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Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#221 » by Tha Cynic » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:29 pm

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He's a vastly superior player to McCaw in every way possible. There's no excuse for him getting less minutes than McCaw, particularly on a team that has no primary scoring option at the moment outside of a 33 year old Kyle Lowry.


To be fair...it would be a bit much to throw TD2 out there for the minutes Patty McCaw is playing. There are still a lot of nuances to the game TD2 needs to get accustomed to. McCaw got more experience right now being in his 4th NBA season.

TD2 will have his time once he builds up trust with Nicky Nurse.

At the moment, McCaw hasn't done anything drastic to lose playing time. Part of him getting so many minutes is the Raps are so incredibly shorthanded.


What does experience matter when Davis has clearly been a better player on the court? It's not even close.

What exactly does Davis need to do other than play vastly better than McCaw, which he has already done? Isn't that how trust is earned - by simply being better than the other player?

We're not talking about two similarly talented players here.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#222 » by will » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:37 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:He's a vastly superior player to McCaw in every way possible. There's no excuse for him getting less minutes than McCaw, particularly on a team that has no primary scoring option at the moment outside of a 33 year old Kyle Lowry.


To be fair...it would be a bit much to throw TD2 out there for the minutes Patty McCaw is playing. There are still a lot of nuances to the game TD2 needs to get accustomed to. McCaw got more experience right now being in his 4th NBA season.

TD2 will have his time once he builds up trust with Nicky Nurse.

At the moment, McCaw hasn't done anything drastic to lose playing time. Part of him getting so many minutes is the Raps are so incredibly shorthanded.


What does experience matter when Davis has clearly been a better player on the court? It's not even close.

What exactly does Davis need to do other than play vastly better than McCaw, which he has already done? Isn't that how trust is earned - by simply being better than the other player?

We're not talking about two similarly talented players here.



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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#223 » by Clay Davis » Wed Jan 1, 2020 9:21 pm

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Only morons think that they have overlapping skillsets and that they should be used as substitutes for one another. This game reinforced the opinion who anyone who doesn't habitually drink kool-aid laced with Clorox that Pat McCaw is a serviceable defender who can be relied upon to make good reads and tough passes.

Why compare a 6'7 swingman with a 6'4 combo-guard? It's actually bewildering. Happy new year.

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#224 » by dTox » Wed Jan 1, 2020 10:53 pm

It would be for the betterment of the team to play McCaw fewer minutes
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#225 » by mathgeek » Wed Jan 1, 2020 11:38 pm

I feel that McCaw was probably promised minutes from the time he was signed, unfortunately due to the success of the team and his injuries that plan got derailed. So now that he's healthy and there's open spots left McCaw is getting the nod over a rookie Davis even though I believe that Davis is the superior player.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#226 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 5:20 am

my belief is that McCaw plays really well in practice. makes shots and takes initiatives. but in games, he becomes a Ben Simmons but in every possible way + with players like FVV and Lowry, every other player is either shooting a 3 or in the PnR. If you aren't the primary ball handler - its hard for players who don't like shooting.


you saw in his summer league games, dude was making redic shots, fadeaways, etc but he is nothing like that in real NBA games.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#227 » by Tanner » Thu Jan 2, 2020 5:33 am

I trust Masai to trade him at the deadline in a lateral move for a player Nurse doesn’t love like his own child (hence will play that player less).
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#228 » by SaveTheHens » Thu Jan 2, 2020 6:14 am

Don't you guys get it? It's about building a process so that we are ready for the playoffs. These games don't matter. Your negativity & mindset wouldn't create a fraction of what we've created. Enjoy letting your ego's loose & stuff, but youre prob the same people wanting to trade Lowry a few years ago, giving up on Freddy when he struggled against Milwaukee, etc etc. It's not about showing up and outcompeting each other for PT right now, it's about giving guys the run they need so they feel comfortable out there. Nurse see's something in McCaw, maybe in practice, maybe in past games, and he wants to integrate that. Maybe McCaw's a bit nervous out there, maybe Nurse will give up on him eventually, but for now get over your ego's and respect what the process has delivered and stop panicing at any tiny sign that things aren't perfect.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#229 » by pingpongrac » Thu Jan 2, 2020 6:35 am

I don't get the McCaw hate to this extreme degree. He's had a few brutal games (first game back vs LAC and Xmas vs BOS), but he's generally been pretty solid on both ends. He's not a great offensive player, but his .565 TS% is slightly above league average and he makes good reads with the ball. Sometimes (like in the loss to the Celtics) he doesn't take open shots, but he's been much better with that lately. I think his NetRTG and +/- are a bit deceiving too. Two of his worst games in that respect were actually games where he was playing very well, but everyone else that he was sharing the floor with was awful. Against the Mavs, he was 3/6 from the field with 8 PTS, 2 REB, 1 AST, 4 STL and 0 TOV while the rest of the starters (sans Lowry because of his Q4 outburst) were 8/32 with 22 PTS and 8 TOV. Similarly, McCaw had 13 PTS on 5/9 shooting the other night against OKC while the rest of the starters shot 39% and committed 9 TOV.

With how undermanned we are lately, McCaw getting 25-30 MPG should be expected. Davis is the better scorer and makes our offence a bit more dangerous, but McCaw can be counted on to make the right read a bit more often and he's a smarter defender. If McCaw was in Davis' situation late in the OKC game, I'm 99.9% sure he would have fouled right away. Little things like that are the difference between a win and a loss, which is probably why McCaw has been getting the start and finishing most games while Davis is on the bench. The opportunities Davis is getting are PERFECT for a rookie on a team that won the Championship 6 months ago. He's generally playing 15-20 MPG with the occasional ~30-minute game if he's hot or 10-minute game if he's not.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#230 » by dTox » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:26 am

He was unplayable tonight, was cooked on both ends of the court.

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#231 » by spicy4MVP » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:27 am

anyone that picks on Mccaw doesnt understand basketball. his game shows beyond the scoring and any knowledgable fan will notice all the small things that he does to contribute to the greater good. Next time you get frustrated by his missed shot, look at what he does defensively
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#232 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:42 am

spicy4MVP wrote:anyone that picks on Mccaw doesnt understand basketball. his game shows beyond the scoring and any knowledgable fan will notice all the small things that he does to contribute to the greater good. Next time you get frustrated by his missed shot, look at what he does defensively

Lol at this scrub being talked about like he’s the Marc Gasol of guards for no reason at all
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#233 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:44 am

spicy4MVP wrote:anyone that picks on Mccaw doesnt understand basketball. his game shows beyond the scoring and any knowledgable fan will notice all the small things that he does to contribute to the greater good. Next time you get frustrated by his missed shot, look at what he does defensively


he's still a bum.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#234 » by dTox » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:47 am

spicy4MVP wrote:anyone that picks on Mccaw doesnt understand basketball. his game shows beyond the scoring and any knowledgable fan will notice all the small things that he does to contribute to the greater good. Next time you get frustrated by his missed shot, look at what he does defensively
Anyone who makes a lazy argument with a blanket statement like "anyone that picks on McCaw doesn't understand basketball", clearly doesn't understand basketball

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#235 » by VeOlOeV » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:50 am

This is going to be the most annoying thread of the year, reactions after every single game
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#236 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:53 am

VeOlOeV wrote:This is going to be the most annoying thread of the year, reactions after every single game

If he’s still playing any minutes for this team at all in a few months, something went very wrong.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#237 » by Clementine64 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 2:59 am

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VeOlOeV wrote:This is going to be the most annoying thread of the year, reactions after every single game

If he’s still playing any minutes for this team at all in a few months, something went very wrong.
He's single handedly destroyed the offense, so there's that. At least he's effective doing something.

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#238 » by spicy4MVP » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:17 am

Clementine64 wrote:
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VeOlOeV wrote:This is going to be the most annoying thread of the year, reactions after every single game

If he’s still playing any minutes for this team at all in a few months, something went very wrong.
He's single handedly destroyed the offense, so there's that. At least he's effective doing something.

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Are you seriously going to blame McCaw for raptors **** bricks tonight? They set the 3rd worst 3 point field attempt % for 40+ shots in leagues history and he went 1 of 4 opposed to the rest of the team going like 5 for 40. Our offense got shut down tonight. Almost eeryone was terrible on offense. U r not going to blame lowry fvv og davis but u r going to blame mccaw for destroying the offense. Yea ok there bud.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#239 » by BigDocta898 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:19 am

We should try and trade him for Vince Carter

Vince would of hit 5 threes tonight minimum
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#240 » by Raptorstorm » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:26 am

I don't understand Mccaw's game and offence therefore I am dumb and don't understand Basketball. I am an idiot at best.
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