101 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:41 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:I am so confused. The woman is just as at fault because she was in a relationship with a racist? That is flat out insane. Donald Sterling is a racist. He would be a racist with this woman, or without her. All she has done is let the world know, yet again, that Donald Sterling is a racist. Nothing about her matters to discussing Sterling and his racism. These are his thoughts and words.

And if you think the conversation was contrived or whatever, and Sterling couldn't have said something so crazy sounding, read the deadspin link I posted earlier, or just read this from a previous trial deposition:

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GREY 1769 wrote:Holy **** expand Tim Marchman's post in the comments section. :lol: :crazy:


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I am so confused. The woman is just as at fault because she was in a relationship with a racist? That is flat out insane.


People are just as mad at her as they are with him because she knew what kind of person he was. She's not innocent at all for her actions, it was fine when she was getting things paid for.

Nothing will change the fact that Sterling is a piece of **** racist, just as much as she's ok with the racism as long as the money is right.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#228 » by Illuminati_ » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:42 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Sounds like a racist, but dates a half black girl and employs black basketball players.

Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them.


He basically owns them literally and figuratively. These players arent equal partners lol they basically are submissive to Sterling as he is their boss. Would employing a team without any blacks make sense financially?

This is a girl he essentially pays for sex. Just like that deadspin link earlier his exact words were, " i use her body for sex." Slave owners in the past have had sex with female slaves.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#229 » by Wo1verine » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:42 pm

beanbag wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:Sounds like a racist, but dates a half black girl and employs black basketball players.

Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them.


Google slavery.

these guys aren't slaves they're getting paid millions.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#230 » by 6ixSideSniper » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:42 pm

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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#231 » by yt_boi » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:42 pm

Can you believe he said he loves black people and was in a relationship with a half black half mexican woman? Obvi very racist. And hes donated millions to charity including black charities. Like the united negro college fund. Obvi covering up
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#232 » by Sakic » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:44 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:I am so confused. The woman is just as at fault because she was in a relationship with a racist? That is flat out insane. Donald Sterling is a racist. He would be a racist with this woman, or without her. All she has done is let the world know, yet again, that Donald Sterling is a racist. Nothing about her matters to discussing Sterling and his racism. These are his thoughts and words.

And if you think the conversation was contrived or whatever, and Sterling couldn't have said something so crazy sounding, read the deadspin link I posted earlier, or just read this from a previous trial deposition:

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GREY 1769 wrote:Holy **** expand Tim Marchman's post in the comments section. :lol: :crazy:


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Sterling is a racist ****. We all know this. She knew this too and baited him into saying things that she could later use against him. Here's an example: at around 5:48 she continually asks him whats wrong with her skin color to try to get a good response out of him. sterling doesn't bite and says something like "There's nothing wrong with you, or your skin color. Why are you saying these things? To upset me?"

Later she brings up Magic Johnson, and successfully gets a good response from him.

If she hadn't baited him, he wouldn't have said those things. That's why people have an issue with her.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#233 » by beanbag » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:47 pm

Wo1verine wrote:
beanbag wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:Sounds like a racist, but dates a half black girl and employs black basketball players.

Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them.


Google slavery.

these guys aren't slaves they're getting paid millions.


No, NBA players are not slaves, but that isn't what I said.

I was referring to you suggesting 'Usually racists wouldn't have ANY black people around them or working for them' and simply pointed out that racist slave owners did in fact have many black people working for them and also slept with many of them.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#234 » by LakerLegend » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:48 pm

Read this if you have even the slightest inclination of defending him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4187729
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#235 » by Rapsalot » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:07 pm

Taking with some friends I know they can't force him to sell but if the NBA was smart they would demand he go into binding arbitration on the fair value in the market for the Clippers organization. Then all 29 other teams would have to pony up and own the team until a reasonable replacement owner could be found. I would think a team in LA would be easy to find an owner!

You can't take it if he won't sell but the other 29 owners could make it very hard for him to be part of their crowd!
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#236 » by G R E Y » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:08 pm

So FluLikeSymptoms posted an update about the story, which now alleges that the lady is trying to get even, that the Sterling family issuing her (separate suit from that of Sterling's wife against her), and that it's not Sterling on the recording:

"Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings. It is the antithesis of who he is, what he believes and how he has lived his life. He feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributed to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them.


http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10843525/nba-investigating-offensive-audio-recording-allegedly-los-angeles-clippers-owner-donald-sterling

It's just, given his history, how can anyone take the bolded part seriously? His ONLY defense here is proving that it's not him on the recording. All other details are red herrings to this issue.
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Re: Racism alive in Silver's NBA 

Post#237 » by hankscorpioLA » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:08 pm

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JV4MVP wrote:Listened to the first two minutes. Curious how much the gf was involved in setting him up to say absurd things.

I'm not going to defend Sterling but on issues of race people need to know that you can't change the opinions of a 80-yr old. FWIW he's paying out millions of dollars to African-American players and a coach. Looks like a case where Sterling was lashing out at this gold digger and made some shameful comments in the heat of the moment.


Yeah....no.

There is a rich tradition in the United States of racist white men paying money to be entertained by the athletic exploits of black men in much the same way that ordinary people pay money to watch animals perform in the circus.


Can't buy the exploitation argument when you're paying $80,000,000 in salary to African Americans.

Exploitation is minimum wage/slavery and not $10,000,000 a year contract for a tall guy to put a ball in a hoop.


I didn't say it was exploitation.

I'm saying its entertainment. Its a product. A commodity. Nothing more.
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Re: Racism alive in Silver's NBA 

Post#238 » by hankscorpioLA » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:11 pm

jonny three time wrote:Some of you guys either didn't listen to the tape or are missing the context.

He doesn't want his girlfriend seen with black guys because it makes him look bad. As in his buddies will think that his girlfriend is sleeping with every black guy around and is only pretending to be his girlfriend, which is probably the case and he knows it, he just doesn't want evidence out there for people to see. If that isn't about being consumed with how your peers see you I don't know what is.


Ya....cuz thinking that isn't racist at all.... :roll:
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#239 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:39 pm

Sakic wrote:If she hadn't baited him, he wouldn't have said those things. That's why people have an issue with her.


He has said those things, or things like it, repeatedly over the course of his life. Even if he hadn't, it's not like people who aren't racist just slip up if they are 'baited' into it. Holy crap.

Lakerfan17 wrote:Read this if you have even the slightest inclination of defending him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4187729


Maybe he's just a racist and she knew it. Who gives a **** if she baited him into yet another 'you can handle the truth' slip up?
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Re: Racism alive in Silver's NBA 

Post#240 » by jonny three time » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:48 pm

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jonny three time wrote:Some of you guys either didn't listen to the tape or are missing the context.

He doesn't want his girlfriend seen with black guys because it makes him look bad. As in his buddies will think that his girlfriend is sleeping with every black guy around and is only pretending to be his girlfriend, which is probably the case and he knows it, he just doesn't want evidence out there for people to see. If that isn't about being consumed with how your peers see you I don't know what is.


Ya....cuz thinking that isn't racist at all.... :roll:


I never said he wasn't racist. He is. I was just saying that it wasn't the main motivation behind that rant. He's just worried about his girlfriend embarassing him by flaunting her social life around. It isn't a rational way to think (although it's almost a certainty that shes getting action on the side) but it isn't coming from a real hateful place either, just a paranoid and insecure place. I actually thought he was going to sound more hateful than he did once reading that Donald Sterling goes on a racist rant. He just seemed like a sad old man holding to old stereotypes.

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