2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Trade this year's first round pick to the Nets for Cam Johnson. Can't miss opportunities like this. Getting a top young C big is getting in front of many years of development.

Hilarious

[ArthurVandelay]

On the Kevin O’Conner show, Tom Haberstroh suggested Minny should dump Randle to the Raptors with the Detroit 2025 1st for Brown and Boucher. Now I know that with our pick would put us like 10 million into the tax if Randle opts in, but would you do it assuming you could dump Kelly for expirings contracts?

Get Minott or Miller included and I’m all in on that

[Ell Curry]

Neither team would do this.

Trey is allegedly untouchable and even if he wasn't, RJ's fit with Zion is very funky.

Again: The possibility of trading that 2026 Indy pick at the deadline isn't out of the realm of possibility...and it would be very funny to go 4/4 on trading a first the past deadlines. But I don't think it moves the needle for New Orleans.

Absolutely we'd do this. No way New Orleans does. Murphy is really good, he'd be at worst our 2nd best 2-way player.

I'd do Barrett + Walter + 2026 IND First Round Pick + 2025 POR Second Round Pick

For sure.

I think Murphy's value is really high. I'd rather have him than say De'Aaron Fox on more money (and 3 years older). Just one of those guys who fits well everywhere, like a Mikal Bridges, and we saw what he went for. 5 1sts and a swap was excessive for him, but 4 seems about right so I think Murphy is fetching 4. I think we'd have to add another unprotected first to your offer to get New Orleans to consider it.

[Rapsfan07]

Don't think we should be moving out any first round picks at this stage of the game.

We're in the early stages of a rebuild, still missing some key pieces and not sure of how well the pieces we do have fit together.

I would just keep all the picks unless we're getting a surefire star on a cheap or rookie contract, which obviously isn't going to happen.

[ash_k]

To Wolves
Bruce Brown
Don Mitchell (most likely becomes their starting PG actually with his defense)

To Bulls (I cant see any team taking Lavine thus you might as well try to win some games and play-in/playoff by increasing the talent level )
Randle

To Raps (couple of young players on good contracts with Potential)
P.Williams
J.Smith

[Ell Curry]

Don't think we should be moving out any first round picks at this stage of the game.

We're in the early stages of a rebuild, still missing some key pieces and not sure of how well the pieces we do have fit together.

I would just keep all the picks unless we're getting a surefire star on a cheap or rookie contract, which obviously isn't going to happen.

Yeah, I don't disagree with this, but Murphy is 24 and I think he's genuinely good and we still have our first this year and next.

More realistically, if Barnes is worth building around and not a guy we should move for like the equivalent of 6 or 7 firsts (say 4 firsts, a promising rookie contract player and a veteran going to another team in a 3 way for a first or 2) then I think Murphy is on the list of plausible names we might target for an expiring RJ in the summer of 2026, after keeping a tank pivot open as a serious option, or at least picking like 10th instead of 14th if things go about as expected, next year.

This is a conversation not worth having for 1.5 more years at the earliest.

[PushDaRock]

Would Pels accept RJ Barrett + 2026 IND 1st for Trey Murphy?

I would do this if I was the Raptors but don't see why the Pelicans would. Trey is signed to a bargain extension which I was shocked that he agreed to. He's actually one of the more perfect players to pair with Scottie.

[PushDaRock]

Don't think we should be moving out any first round picks at this stage of the game.

We're in the early stages of a rebuild, still missing some key pieces and not sure of how well the pieces we do have fit together.

I would just keep all the picks unless we're getting a surefire star on a cheap or rookie contract, which obviously isn't going to happen.

Murphy is pretty close to that criteria. He's got 4 years after this one at 28m AAV, that's an absolute steal. 24 years old, 2 way player with excellent positional size that's averaging 21.5 ppg on 60 TS% and over 3 threes a game. The fit next to Scottie doesn't get any better than that.

[LoveMyRaps]

[CazOnReal]

To Wolves
Bruce Brown
Don Mitchell (most likely becomes their starting PG actually with his defense)

To Bulls (I cant see any team taking Lavine thus you might as well try to win some games and play-in/playoff by increasing the talent level )
Randle

To Raps (couple of young players on good contracts with Potential)
P.Williams
J.Smith

Raptors are not doing this move without a pick, that P-Will contract is long and not particularly cheap.

[CazOnReal]

Don't think we should be moving out any first round picks at this stage of the game.

We're in the early stages of a rebuild, still missing some key pieces and not sure of how well the pieces we do have fit together.

I would just keep all the picks unless we're getting a surefire star on a cheap or rookie contract, which obviously isn't going to happen.

Disagree.

Part of the savviness of that "We the North" DeMar/Lowry era of the Raptors was that they were willing to give up draft capital to get the necessary pieces to build that championship roster. Most specifically, they traded their 2013 pick to acquire Kyle Lowry while the team as a whole was still figuring out its identity.

Obviously you shouldn't just throw picks out for the sake of it - and you could argue this move cost them to chance to draft Giannis which Masai famously failed to trade back into the draft to acquire - but if the right player is on the table for that Pacers 1st? Sure, go for it. They more or less did just that with the Ochai/Olynyk trade where they gave up a mediocre pick, and that Pacers 2026 pick is looking more and more like a middle of the road first barring another setback.

When known talent is on the table vs the mystery box that is the draft? 9/10, i'm taking the known talent.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Raptors are not taking on $12 million next year of garbage Gabe Vincent just to get Max Christie and JHS who is a UFA

[LoveMyRaps]

Raptors are not taking on $12 million next year of garbage Gabe Vincent just to get Max Christie and JHS who is a UFA

Max Christie is a very underrated piece. Great young player to add to this core.

I've been very vocal about his upside for a couple years now. Kid is gonna be good.

[ash_k]

To Wolves
Bruce Brown
Don Mitchell (most likely becomes their starting PG actually with his defense)

To Bulls (I cant see any team taking Lavine thus you might as well try to win some games and play-in/playoff by increasing the talent level )
Randle

To Raps (couple of young players on good contracts with Potential)
P.Williams
J.Smith

Raptors are not doing this move without a pick, that P-Will contract is long and not particularly cheap.

A pick(?!) for a player coming off a knee surgery that has only played 9 games, playing less than 20 minutes and on an expiring contract, we would be lucky to get a 2nd round pick..plus we will have to take salary back, P-Will's contract is 18M per for the next 5 years, supercheap at that age with the potential (worst case a big 3+D SF and we badly need it)

[Zeno]

Purely hypothetical and not sure I’d even go for it but I have a feeling the Celtics could look to move off Porzingas, Horford and Jrue are aging out quickly and Porzingas looks slow and is as unreliable as ever. They also face a huge tax bill for next year especially. In addition, they have shown a lot of previous interest in Yak. So if the Celtics offered us Porzingas, their 2025 1st for Yak, Davion, would you do it? Porzingas becomes an expiring next year but makes 11 million more than Yak will.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Purely hypothetical and not sure I’d even go for it but I have a feeling the Celtics could look to move off Porzingas, Horford and Jrue are aging out quickly and Porzingas looks slow and is as unreliable as ever. They also face a huge tax bill for next year especially. In addition, they have shown a lot of previous interest in Yak. So if the Celtics offered us Porzingas, their 2025 1st for Yak, Davion, would you do it? Porzingas becomes an expiring next year but makes 11 million more than Yak will.

They won't move Porzingis in division, I think they will be fine they don't need Porzingis to be anything more than he is. Horford is probably done in a year max two. Mitchell I definitely see as they are lacking guard depth. IMHO this is more slated towards Toronto's end as Porzingis is a better fit here with Barnes. Plus getting another pick to use or trace is also a win

[MessiahUjiri]

Detroit has signaled that they want to make minor improvements. Jaden Ivey is gone for the season, and they need a boost in the backcourt with some veteran toughness.


Bruce Brown played previously for Detroit, and they can absorb his salary. In this case, Toronto will need to settle for a couple of bench prospects.


Bruce Brown
for
Simon Fontechio & Bobi Klintman (recent 2nd rounder)



Raptors can use some forwards. They get a couple of them here. Detroit gets the help they want to win a playoff round, and maybe they will sign Brown back

[Mr Swagtastic]

To Wolves
Bruce Brown
Don Mitchell (most likely becomes their starting PG actually with his defense)

To Bulls (I cant see any team taking Lavine thus you might as well try to win some games and play-in/playoff by increasing the talent level )
Randle

To Raps (couple of young players on good contracts with Potential)
P.Williams
J.Smith

Makes no sense for Minnesota. They are 2-3 games out from 4th in the West. Randle is their only real second scoring option. If anything they are looking for SF potentially.

Bulls IMHO are stuck paying Randle and Vooch to be a turnstile defense I can't see them being thrilled.

If it took Mitchell plus Brown to get Pat Williams I am sure Toronto would do that. The fit with RJ and Barnes is there and Williams isn't that overpaid plus he fits the timeline

[Ell Curry]

Raptors are not taking on $12 million next year of garbage Gabe Vincent just to get Max Christie and JHS who is a UFA

If you look at it as signing Max Christie to a 2+1 deal at like 8M a year, that's probably just about worth giving up the MLE, which is the price of eating the garbage Gabe Vincent year. I do think we'd rather do something like eat Cole Anthony's deal to move up from 35 to 25 in the draft because we have 3 okay backup wing types in Dick, Walter and Agbaji.

[ash_k]

To Wolves
Bruce Brown
Don Mitchell (most likely becomes their starting PG actually with his defense)

To Bulls (I cant see any team taking Lavine thus you might as well try to win some games and play-in/playoff by increasing the talent level )
Randle

To Raps (couple of young players on good contracts with Potential)
P.Williams
J.Smith

Makes no sense for Minnesota. They are 2-3 games out from 4th in the West. Randle is their only real second scoring option. If anything they are looking for SF potentially.

Bulls IMHO are stuck paying Randle and Vooch to be a turnstile defense I can't see them being thrilled.

If it took Mitchell plus Brown to get Pat Williams I am sure Toronto would do that. The fit with RJ and Barnes is there and Williams isn't that overpaid plus he fits the timeline

What do you mean they are looking for a SF? they have Jaden for the next 10 years. The trade would be about inserting Naz Reid into the starting 5 and potentially Davion to take over for Conley as one of the best POA defender with now Gobert behind him. Acquiring Bruce Brown would be a 'win-now' move adding that versatility and experience as a proven key contributor to a championship team off the bench.

For the Bulls, unless they can find someone to get Zach, you might as well win some more games with Zach, Randle and Vuc (would keep Lonzo to PG all this though)