Raptors should announce retiring Vince Carter's jersey soon

[Mikistan]

nah, it's more like that hot girl back in high school during summer camp, who decided to make a man out of you scrawny nerdy boy. Then she went back to dating jocks and you never saw her again.

It's a memory you will carry to your death bed.

I don’t know, man.

Raps fans sitting here with the Chip still on our lips and VC never lead any team to the conference finals.

So your analogy is sh*t. I see what you’re trying to say, you just chose the wrong guy. Vince was a beautiful pure athlete, but not a winner. And he left in a huff like a little b*tch. Granted, raps management have blame in that. I’m a fan of his. He seems like a good human, he could really play. But there are lots of great guys who’ve worn raps jerseys.

I’m not for retiring his #.
I certainly not alone…

I hope you'll be punching the air wildly between your tears if his jersey ends up being retired here.

Retiring his jersey will be a business decision from the franchise, I won't blame them for that, but he didn't accomplish enough and left in an unforgivable way so for raptors legacy and pure competition reasons, he shouldn't be honoured

[xAIRNESSx]

I guess if we retire Vince, let's do Damon Stoudamire, Camby, Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, Kawhi, Kyle and Demar.

Anyone who made people come out and cheer for the team.

I think most fans use criteria revolving around some combination of personal success, team success, longevity and entrenchment within the team.

The short list is Vince, DeMar, Lowry and Kawhi.

Bosh didn’t even mention the Raptors in his HoF speech. Who knows if he would even show up if we retired his number.

[ATLTimekeeper]

nah, it's more like that hot girl back in high school during summer camp, who decided to make a man out of you scrawny nerdy boy. Then she went back to dating jocks and you never saw her again.

It's a memory you will carry to your death bed.

I don’t know, man.

Raps fans sitting here with the Chip still on our lips and VC never lead any team to the conference finals.

So your analogy is sh*t. I see what you’re trying to say, you just chose the wrong guy. Vince was a beautiful pure athlete, but not a winner. And he left in a huff like a little b*tch. Granted, raps management have blame in that. I’m a fan of his. He seems like a good human, he could really play. But there are lots of great guys who’ve worn raps jerseys.

I’m not for retiring his #.
I certainly not alone…

The championship might be a climax but Vince's highlights were the foreplay - and you don't forget those for that real hot one that got away

If you're happy, you forget. The only reason to remember this one is if you're sad or they gave you and STD. Vince gets a pity jersey retirement from me.

[raptor jesus]

I'm a Raptors fan primarily because of Vince, but I don't think they should retire his jersey. His impact is undeniable, but he only played about 400 games with the team w/o a ton of success - Amir played more games wearing 15, and did so with much more grace imo. Also, while the Raptors front office deserves a big share of the blame pie, Vince did essentially quit on the team. He was tipping end of game plays to opposing teams, claimed he didn't want to dunk anymore. So I think retiring his number would come off as somewhat desperate on the Raptors part, like they're doing it just to do generate some buzz - like the Magic just did with Shaq.

[DelAbbot]

I don’t know, man.

Raps fans sitting here with the Chip still on our lips and VC never lead any team to the conference finals.

So your analogy is sh*t. I see what you’re trying to say, you just chose the wrong guy. Vince was a beautiful pure athlete, but not a winner. And he left in a huff like a little b*tch. Granted, raps management have blame in that. I’m a fan of his. He seems like a good human, he could really play. But there are lots of great guys who’ve worn raps jerseys.

I’m not for retiring his #.
I certainly not alone…

The championship might be a climax but Vince's highlights were the foreplay - and you don't forget those for that real hot one that got away

If you're happy, you forget. The only reason to remember this one is if you're sad or they gave you and STD. Vince gets a pity jersey retirement from me.

in seriousness, this is a terrible way to live one's life. I remember all the happy memories, and that's how I choose to remember Vince

[canada_dry]

Man they killed vince. Rich is even a former teammate lol



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[Scase]

I don’t know, man.

Raps fans sitting here with the Chip still on our lips and VC never lead any team to the conference finals.

So your analogy is sh*t. I see what you’re trying to say, you just chose the wrong guy. Vince was a beautiful pure athlete, but not a winner. And he left in a huff like a little b*tch. Granted, raps management have blame in that. I’m a fan of his. He seems like a good human, he could really play. But there are lots of great guys who’ve worn raps jerseys.

I’m not for retiring his #.
I certainly not alone…

The championship might be a climax but Vince's highlights were the foreplay - and you don't forget those for that real hot one that got away

If you're happy, you forget. The only reason to remember this one is if you're sad or they gave you and STD. Vince gets a pity jersey retirement from me.

Vince gave me the clap, took some antibiotics and it's gone. Nothing about his tenure is permanently damaging.

[DelAbbot]

The championship might be a climax but Vince's highlights were the foreplay - and you don't forget those for that real hot one that got away

If you're happy, you forget. The only reason to remember this one is if you're sad or they gave you and STD. Vince gets a pity jersey retirement from me.

Vince gave me the clap, took some antibiotics and it's gone. Nothing about his tenure is permanently damaging.

and Vince still is an ambassador for Canada and Raptors

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/vince-carter-toronto-raptors

"Vince Carter defends Toronto"

Watch on YouTube

[Scase]

If you're happy, you forget. The only reason to remember this one is if you're sad or they gave you and STD. Vince gets a pity jersey retirement from me.

Vince gave me the clap, took some antibiotics and it's gone. Nothing about his tenure is permanently damaging.

and Vince still is an ambassador for Canada and Raptors

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/vince-carter-toronto-raptors

"Vince Carter defends Toronto"

Watch on YouTube

Meanwhile the people who still haven't got over it keep saying how he trashed toronto to everyone etc. The one constant, he has always loved the city. All this is just propaganda though, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

[CazOnReal]

I guess if we retire Vince, let's do Damon Stoudamire, Camby, Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, Kawhi, Kyle and Demar.

Anyone who made people come out and cheer for the team.

I think most fans use criteria revolving around some combination of personal success, team success, longevity and entrenchment within the team.

The short list is Vince, DeMar, Lowry and Kawhi.

Bosh didn’t even mention the Raptors in his HoF speech. Who knows if he would even show up if we retired his number.

I don't know how one manages to list Kawhi over Siakam when Pascal was:

-Important to that first championship
-Remains arguably the team's greatest development success story relative to expectations, which includes winning MIP
-Stuck around way longer and nearly has the same amount of seasons to his name as Kyle or DeMar
-Ties for most All-NBA accolades earned as a Raptor

[TheGeneral99]

Vince gave me the clap, took some antibiotics and it's gone. Nothing about his tenure is permanently damaging.

and Vince still is an ambassador for Canada and Raptors

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/vince-carter-toronto-raptors

"Vince Carter defends Toronto"

Watch on YouTube

Meanwhile the people who still haven't got over it keep saying how he trashed toronto to everyone etc. The one constant, he has always loved the city. All this is just propaganda though, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

Lol?

If you've been following VC's career you would know that he massively regretted leaving Toronto. His stint in New Jersey was a disappointment, he was a massive failure in Orlando and his Suns stint was just...forgettable. In the early 2010s I recall Vince trying to make amends and admitting he should have stayed here. Once our team started becoming good again in 2014/2015 our fanbase decided enough time had passed to keep booing him.

VC really wants to be valued here because he knows what he did was wrong...it's **** obvious. Toronto is the only City where he actually left a mark and he desperately wants that validation...but the issue is that Vince, while hugely popular at his peak here, didn't really achieve all that much in terms of winning and his exit from the City was as disgustingly unprofessional as it gets.

I don't hate Vince and I wouldn't boo him when he's here, but I wouldn't want his jersey retired.

It's Lowry, Demar and maybe Kawhi for me.

[CazOnReal]

While we're reminiscing, I really do hate how good of a young core we were denied seeing flourish due to, among other things, that botched Stoudamire Rockets trade that poisoned the well for franchise players staying in Toronto.

Damon Stoudamire - PG
Vince Carter - SG
Tracy McGrady - SF
Marcus Camby - C

That could have been 4 of our 5 starting 5, and all home grown at that! Notably, Stoudamire sticking around might have resolved one of the most prominent issues with the Vince era Raptors i.e. a weak guard rotation at the 1.

[TheGeneral99]

While we're reminiscing, I really do hate how good of a young core we were denied seeing flourish due to, among other things, that botched Stoudamire Rockets trade that poisoned the well for franchise players staying in Toronto.

Damon Stoudamire - PG
Vince Carter - SG
Tracy McGrady - SF
Marcus Camby - C

That could have been 4 of our 5 starting 5, and all home grown at that! Notably, Stoudamire sticking around might have resolved one of the most prominent issues with the Vince era Raptors i.e. a weak guard rotation at the 1.

I mean if McGrady chose to stay in Toronto that team is a powerhouse from 2000-2007 most likely.

But yeah it's too bad the FO didn't have much patience.

Anyways you can play this revisionist history with any team.

Imagine if in 2014 we chose Jokic at 20 instead of Caboclo at 20...I mean that changes your franchise forever.

[CazOnReal]

While we're reminiscing, I really do hate how good of a young core we were denied seeing flourish due to, among other things, that botched Stoudamire Rockets trade that poisoned the well for franchise players staying in Toronto.

Damon Stoudamire - PG
Vince Carter - SG
Tracy McGrady - SF
Marcus Camby - C

That could have been 4 of our 5 starting 5, and all home grown at that! Notably, Stoudamire sticking around might have resolved one of the most prominent issues with the Vince era Raptors i.e. a weak guard rotation at the 1.

I mean if McGrady chose to stay in Toronto that team is a powerhouse from 2000-2007 most likely.

But yeah it's too bad the FO didn't have much patience.

Anyways you can play this revisionist history with any team.

Imagine if in 2014 we chose Jokic at 20 instead of Caboclo at 20...I mean that changes your franchise forever.

I think there's a big difference in the two since no one could have predicted that some 40-ish pick would be a 2 (soon to be 3) times MVP and NBA champion at the time. Stoudamire, McGrady, Camby and Carter were very much known NBA talents and while there are definitely questions about this what if i.e. whether the Raptors would have squandered the chances to build a contender with those 4, whether the Raptors would even be in a position to draft all of those guys if they maintained a consistent roster, whether they reach their peaks with them all likely playing behind Carter and whether that pecking order fuels resentment in the locker room, there's a lot more substance to considering how good this Raptors core could have been since we saw the flashes those guys showed; Camby led the league in blocks in his sophomore season.

[xAIRNESSx]

I guess if we retire Vince, let's do Damon Stoudamire, Camby, Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, Kawhi, Kyle and Demar.

Anyone who made people come out and cheer for the team.

I think most fans use criteria revolving around some combination of personal success, team success, longevity and entrenchment within the team.

The short list is Vince, DeMar, Lowry and Kawhi.

Bosh didn’t even mention the Raptors in his HoF speech. Who knows if he would even show up if we retired his number.

I don't know how one manages to list Kawhi over Siakam when Pascal was:

-Important to that first championship
-Remains arguably the team's greatest development success story relative to expectations, which includes winning MIP
-Stuck around way longer and nearly has the same amount of seasons to his name as Kyle or DeMar
-Ties for most All-NBA accolades earned as a Raptor

Sure I think Pascal makes sense as a candidate too.

[discconnected]

While we're reminiscing, I really do hate how good of a young core we were denied seeing flourish due to, among other things, that botched Stoudamire Rockets trade that poisoned the well for franchise players staying in Toronto.

Damon Stoudamire - PG
Vince Carter - SG
Tracy McGrady - SF
Marcus Camby - C

That could have been 4 of our 5 starting 5, and all home grown at that! Notably, Stoudamire sticking around might have resolved one of the most prominent issues with the Vince era Raptors i.e. a weak guard rotation at the 1.

And Doug Christie...

[DelAbbot]

While we're reminiscing, I really do hate how good of a young core we were denied seeing flourish due to, among other things, that botched Stoudamire Rockets trade that poisoned the well for franchise players staying in Toronto.

Damon Stoudamire - PG
Vince Carter - SG
Tracy McGrady - SF
Marcus Camby - C

That could have been 4 of our 5 starting 5, and all home grown at that! Notably, Stoudamire sticking around might have resolved one of the most prominent issues with the Vince era Raptors i.e. a weak guard rotation at the 1.

That doesn't fit. Mighty Mouse needs the ball in his hands too much to let Vince and TMac flourish. Alvin as a big defensive PG works next to Vince and TMac, like Ron Harper next to MJ and Pippen

[Kingsway_fan]

While we're reminiscing, I really do hate how good of a young core we were denied seeing flourish due to, among other things, that botched Stoudamire Rockets trade that poisoned the well for franchise players staying in Toronto.

Damon Stoudamire - PG
Vince Carter - SG
Tracy McGrady - SF
Marcus Camby - C

That could have been 4 of our 5 starting 5, and all home grown at that! Notably, Stoudamire sticking around might have resolved one of the most prominent issues with the Vince era Raptors i.e. a weak guard rotation at the 1.

Two future HOFers on the list. All you need to know.

VC GROAT...

[Johnny Bball]

Lol at Vince Carter making Canadian basketball. There are a slew of Canadians players in the NBA and NCAA now that weren't old enough to even remember Vince Carter playing for the Raptors. There a a small handful that watched VC. The Raptors as a franchise themslves made Canadian basketball.

As for saving the Raptors, nah. The Candian dollar going over par to the US dollar for years in the early 2000's had a bigger impact, and the NBA equalized the currency for the Raptors after the Grizzlies folded, and the Raptors were never going anywhere.

Retiring his Jersey is rather pathetic. The guy quit. Lol at putting more stock into what he said about Toronto decades later.

[Bank Shot]

It's also worth noting that Vince had a million chances to sign with us towards the end of his career and chose not to. Instead, he decided to waste away on lottery teams. He's hyping us up now because no one else gives a **** about him and he's worried about being forgotten, but for most of his post-Raps career, he ignored us.