kalel123 wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:kalel123 wrote:
Correct, you are. And those picks ended up being 19th pick in 2024, projected to be one of the worst draft in years! Late pick in 2024 that ended up being Isiah Collier, projected #1 pick at one point, for UTAH f'ing JAZZ! And we got Agbaji AND re-signed Olynyk both of whom bombed like none other during summer plays. And last-but-certain-to-be-the-least... A mystery mid-to-low pick in 2026!
Did I mention Ja'Kobe Walter is now injured alongside Bruce Brown? Both of them come from the great Siakam tree, the garbage that keeps on giving~!
What great returns they are. So worthless.
Uh I was just correcting the other poster who stated we only got Brown for Siakam... Secondly, we don't know what Walter will turn out to be in the future, too early, and who cares if he's injured now, that has zero impact on whatever future value a rookie has. Also, there's no idea to know what we'll get with the Pacers '26 pick. I'm not saying the immediate value was great, but based on the rumors nobody was offering anything better, would you have preferred the hawks offer of Hunter, Griffin & a 1st, or how about Sac's offer of Barnes, Huerter & a 1st?
And I'm merely correcting you that adding the POS worthless picks, don't matter how many, doesn't make the return any better when chances are, Bruce Brown could very well be the best player when all's said and done. You can throw "oh you never know" BS as many times as you want, doesn't change the fact Ja'Kobe Walter's most likely projected path is as a middling role player. That's how things normally go for most 19th picks in any draft (i.e. if they stick at all) let alone one of the worse drafts that he's a part of. And that '26 Indiana pick? Would need some type of special dumb **** to not realize that's most likely going to be another 19th-ish pick waiting to happen barring disastrous injuries to some of Indiana's players seeing as how they retained Siakam and didn't lose any of their young prospects in the process of acquiring him. We really need to stop insulting each other's intelligence and get real about that pick. There's a very good reason Indiana was willing to give that up over any of their young propsects worth a damn.
I don't know if anybody was offering anything better and neither do you (last I checked, Randle/KAT trade never showed up on any rumor mill so don't need to be genius to figure the rumors aren't necessarily all it's cracked up to be). But even if that were true, that's because they decided to wait to the last minute to deal Siakam when his value was at its lowest. Should've dealt him a year earlier when it was crystal clear that flawed core was going nowhere fast instead of doubling down on it with Poeltl by mortgaging the future. Or even during the offseason. Logic and past/present examples (RANDLE) dictate: at that point, they would've gotten more value back and doesn't take much to be better than the garbage we got. But alas, they are delusional and slow to act until reality hits them right in the face and then some, which explains why Bruce Brown is still here deciding to heal on company time.
I've read enough of your posts on here to know your whole shtick is to bitch and complain about the players, the front office, talk sh*t and troll posters... So I'm not gonna get roped into a lengthy back and forth with you over your baseless, speculative and incoherent arguments.
What I will say is that we can't debate your hopes and dreams of what we should've gotten, and that the front office must have passed on a better deal (according to you), we can only debate what has been reported and those 2 trades I stated we're the only ones widely reported in the media.
