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Re: Official RJ Barrett Thread 

Post#221 » by hyper316 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 9:54 pm

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Not sure why you say that based on that clip. He made 5 of 6 corner threes.


I am looking at the form, look how low he starts his shot. Defender closing out he might not get his shot off. NBA players make over 70% easily in practice with no one defending, in game it drops to half because of game speed and defenders

He already went a whole season shooting 40%, if anything he will get better once hes a vet


The season he shot 40% was 3 years ago, Knicks fans are harping on Barrett regressing each year. At his current progression/decline, I don't think it's safe to assume he will get back to shooting 40% from 3pts from his current state. Hoping darko and Noah will fix his shot like barnes
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Post#222 » by DaGawd » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:00 pm

hyper316 wrote:
Airmiess wrote:
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I am looking at the form, look how low he starts his shot. Defender closing out he might not get his shot off. NBA players make over 70% easily in practice with no one defending, in game it drops to half because of game speed and defenders

He already went a whole season shooting 40%, if anything he will get better once hes a vet


The season he shot 40% was 3 years ago, Knicks fans are harping on Barrett regressing each year. At his current progression/decline, I don't think it's safe to assume he will get back to shooting 40% from 3pts from his current state

that was coincidentally (or not really)the covid szn without fans in the arenas…
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Post#223 » by Sandman88 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:02 pm

Steven1562 wrote:He's in that Wiggins situation where he was drafted high and is paid to be the "the guy" but he isn't that player. Hopefully the Raptors can change his role and Barrett embraces that change and becomes a useful piece on the team.

Except wiggins had a lack of drive, which RJ does not. He’s 4-5 years away from his prime. Not sure why so many are writing him off
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Post#224 » by orbesnet » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:20 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Unfortunately, I think he will be a punching bag for fans like he was for Knicks fans because he's so inconsistent, but I hope I'm wrong.

Quickley was the key piece of the deal for the Raps, but RJ as the filler contract, it could've been a lot worse than him.


Yeah how long until the Toronto media just destroys him...
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Post#225 » by tms » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:28 pm

I've seen a lot of RJ in NY over the years and I'm worried his inefficiency will drive Raptor fans up the wall . Still fun to trade for a hometown kid . Maybe he'll be a good match for Barnes too. Hope it works out
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Post#226 » by Scase » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:17 pm

Airmiess wrote:
hyper316 wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Not sure why you say that based on that clip. He made 5 of 6 corner threes.


I am looking at the form, look how low he starts his shot. Defender closing out he might not get his shot off. NBA players make over 70% easily in practice with no one defending, in game it drops to half because of game speed and defenders

He already went a whole season shooting 40%, if anything he will get better once hes a vet

Yeah he's also had 4 seasons of 32/34/31/31 percent. He's coming to a team with horrendous spacing, how exactly do you think that's gonna get better lol. Unless Jama lives in his house teaching him how to shoot, I don't see much changing.
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Re: Official RJ Barrett Thread 

Post#227 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:24 pm

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I am looking at the form, look how low he starts his shot. Defender closing out he might not get his shot off. NBA players make over 70% easily in practice with no one defending, in game it drops to half because of game speed and defenders

He already went a whole season shooting 40%, if anything he will get better once hes a vet

Yeah he's also had 4 seasons of 32/34/31/31 percent. He's coming to a team with horrendous spacing, how exactly do you think that's gonna get better lol. Unless Jama lives in his house teaching him how to shoot, I don't see much changing.

In his defence a lot of his shot inefficiency comes from taking pull-ups where he is really bad at. His catch and shoot %'s have been:

34%, 41%, 37%, 32%, and 35%.

The issue is he takes to many pull up 3's.If we can get him on an OG type shot diet though (essentially strictly catch and shoot) we could see his 3pt% rise a bit.
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Post#228 » by Scase » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:27 pm

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Airmiess wrote:He already went a whole season shooting 40%, if anything he will get better once hes a vet

Yeah he's also had 4 seasons of 32/34/31/31 percent. He's coming to a team with horrendous spacing, how exactly do you think that's gonna get better lol. Unless Jama lives in his house teaching him how to shoot, I don't see much changing.

In his defence a lot of his shot inefficiency comes from taking pull-ups where he is really bad at. His catch and shoot %'s have been:

34%, 41%, 37%, 32%, and 35%.

The issue is he takes to many pull up 3's.If we can get him on an OG type shot diet though (essentially strictly catch and shoot) we could see his 3pt% rise a bit.

I'd rather him learn how to finish in the paint, he gets to the FT line at a solid rate, but he sucks at finishing. I don't see him as a long term solution, unless we can spin him into a 6moty type player. Unless Jama can pull that Scottie magic again, but I think that was more to do with Scotties commitment than anything.

I'd love for RJ to thrive here, I just don't see it being realistic.
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Post#229 » by nivisi9 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:46 pm

in his second season when he shot 40% 3pt on high attempts and 44% FG that only came out to a 53% TS...

Why's that?

why does that seem surprising or not to add up?
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Post#230 » by And1Skip » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:52 pm

Already in his first shoot around you see Jama beside RJ talking to him. Looks like Jama is going take it upon himself to help him develop for the good of the team and also for Canada national team too.
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Post#231 » by nivisi9 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:55 pm

in his second season when he shot 40% 3pt on high attempts and 44% FG that only came out to a 53% TS...

Why's that?

why does that seem surprising or not to add up?
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Post#232 » by TheRaptor! » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:20 am

Its simple

Play hard D with the starters, first to get subbed out.

Get rewarded with all the shot attempts when you're with the bench line up along side Dennis and GTJ

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Post#233 » by RoyceDa59 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:52 am

His court vision seems lacking, missed a few easy passes today and has 5 TO’s so far.
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Post#234 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:55 am

Sandman88 wrote:
Steven1562 wrote:He's in that Wiggins situation where he was drafted high and is paid to be the "the guy" but he isn't that player. Hopefully the Raptors can change his role and Barrett embraces that change and becomes a useful piece on the team.

Except wiggins had a lack of drive, which RJ does not. He’s 4-5 years away from his prime. Not sure why so many are writing him off


He's 2 years away from his prime.
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Post#235 » by Got Nuffin » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:19 am

Scase wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Scase wrote:Yeah he's also had 4 seasons of 32/34/31/31 percent. He's coming to a team with horrendous spacing, how exactly do you think that's gonna get better lol. Unless Jama lives in his house teaching him how to shoot, I don't see much changing.

In his defence a lot of his shot inefficiency comes from taking pull-ups where he is really bad at. His catch and shoot %'s have been:

34%, 41%, 37%, 32%, and 35%.

The issue is he takes to many pull up 3's.If we can get him on an OG type shot diet though (essentially strictly catch and shoot) we could see his 3pt% rise a bit.

I'd rather him learn how to finish in the paint, he gets to the FT line at a solid rate, but he sucks at finishing. I don't see him as a long term solution, unless we can spin him into a 6moty type player. Unless Jama can pull that Scottie magic again, but I think that was more to do with Scotties commitment than anything.

I'd love for RJ to thrive here, I just don't see it being realistic.


He honestly seems like a 6th man to me. A scoring, tunnel-vision, free throw making feaster of second units is a perfect role for him and he would be in the running for 6moty every year.

He had a great game today, but his tunnel vision is scary. Once he starts his move he is not passing unless it's a really obvious one, he's going to the rim whether he makes the shot, turns it over, charges etc. That's not really conducive to any kind of chemistry or Barnes-centric game plan.

Let he and Schroeder carve up opposing benches and he's a great addition. Problem is whether he is getting paid too much to be placed in such a role?

Whether Siakam is traded or not, we still need a long-term starting shooting guard not named Barrett or Trent.
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Post#236 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:31 am

Damn, everyone real quiet.
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Post#237 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:36 am

Got Nuffin wrote:
Scase wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:In his defence a lot of his shot inefficiency comes from taking pull-ups where he is really bad at. His catch and shoot %'s have been:

34%, 41%, 37%, 32%, and 35%.

The issue is he takes to many pull up 3's.If we can get him on an OG type shot diet though (essentially strictly catch and shoot) we could see his 3pt% rise a bit.

I'd rather him learn how to finish in the paint, he gets to the FT line at a solid rate, but he sucks at finishing. I don't see him as a long term solution, unless we can spin him into a 6moty type player. Unless Jama can pull that Scottie magic again, but I think that was more to do with Scotties commitment than anything.

I'd love for RJ to thrive here, I just don't see it being realistic.


He honestly seems like a 6th man to me. A scoring, tunnel-vision, free throw making feaster of second units is a perfect role for him and he would be in the running for 6moty every year.

He had a great game today, but his tunnel vision is scary. Once he starts his move he is not passing unless it's a really obvious one, he's going to the rim whether he makes the shot, turns it over, charges etc. That's not really conducive to any kind of chemistry or Barnes-centric game plan.

Let he and Schroeder carve up opposing benches and he's a great addition. Problem is whether he is getting paid too much to be placed in such a role?

Whether Siakam is traded or not, we still need a long-term starting shooting guard not named Barrett or Trent.

6 man seems perfect for him to me. Start GTJ simply cause he can hit 3's (and in the SL, should not be expected to do more than shoot and defend). Let RJ come off the bench so we absolutely reduce/limit the Siakam/Barnes/RJ combo (outside of small lineups)
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Post#238 » by HKBOY » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:38 am

I like what I saw from RJ tonight to be honest. I still believe with the right role and development, he can at least be a high end role player/above average starter. Norm used to have tunnel vision and wasn't a good shooter but this team turned him into a decent player, I believe the same can happen to RJ. It's also good to have a strong 2 guard who can force his way to the basket and draw fouls.
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Post#239 » by mihaic » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:41 am

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Steven1562 wrote:He's in that Wiggins situation where he was drafted high and is paid to be the "the guy" but he isn't that player. Hopefully the Raptors can change his role and Barrett embraces that change and becomes a useful piece on the team.

Except wiggins had a lack of drive, which RJ does not. He’s 4-5 years away from his prime. Not sure why so many are writing him off


He's 2 years away from his prime.


Really? He is only 23
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Post#240 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:44 am

HKBOY wrote:I like what I saw from RJ tonight to be honest. I still believe with the right role and development, he can at least be a high end role player/above average starter. Norm used to have tunnel vision and wasn't a good shooter but this team turned him into a decent player, I believe the same can happen to RJ. It's also good to have a strong 2 guard who can force his way to the basket and draw fouls.


I like the Norm comparison; a bigger Norm would be pretty nice to have on the roster.

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