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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#221 » by DangerZone13 » Sun Nov 7, 2021 4:57 pm

Nah man, Porzingis is nowhere near what the Raptors need inside. Considering his age, he's not moving very well out there, and certainly not well enough to fit the Raptors defensive schemes. Also ties way too much money into the 5 spot.

I'd take a swing on rehabbing and reshaping Thomas Bryant post-acl repair though.
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Post#222 » by h4rrison » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:01 am

DangerZone13 wrote:Nah man, Porzingis is nowhere near what the Raptors need inside. Considering his age, he's not moving very well out there, and certainly not well enough to fit the Raptors defensive schemes. Also ties way too much money into the 5 spot.

I'd take a swing on rehabbing and reshaping Thomas Bryant post-acl repair though.


I have to agree here. KP is not the answer especially for a 1st. He makes way too much money and does not impact the game like he used to. Our forwards are better players at this point offensively/defensively.

We need a defensive center or playmaking pg. I’d take a stab at Jarret Allen if possible. Maybe give up Siakam or GTJ/picks.
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Post#223 » by Saul Goodman » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:19 am

Collin Sexton looks to be on the outs of Cleveland’s plans. Could we buy low on him as a microwave scorer and sometimes starter?


Flynn
Boucher
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Sexton
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Post#224 » by h4rrison » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:00 am

Saul Goodman wrote:Collin Sexton looks to be on the outs of Cleveland’s plans. Could we buy low on him as a microwave scorer and sometimes starter?


Flynn
Boucher
Top 15 protected


For

Sexton


The have a log jam at C and with Mobley getting better each game, maybe we can take Allen from them?

Sexton
Allen

for

GTJ
Boucher
Flynn
1st unprotected

Yeah.. that's probably not enough.
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Post#225 » by HumbleRen » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:11 am

Saul Goodman wrote:Collin Sexton looks to be on the outs of Cleveland’s plans. Could we buy low on him as a microwave scorer and sometimes starter?


Flynn
Boucher
Top 15 protected


For

Sexton

We would have to pay him, there's no point imo.
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Post#226 » by RonaldArtest » Mon Nov 8, 2021 3:39 am

What about Jarrett Culver for Boucher? Memphis is pretty loaded at the 2 spot with guys like Zaire, Bane and Melton. Adding Boucher gives them some more frontcourt depth, and complements Adams nicely.
For the Raps take a flier on a former top 10 pick.
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Post#227 » by RonaldArtest » Mon Nov 8, 2021 4:46 am

Clippers might want to shed the last year off Bledsoe while still remaining competitive.

Bledsoe + Ibaka + Johnson
for
Dragic + Flynn + Boucher

Keon was a guy I wasn’t against the Raps drafting if they fell in the 9th spot this past draft. He’s got good 2-way potential and is an incredible athlete. Ibaka for C depth is a nice bonus.

Clips shed salary and also add 3 players who can help them win in the now. Flynn could turn into a nice PG to play alongside PG and Kawhi, developing into a pesky defender and spot up shooter.
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Post#228 » by MessiahUjiri » Mon Nov 8, 2021 6:15 am

I think Minnesota would love to pair KAT and Siakam.

There’s a deal to be made around DLo.

Siakam, Malachi Flynn, 2nd + Isaac Bonga (salary filler)
for
DeAngelo, Naz Reid and Jarred Vanderbilt


Minny gets an Edwards-Siakam-KAT core.

For us, all the incoming pieces add value:

Fred / DLo / Banton
Trent / DLo / Svi
OG / Svi Watanabe
Barnes / Achiuwa / Vanderbilt
Reid / Birch / Achiuwa


Trade Boucher + Dragic separately.
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Post#229 » by Mattatron » Mon Nov 8, 2021 11:25 am

Toronto Trades: Pascal Siakam, Goran Dragic + 1st RP'23 protected

New Orleans Trades: Brandon Ingram, Jonas Valanciunas
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Post#230 » by Clutch0z24 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:22 pm

Klaw22 wrote:Toronto Trades: Pascal Siakam, Goran Dragic + 1st RP'23 protected

New Orleans Trades: Brandon Ingram, Jonas Valanciunas


The Siakam for Ingram swap really intrigues me even if Jonas wasnt included .....I think Ingram is exactly what we need on the roster...As good as Siakam is his offense isnt as polished as an Ingram....Ingram is just a better shot maker

I would do a

Siakam + Flynn + Boucher

For

Ingram + Jaxson Hayes

I think Ingram would shine under our coaching staff as well
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Post#231 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:01 pm

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Klaw22 wrote:Toronto Trades: Pascal Siakam, Goran Dragic + 1st RP'23 protected

New Orleans Trades: Brandon Ingram, Jonas Valanciunas


The Siakam for Ingram swap really intrigues me even if Jonas wasnt included .....I think Ingram is exactly what we need on the roster...As good as Siakam is his offense isnt as polished as an Ingram....Ingram is just a better shot maker

I would do a

Siakam + Flynn + Boucher

For

Ingram + Jaxson Hayes

I think Ingram would shine under our coaching staff as well


why would they make that trade though? New Orleans I mean.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#232 » by Smalltown » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:11 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:I think Minnesota would love to pair KAT and Siakam.

There’s a deal to be made around DLo.

Siakam, Malachi Flynn, 2nd + Isaac Bonga (salary filler)
for
DeAngelo, Naz Reid and Jarred Vanderbilt


Minny gets an Edwards-Siakam-KAT core.

For us, all the incoming pieces add value:

Fred / DLo / Banton
Trent / DLo / Svi
OG / Svi Watanabe
Barnes / Achiuwa / Vanderbilt
Reid / Birch / Achiuwa


Trade Boucher + Dragic separately.


That's terrible. I don't want DLo anywhere near this franchise.
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Post#233 » by Saul Goodman » Mon Nov 8, 2021 4:13 pm

If Indiana is mired in mediocrity going forward I’d love to explore the idea of swapping siakam for one of their 5 men. Who would fit better?


Siakam
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Post#234 » by skywalker33 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 4:57 pm

Boucher is looking like a 1-year wonder, he's back to scoring in the single digits again (as he's done all but ONE YEAR), but you guys still want to trade him away as a big ticket item...good luck with that !!!
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Post#235 » by Morris_Shatford » Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:44 pm

RonaldArtest wrote:What about Jarrett Culver for Boucher? Memphis is pretty loaded at the 2 spot with guys like Zaire, Bane and Melton. Adding Boucher gives them some more frontcourt depth, and complements Adams nicely.
For the Raps take a flier on a former top 10 pick.


While Boucher isn't the burn he did, Culver is barely playing for the Griz.
The issue I have with adding Culver is even if he comes here and is functional (and that is a big IF) with the Griz declining his 4th year option he a UFA this summer.

If there is an interest here in Culver I would imagine the Griz will either buy him out or use him as salary ballast to get bought out by another squad and then we can always get a look at him that way which costs us nothing.

My thought on Boucher is that his reduced minutes and awful % make him far less of a threat to command Holmes money on the market next summer and if he is available for Birch money next summer I would just be more inclined to keep as bench depth.
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Post#236 » by Morris_Shatford » Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:50 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Collin Sexton looks to be on the outs of Cleveland’s plans. Could we buy low on him as a microwave scorer and sometimes starter?


Flynn
Boucher
Top 15 protected


For

Sexton


My concern with Sexton is you trade for a guy who will end up commanding more money that GTJ to essentially come into Toronto to play a GTJ++ Role. Its very early and its only been 11 games but a lot of what made him an interesting player last season isn't quite showing this season as his percentages are way down so far.

He is also not a great defender which doesn't work well in our system;
As that "Lou Williams" bench guy he is certainly intriguing but if there is even a chance he commands more than 20m next season I am not quite so sold on him.
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Post#237 » by CANsportsguru » Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:51 pm

I think the best trading partner if we were to move Siakam would be Golden State they have a lot of young intriguing players we could pair alongside Barnes & OG. Pascal would thrive in their system alongside the splash Brothers.
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Post#238 » by Clutch0z24 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 8:56 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
Klaw22 wrote:Toronto Trades: Pascal Siakam, Goran Dragic + 1st RP'23 protected

New Orleans Trades: Brandon Ingram, Jonas Valanciunas


The Siakam for Ingram swap really intrigues me even if Jonas wasnt included .....I think Ingram is exactly what we need on the roster...As good as Siakam is his offense isnt as polished as an Ingram....Ingram is just a better shot maker

I would do a

Siakam + Flynn + Boucher

For

Ingram + Jaxson Hayes

I think Ingram would shine under our coaching staff as well


why would they make that trade though? New Orleans I mean.


To Bring in a better defender in Siakam and a backup plan for the possibility of Zion leaving them (Which could be possible) Siakam still has lots of value and is a champion....It all depends though what Pelicans are looking for Ingram is a little younger but Pelicans might want to try and start winning now which Siakam might be helpfull in that area
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Post#239 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 9:39 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
The Siakam for Ingram swap really intrigues me even if Jonas wasnt included .....I think Ingram is exactly what we need on the roster...As good as Siakam is his offense isnt as polished as an Ingram....Ingram is just a better shot maker

I would do a

Siakam + Flynn + Boucher

For

Ingram + Jaxson Hayes

I think Ingram would shine under our coaching staff as well


why would they make that trade though? New Orleans I mean.


To Bring in a better defender in Siakam and a backup plan for the possibility of Zion leaving them (Which could be possible) Siakam still has lots of value and is a champion....It all depends though what Pelicans are looking for Ingram is a little younger but Pelicans might want to try and start winning now which Siakam might be helpfull in that area


isn't Zion a RFA? there is no way Zion leaves unless he demands a trade. but what you're telling me is that NO is basically going to end up with Siakam and losing both Ingram and Zion? :lol: :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#240 » by C-R-E-A-M- » Mon Nov 8, 2021 11:46 pm

Coby White is available. Boucher is the 4 man Chicago needs

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