Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

[Raps in 4]

I like the idea of Lowry to Miami since I don't mind cheering for Miami. Their team was built the same way as ours.

I really dislike Embiid and Simmons so cheering for them would be a little harder.

[TheYellowMamba]

I honestly think Raptors are going to stay put. The asking price for Lowry is too high, teams can get him cheap next year

[Carter_Kobe]

Herro is the most overrated young player in the NBA. He had one hot stretch in the playoffs last year. He's been crap the rest of his career.

I'd still take him in a Lowry trade though because you aren't getting more than that (if you even get that).

He does seem a bit overrated. I see him as a starter throughout his career. Absolute max he becomes a Hayward level player.


I'd take that for Lowry. Better than losing him for nothing. We need as many prospects as we can get to rebuild this team and get back to a championship level


Powell for a late 1st (I'm praying for FRPs) would be nice. Having 3 good players, cash, pics and couple of young players would do wonders for our long-term outlook

[Raps in 4]

Herro is the most overrated young player in the NBA. He had one hot stretch in the playoffs last year. He's been crap the rest of his career.

I'd still take him in a Lowry trade though because you aren't getting more than that (if you even get that).

He does seem a bit overrated. I see him as a starter throughout his career. Absolute max he becomes a Hayward level player.


I'd take that for Lowry. Better than losing him for nothing. We need as many prospects as we can get to rebuild this team and get back to a championship level


Powell for a late 1st (I'm praying for FRPs) would be nice. Having 3 good players, cash, pics and a few good couple of young players would do wonders for our longterm outlook

I don't see Herro ever being an NBA starter, at least not on a winning team. His defence sucks and his offence is streaky. The physical tools aren't there to have me believe he'll amount to anything more than that. He's your prototypical bench sharpshooter (you could start him in some matchups).

[dkb9696]

If you get Herro for Kyle, you take it and run.

if you can flip him sure. He is a trash NBA basketball player. People on here need to stop with the Herro love. Wish the kid the best, but do not want him on the Raptors.

[Pointgod]

He is the one great asset the Heat have to move. To get him will cost a bit, which is why I suggested Lowry and Powell (with Davis as a toss in). From the raps perspective, all three are due for contracts the team is probably reluctant to provide.

The problem with Herro for the Heat is his development is behind where the Heat are now in terms of their core Butler & Adebayo. Butler needs to win now. His window is closing, and Lowry and Powell would help the Heat's ability to contend now, especially with so many question marks on other teams and no clear dominate contender, like GSW had been.

Norm will get you picks. Don't throw him in with KL. Let KL play out his own value. The minute you throw in Norm you are getting ripped off.

I would rather pay Lowry and Powell for Herro, than missing out on Herro and getting late FRPs for Lowry and Powell.

Well it’s interesting if you get Herro he essentially becomes part of the core moving forward while you’re still looking for a superstar. While if you get picks and other assets for Norm and Kyle separately, you use those picks for a superstar

[dkb9696]

If you get Herro for Kyle, you take it and run.

if you can flip him sure. He is a trash NBA basketball player. People on here need to stop with the Herro love. Wish the kid the best, but do not want him on the Raptors. Is it because he is white and a rapper made a video that people want him on the team?
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[dkb9696]

If you get Herro for Kyle, you take it and run.

if you can flip him sure. He is a trash NBA basketball player. People on here need to stop with the Herro love. Wish the kid the best, but do not want him on the Raptors. Is it because he is white and a rapper made a video that people want him on the team?

[Rapsfan07]

I'm hoping we can pump up his value along with someone like Boucher. Maybe next year when Lavine is a free agent, we can offer Herro, Boucher and a pick or something.

We're trading Herro already?!

Classic raptors realgm speculation, talking about trading away a player we're never gonna get in the first place.

And you know that how exactly?

[Bruin]

There’s starting to be a lot of smoke regarding a Miami deal. If we can get Herro out of it I’ll be more than happy. At least gives us a player with strong value to build on or to flip for another prospect or pick

[RonaldArtest]

I honestly think Raptors are going to stay put. The asking price for Lowry is too high, teams can get him cheap next year

Many contenders would need his Bird Rights to sign him

[Jay_Hawk]

I'm fully, 100% confident that whoever trades for Lowry will re-sign him. With that being said, here's what I'd want from Philly or Miami:

From Miami I want Dragic, Herro, Precious and a pick (first preferably, but a 2nd will do). It's a lot, but again, I'm operating under the assumption Miami re-signs Kyle.

From Philly I want Maxey, Thybulle, Green, and picks. Again, the price is high because I fully expect Kyle to re-sign with whoever trades for him. Also, you're going to have to pay extra if you're going to force our fanbase into watching the GROAT play for someone else within our division.

That's it. I know it's a lot, but if I'm going to watch Kyle play for a rival for the next 2-3 years it better be worth it.

[mademan]

I'm fully, 100% confident that whoever trades for Lowry will re-sign him. With that being said, here's what I'd want from Philly or Miami:

From Miami I want Dragic, Herro, Precious and a pick (first preferably, but a 2nd will do). It's a lot, but again, I'm operating under the assumption Miami re-signs Kyle.

From Philly I want Maxey, Thybulle, Green, and picks. Again, the price is high because I fully expect Kyle to re-sign with whoever trades for him. Also, you're going to have to pay extra if you're going to force our fanbase into watching the GROAT play for someone else within our division.

That's it. I know it's a lot, but if I'm going to watch Kyle play for a rival for the next 2-3 years it better be worth it.

ya gonna keep dreaming bruh. Herro's not coming, and we're not getting Maxey/Thybulle and multiple picks, lol. People need to settle in and accept we're gonna get some meh prospect (like Maxey or Precious) and a 1st, which is fine, imo.

[Jay_Hawk]

I'm fully, 100% confident that whoever trades for Lowry will re-sign him. With that being said, here's what I'd want from Philly or Miami:

From Miami I want Dragic, Herro, Precious and a pick (first preferably, but a 2nd will do). It's a lot, but again, I'm operating under the assumption Miami re-signs Kyle.

From Philly I want Maxey, Thybulle, Green, and picks. Again, the price is high because I fully expect Kyle to re-sign with whoever trades for him. Also, you're going to have to pay extra if you're going to force our fanbase into watching the GROAT play for someone else within our division.

That's it. I know it's a lot, but if I'm going to watch Kyle play for a rival for the next 2-3 years it better be worth it.

ya gonna keep dreaming bruh. Herro's not coming, and we're not getting Maxey/Thybulle and multiple picks, lol. People need to settle in and accept we're gonna get some meh prospect (like Maxey or Precious) and a 1st, which is fine, imo.

You don't think whoever trades for Kyle will re-sign him? Because I do, and so to me his value is at least what I suggested.

[mademan]

I'm fully, 100% confident that whoever trades for Lowry will re-sign him. With that being said, here's what I'd want from Philly or Miami:

From Miami I want Dragic, Herro, Precious and a pick (first preferably, but a 2nd will do). It's a lot, but again, I'm operating under the assumption Miami re-signs Kyle.

From Philly I want Maxey, Thybulle, Green, and picks. Again, the price is high because I fully expect Kyle to re-sign with whoever trades for him. Also, you're going to have to pay extra if you're going to force our fanbase into watching the GROAT play for someone else within our division.

That's it. I know it's a lot, but if I'm going to watch Kyle play for a rival for the next 2-3 years it better be worth it.

ya gonna keep dreaming bruh. Herro's not coming, and we're not getting Maxey/Thybulle and multiple picks, lol. People need to settle in and accept we're gonna get some meh prospect (like Maxey or Precious) and a 1st, which is fine, imo.

You don't think whoever trades for Kyle will re-sign him? Because I do, and so to me his value is at least what I suggested.

Raps have 3 days to trade him or they most likely lose him for nothing. At the end of the day, even if the Raps demands start high, with the way the season has gone, they should have more urgency to trade him than Miami or Philly should have to trade for him. Especially if the cost is that high

[Jay_Hawk]

ya gonna keep dreaming bruh. Herro's not coming, and we're not getting Maxey/Thybulle and multiple picks, lol. People need to settle in and accept we're gonna get some meh prospect (like Maxey or Precious) and a 1st, which is fine, imo.

You don't think whoever trades for Kyle will re-sign him? Because I do, and so to me his value is at least what I suggested.

Raps have 3 days to trade him or they most likely lose him for nothing. At the end of the day, even if the Raps demands start high, with the way the season has gone, they should have more urgency to trade him than Miami or Philly should have to trade for him. Especially if the cost is that high

Holy hell do I disagree. This is a sellers market, and we have two teams that are rivals bidding against each other. Seriously, if you're Miami or Philly aren't you afraid the other team gets Kyle? Aren't you going to overpay a bit to make sure the other team--a team you more than likely will face in the playoffs!!!--won't get him?

Honestly we're sellers in a sellers market, with two buyers who hate each other and would hate for the other to get Lowry. So, with that, we should be asking for the moon because Philly/Miami should be willing to part with it.

[mademan]

You don't think whoever trades for Kyle will re-sign him? Because I do, and so to me his value is at least what I suggested.

Raps have 3 days to trade him or they most likely lose him for nothing. At the end of the day, even if the Raps demands start high, with the way the season has gone, they should have more urgency to trade him than Miami or Philly should have to trade for him. Especially if the cost is that high

Holy hell do I disagree. This is a sellers market, and we have two teams that are rivals bidding against each other. Seriously, if you're Miami or Philly aren't you afraid the other team gets Kyle? Aren't you going to overpay a bit to make sure the other team--a team you more than likely will face in the playoffs!!!--won't get him?

Honestly we're sellers in a sellers market, with two buyers who hate each other and would hate for the other to get Lowry. So, with that, we should be asking for the moon because Philly/Miami should be willing to part with it.

Miami is an aggressive team, but any other team in their situation wouldnt even approach this trade. They even have cap space in the summer to try and get Lowry themselves. It's absolutely insane you think they would offer Herro/Precious/1st.

And ya, sellers market or not, we're at the trade deadline with 2 expiring contracts (Norm and Lowry) in a position where we will almost certainly not bring back both (one or the other i can see) and pay the ensuing tax for a team that's borderline playoff level right now in a weak East. So ya, Raps have some kind of urgency to get some assets before Lowry is the next vet from the championship team to walk

[billy_hoyle]

You don't think whoever trades for Kyle will re-sign him? Because I do, and so to me his value is at least what I suggested.

Raps have 3 days to trade him or they most likely lose him for nothing. At the end of the day, even if the Raps demands start high, with the way the season has gone, they should have more urgency to trade him than Miami or Philly should have to trade for him. Especially if the cost is that high

Holy hell do I disagree. This is a sellers market, and we have two teams that are rivals bidding against each other. Seriously, if you're Miami or Philly aren't you afraid the other team gets Kyle? Aren't you going to overpay a bit to make sure the other team--a team you more than likely will face in the playoffs!!!--won't get him?

Honestly we're sellers in a sellers market, with two buyers who hate each other and would hate for the other to get Lowry. So, with that, we should be asking for the moon because Philly/Miami should be willing to part with it.

Both these teams are legitimate EC finalists, especially when you add Lowry. Why wouldn't they mortgage some of their future for the chance at having Lowry for a couple years?

I'm with Jayhawk. I think this is a sellers market. What other player that's as impactful as Kyle is on the market? None

Would you guys take back the Kawhi trade just because he left? No of course not. And as he said, its likely not even a 1 year rental, Kyle likely re-signs using bird rights with either team. That's ~3 years of the toughest veteran PG on the market (in the league?) locked up for a few kicks at the can.

How is that not valuable?

[Rapsfan07]

Raps have 3 days to trade him or they most likely lose him for nothing. At the end of the day, even if the Raps demands start high, with the way the season has gone, they should have more urgency to trade him than Miami or Philly should have to trade for him. Especially if the cost is that high

Holy hell do I disagree. This is a sellers market, and we have two teams that are rivals bidding against each other. Seriously, if you're Miami or Philly aren't you afraid the other team gets Kyle? Aren't you going to overpay a bit to make sure the other team--a team you more than likely will face in the playoffs!!!--won't get him?

Honestly we're sellers in a sellers market, with two buyers who hate each other and would hate for the other to get Lowry. So, with that, we should be asking for the moon because Philly/Miami should be willing to part with it.

Both these teams are legitimate EC finalists, especially when you add Lowry. Why wouldn't they mortgage some of their future for the chance at having Lowry for a couple years?

I'm with Jayhawk. I think this is a sellers market. What other player that's as impactful as Kyle is on the market? None

Would you guys take back the Kawhi trade just because he left? No of course not. And as he said, its likely not even a 1 year rental, Kyle likely re-signs using bird rights with either team. That's ~3 years of the toughest veteran PG on the market (in the league?) locked up for a few kicks at the can.

How is that not valuable?

It is a sellers market, but we don't want to push our luck here. Miami has been linked to Dipo and the last thing we need is for the Rockets to swoop in and sell Dipo at a modest price and then we're standing there with our dicks in our hand.

Precious, Herro and a 1st for an expiring Lowry is absolutely unreasonable and it would unwise of us to over play our hand here.

Chris Paul brought back Oubre, Rubio, two nobodies and a 1st. If you can get a package of Herro, Precious, Dragic and Olynyk for Lowry, Powell and Flynn, I'd call that square.

[VanWest82]

This is going to end in Kyle not getting traded and instead being bought out. He just makes too much, but no one wants to believe it because he's meant so much to the Raptors.