Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward”

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[Johnny Bball]

Have a feeling they will extend Siakam to a friendly deal and then trade him so his value is maximized. OG will be given at least half a season to see what he does without Siakam around as he might go the way of Mikal and explode in productivity, there have been some hints. I think they trade OG at the deadline at the earliest, but I think his extension is up in Oct I believe.

Gotta remove the fact that they are both rentals at the moment before they are effective trade bait.

Since Siakam won't get supermax, extend him and trade him next draft unless they make it to the ECF.

Extend OG to whatever it takes.

S&T Fred for best package and destination he's cool with.

S&T GTJr for best package and destination he's cool with.

4/125 is the max they can go.

[pingpongrac]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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Probably not for a team looking to win now with their 33-year-old superstar PG though. Siakam has already performed at a high level on the biggest stage as a #2 and has had a stretch of being an All-Star/All-NBA type player averaging 23/8/5 type numbers for years. He's a proven star while Bridges has been a 4th option for the majority of his career outside of 2 months in Brooklyn. He put up great numbers in that stretch (26/5/3 on 60 TS%), but I find it hard to believe that a team would make an all-in move based off of 2-3 months versus 4 years.

[Brinbe]

see ya, og.

[Rapsfan07]

Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10

The thing is, Indy is fine for guards and bigs, they need a wing. And the Raps are the opposite. They don't need to move Turner on a good contract for 2 bigs who are way overpaid and term, just to move up to draft a guard.

They would rather just trade #7 and add extra picks to add a wing that can play now...but still young.

I thought Wood was a UFA so how can Dallas trade him? That aside...

Would Indy be willing to part with #7 and Hield for OG? I'm not saying I'd want to do that, but if we somehow trade Siakam for #3 in some kind of deal with Portland, maybe a complete teardown would be in order.

There would need to be a few S&Ts to make this work, which is a huge reason why it's very unlikely.

But yes, I think Hield + 7 for OG should be on the table.

[WuTang_CMB]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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Probably not for a team looking to win now with their 33-year-old superstar PG though. Siakam has already performed at a high level on the biggest stage as a #2 and has had a stretch of being an All-Star/All-NBA type player averaging 23/8/5 type numbers for years. He's a proven star while Bridges has been a 4th option for the majority of his career outside of 2 months in Brooklyn. He put up great numbers in that stretch (26/5/3 on 60 TS%), but I find it hard to believe that a team would make an all-in move based off of 2-3 months versus 4 years.

Age, contract status, defense and 3's all play into Bridges favour over Siakam. I think teams like POR would value Bridges / OG over Siakam and it's reported that way from Dame/POR numourous times over the last year.

[LoveMyRaps]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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Probably not for a team looking to win now with their 33-year-old superstar PG though. Siakam has already performed at a high level on the biggest stage as a #2 and has had a stretch of being an All-Star/All-NBA type player averaging 23/8/5 type numbers for years. He's a proven star while Bridges has been a 4th option for the majority of his career outside of 2 months in Brooklyn. He put up great numbers in that stretch (26/5/3 on 60 TS%), but I find it hard to believe that a team would make an all-in move based off of 2-3 months versus 4 years.

Age, contract status, defense and 3's all play into Bridges favour over Siakam. I think teams like POR would value Bridges / OG over Siakam and it's reported that way from Dame/POR numourous times over the last year.

Exactly, not to mention durability.

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Blazers aint getting Mikal with #3 pick. He showed much more after being traded to BKN

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[WuTang_CMB]

Probably not for a team looking to win now with their 33-year-old superstar PG though. Siakam has already performed at a high level on the biggest stage as a #2 and has had a stretch of being an All-Star/All-NBA type player averaging 23/8/5 type numbers for years. He's a proven star while Bridges has been a 4th option for the majority of his career outside of 2 months in Brooklyn. He put up great numbers in that stretch (26/5/3 on 60 TS%), but I find it hard to believe that a team would make an all-in move based off of 2-3 months versus 4 years.

Age, contract status, defense and 3's all play into Bridges favour over Siakam. I think teams like POR would value Bridges / OG over Siakam and it's reported that way from Dame/POR numourous times over the last year.

Exactly, not to mention durability.

Plus I think they would rather spend less on those guys vs the asking price for a guy like Siakam which I would guess be a lot larger package.

[Zeno]

Listening to the Athletic podcast with the Blazers beat writer and he seemed pretty certain they were trading the pick and Simons for a forward. He said he thinks Dame’s first choice is Bridges but Nets are not looking to move him it appears by all reports. Pascal was a definite next target. When he was asked about Paul George, he seemed to think that was a possibility too as far as what the Blazers were looking for. Hopefully George doesn’t come on the market because that would screw with the market for our guys I think.
Interestingly the Detroit writer seemed very interested in OG for #5 later in the pod.

No offense to Paul George but I take Siakam before PG13 just because you can never rely on PG13s health. He's 33, averaged 40 games a year for 4 years, missed 2 post seasons and wasn't great the 2 he played. I wouldn't care if he had beeen slightly better in the past.

Not sure why the nets would trade for picks when they cannot tank. So this deal may actually be one rumour that is possible.

I agree but Portland is kind of in a player as part gm realm right now and most players are horrible gms. Dame doesn't care about George's age.

[LoveMyRaps]

Saw this Blazers fan comment and it sounds pretty realistic:

If you could get Orlando to trade 6, 11 and either Wagner or Carter for 3 and Ant that would be fantastic. Then flip 6 and 11 for something like OG or Siakam I think that would be a nice upgrade.

That's something I'd definitely consider.

Maybe you can get them to give up Sharpe + #6 + #11 for OG + #13

[tdotrep2]

Saw this Blazers fan comment and it sounds pretty realistic:

If you could get Orlando to trade 6, 11 and either Wagner or Carter for 3 and Ant that would be fantastic. Then flip 6 and 11 for something like OG or Siakam I think that would be a nice upgrade.

That's something I'd definitely consider.

Maybe you can get them to give up Sharpe + #6 + #11 for OG + #13

theres a debate as to whether portland would give up sharpe alone for og, now you want 6 and 11?

[ArthurVandelay]

Well that's not happening because they wouldn't be able to trade Siakam for 6 months after extending him. I mean, its been part of the CBA forever.

And it’s been changed in the new CBA effective July 1st.

The amount of the extension has to 150%. I didn't see anything on removing the trade restriction.

Extension amount is 140% and up to 4 years to be signed immediately after trade…post July 1st.

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/ep-089/

[LoveMyRaps]

Saw this Blazers fan comment and it sounds pretty realistic:

If you could get Orlando to trade 6, 11 and either Wagner or Carter for 3 and Ant that would be fantastic. Then flip 6 and 11 for something like OG or Siakam I think that would be a nice upgrade.

That's something I'd definitely consider.

Maybe you can get them to give up Sharpe + #6 + #11 for OG + #13

theres a debate as to whether portland would give up sharpe alone for og, now you want 6 and 11?

Meh fair. I'd still do #6 + #11 + Future Picks + Filler for Siakam.

[720]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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This is great news. Now we just gotta monitor the Brown situation.

[WuTang_CMB]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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This is great news. Now we just gotta monitor the Brown situation.

Agreed but I feel he will take his bag this off-season knowing that he's eligible for super max.

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I genuinely can't get over this

Even last summer when this rumor was floating around I was badly advocating for it.

Hell we need to revisit this, if we can somehow turn Siakam/OG into Sharpe+3+salary I'd do it.

We need a fresh restart with a new coach and a new direction. More emphasis on explosiveness, shooting, shot creation. Become a younger, funner team, maybe even bottom out to it keep our pick next year

[Johnny Bball]

Saw this Blazers fan comment and it sounds pretty realistic:

If you could get Orlando to trade 6, 11 and either Wagner or Carter for 3 and Ant that would be fantastic. Then flip 6 and 11 for something like OG or Siakam I think that would be a nice upgrade.

That's something I'd definitely consider.

Maybe you can get them to give up Sharpe + #6 + #11 for OG + #13

theres a debate as to whether portland would give up sharpe alone for og, now you want 6 and 11?

Toronto would not give up OG for only 6.

[720]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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This is great news. Now we just gotta monitor the Brown situation.

Agreed but I feel he will take his bag this off-season knowing that he's eligible for super max.

I’m leaning towards that too. Celtics have to offer the super max or else he’s leaving. They can’t risk that. Even if they wanna split up the core they’ll sign him and trade him later. Fingers crossed.

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I genuinely can't get over this

Even last summer when this rumor was floating around I was badly advocating for it.

Hell we need to revisit this, if we can somehow turn Siakam/OG into Sharpe+3+salary I'd do it.

We need a fresh restart with a new coach and a new direction. More emphasis on explosiveness, shooting, shot creation. Become a younger, funner team, maybe even bottom out to it keep our pick next year

There were a few of us that day on the forum just waiting all draft to hear a trade go down. I was a big Sharpe fan too. I was sad we didn’t make any moves.

Now with this Siakam stuff, Woj and Shams haven’t even put out that Toronto and Portland are talking again. We’re all just hoping Toronto sees the light. But with the trash ass Poeltl trade and overall non action with the expiring guys at the deadline (Fred and Gary), that’s not necessarily a given.