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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#221 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:35 am

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arbsn wrote:This draft gets me so excited. Reminds me a lot of the 21/Scottie Barnes draft. Maybe even better at the top. 10+ all-star potential players and a bunch of great role players
That draft had Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, Suggs, Kuminga, Franz, Sengun, Trey Murphy, Jalen Johnson, Giddey, Grimes, Aldama, Herb Jones, Ayo, Aaron Wiggins, etc..

I feel like this draft has the same vibe. I hope we acquire another late 1st pick. There will almost certainly be at least one, maybe multiple all-stars out of the foreigners Essengue, Traore, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Beringer, Hansen Yang, Markovic, etc


I feel the opposite.

This draft is becoming worse for me by the week.

2021 draft is so much stronger that I don’t think it’s even close.

It’s a very wide open draft after Harper and Cooper. It would not surprise me to see alot of teams after the 7th pick to consider trading down.


Many ppl thought the draft was flat and uninteresting after Cade/Green/Mobley/Suggs
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#222 » by DG88 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:20 am

Take with a grain of salt but looks like Spurs won't trade the pick and draft Harper.

The San Antonio Spurs remain active in offseason discussions, but league sources tell RG there is increasing doubt the team will ultimately land Kevin Durant via trade — and the present expectation is that the Spurs will use the No. 2 overall pick in the NBA Draft to select Dylan Harper, barring a surprise development.

Sources stress that the situation remains fluid less than two weeks before the NBA Draft, but as of June 12, doubt is increasing that Durant will land in San Antonio and there appears to be no clear traction.

While the Spurs have continued to be one of the teams linked to Durant, league observers question whether there is enough potential alignment between the Spurs and Suns on a possible trade.

Many around the league also believe the Spurs have valued Giannis Antetokounmpo higher than Durant on their trade board, but there has been a lack of momentum surrounding Antetokounmpo’s potential availability. Given Durant’s age not aligning with Wembanyama’s timeline, league observers expect the Spurs to remain cautious about potential trade compensation.

Focus on Dylan Harper
With the No. 2 pick, the Spurs are expected to select Harper, widely viewed as the top guard prospect in the 2025 NBA Draft class behind projected No. 1 pick Cooper Flagg.

Early in the draft process, some rival teams wondered whether San Antonio might consider trading back, given the presence of De’Aaron Fox, Devin Vassell, and Stephon Castle in its backcourt. However, sources tell RG that the Spurs are comfortable staying at No. 2 and selecting Harper as the best player available.

“The current read right now is that they’re just going to take the best player available and deal with any positional questions after that,” one source said.

Trade Discussions With the Philadelphia 76ers
While reports have emerged that the Philadelphia 76ers have had exploratory talks regarding a possible swap of the No. 2 and No. 3 picks, sources who have spoken with RG believe those discussions are more about intel gathering than serious momentum.

“For now, it’s more due diligence than anything,” one source told RG.

The Spurs’ approach could still shift depending on how the trade market evolves ahead of the draft and into July. But for now, the expectation remains that the franchise will continue building around Wembanyama through a mix of young talent and future flexibility — with Harper currently viewed as the likely addition at No. 2.

“It’s early. Things change fast this time of year,” one source said. “But right now, the expectation is Harper is going to San Antonio.”
Source: https://rg.org/news/basketball/sources-spurs-unlikely-to-land-kevin-durant-pick-harper-no-2
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#223 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:25 am

DG88 wrote:Take with a grain of salt but looks like Spurs won't trade the pick and draft Harper.

The San Antonio Spurs remain active in offseason discussions, but league sources tell RG there is increasing doubt the team will ultimately land Kevin Durant via trade — and the present expectation is that the Spurs will use the No. 2 overall pick in the NBA Draft to select Dylan Harper, barring a surprise development.

Sources stress that the situation remains fluid less than two weeks before the NBA Draft, but as of June 12, doubt is increasing that Durant will land in San Antonio and there appears to be no clear traction.

While the Spurs have continued to be one of the teams linked to Durant, league observers question whether there is enough potential alignment between the Spurs and Suns on a possible trade.

Many around the league also believe the Spurs have valued Giannis Antetokounmpo higher than Durant on their trade board, but there has been a lack of momentum surrounding Antetokounmpo’s potential availability. Given Durant’s age not aligning with Wembanyama’s timeline, league observers expect the Spurs to remain cautious about potential trade compensation.

Focus on Dylan Harper
With the No. 2 pick, the Spurs are expected to select Harper, widely viewed as the top guard prospect in the 2025 NBA Draft class behind projected No. 1 pick Cooper Flagg.

Early in the draft process, some rival teams wondered whether San Antonio might consider trading back, given the presence of De’Aaron Fox, Devin Vassell, and Stephon Castle in its backcourt. However, sources tell RG that the Spurs are comfortable staying at No. 2 and selecting Harper as the best player available.

“The current read right now is that they’re just going to take the best player available and deal with any positional questions after that,” one source said.

Trade Discussions With the Philadelphia 76ers
While reports have emerged that the Philadelphia 76ers have had exploratory talks regarding a possible swap of the No. 2 and No. 3 picks, sources who have spoken with RG believe those discussions are more about intel gathering than serious momentum.

“For now, it’s more due diligence than anything,” one source told RG.

The Spurs’ approach could still shift depending on how the trade market evolves ahead of the draft and into July. But for now, the expectation remains that the franchise will continue building around Wembanyama through a mix of young talent and future flexibility — with Harper currently viewed as the likely addition at No. 2.

“It’s early. Things change fast this time of year,” one source said. “But right now, the expectation is Harper is going to San Antonio.”
Source: https://rg.org/news/basketball/sources-spurs-unlikely-to-land-kevin-durant-pick-harper-no-2


still highest odds -125
my guess is PHX wants a lot more and teams r saying good luck we r fine
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#224 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:27 am

DG88 wrote:Take with a grain of salt but looks like Spurs won't trade the pick and draft Harper.

The San Antonio Spurs remain active in offseason discussions, but league sources tell RG there is increasing doubt the team will ultimately land Kevin Durant via trade — and the present expectation is that the Spurs will use the No. 2 overall pick in the NBA Draft to select Dylan Harper, barring a surprise development.

Sources stress that the situation remains fluid less than two weeks before the NBA Draft, but as of June 12, doubt is increasing that Durant will land in San Antonio and there appears to be no clear traction.

While the Spurs have continued to be one of the teams linked to Durant, league observers question whether there is enough potential alignment between the Spurs and Suns on a possible trade.

Many around the league also believe the Spurs have valued Giannis Antetokounmpo higher than Durant on their trade board, but there has been a lack of momentum surrounding Antetokounmpo’s potential availability. Given Durant’s age not aligning with Wembanyama’s timeline, league observers expect the Spurs to remain cautious about potential trade compensation.

Focus on Dylan Harper
With the No. 2 pick, the Spurs are expected to select Harper, widely viewed as the top guard prospect in the 2025 NBA Draft class behind projected No. 1 pick Cooper Flagg.

Early in the draft process, some rival teams wondered whether San Antonio might consider trading back, given the presence of De’Aaron Fox, Devin Vassell, and Stephon Castle in its backcourt. However, sources tell RG that the Spurs are comfortable staying at No. 2 and selecting Harper as the best player available.

“The current read right now is that they’re just going to take the best player available and deal with any positional questions after that,” one source said.

Trade Discussions With the Philadelphia 76ers
While reports have emerged that the Philadelphia 76ers have had exploratory talks regarding a possible swap of the No. 2 and No. 3 picks, sources who have spoken with RG believe those discussions are more about intel gathering than serious momentum.

“For now, it’s more due diligence than anything,” one source told RG.

The Spurs’ approach could still shift depending on how the trade market evolves ahead of the draft and into July. But for now, the expectation remains that the franchise will continue building around Wembanyama through a mix of young talent and future flexibility — with Harper currently viewed as the likely addition at No. 2.

“It’s early. Things change fast this time of year,” one source said. “But right now, the expectation is Harper is going to San Antonio.”
Source: https://rg.org/news/basketball/sources-spurs-unlikely-to-land-kevin-durant-pick-harper-no-2


Harper's worked out with a bunch of teams. I think his dad is super involved in his career, and I doubt he wants his son having to share the ball with Fox, and maybe Castle? I think there will be a trade and San Antonio is just maintaining leverage.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#225 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:42 am

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There's too much smoke around Maluach and Queen for me to hope otherwise. They're not my preference, but I trust Masai.

Tons of smoke, but I also trust that we don’t leak. Whatever Masai does is good with me too, but I just can’t help but feel a little cheated if we grab a big at 9 when there are so many good ones available in this draft.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#226 » by TNRaps4life » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:59 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Some good value in this draft

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Everyone hyping because of his size. How is he different from Ulrich Chomche?
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Post#227 » by Psubs » Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:35 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Some good value in this draft

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Everyone hyping because of his size. How is he different from Ulrich Chomche?


Exactly. 1 inch taller with a slightly bigger wingspan. I guess people see how well Chomche did in the GLeague and want that at least.

I wouldn't use a pick to get another Chomche. Get Yang or Markovic.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#228 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:41 pm

I still think BRK is going Fears/Jak/Noa. Dont think they taking KM so i expect him to be there at 9 along with Queen
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#229 » by RapsFanInOhio » Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:46 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:I still think BRK is going Fears/Jak/Noa. Dont think they taking KM so i expect him to be there at 9 along with Queen

Hard agree. I think the smoke about Maluach that has come out is because he’s slipping. 0 rebounds in 20 minutes of a national semifinal game is sticking with teams, I think. Plus, he is a bit of a project. The talent is there but I’m not sure the upside is as high as a guy like Jak even. He’s absolutely a rotational big and is going to play in the NBA for a long time, but if you’re a team that has been bad for years, I’m not sure you want that project when the offensive ceiling may not be there.
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Post#230 » by Thaddy » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:04 pm

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SpezNc wrote:I will be behind the pick we draft no matters what.

But on all the potential and realistic option at #9 Derik Queen is the player I want the less.

It’s just not my favourite profile

I understand that he is very gifted offensively but I think that drafting an undersized centre with defence limitations is a big risk

For a C, I think that size, wingspan , standing reach while being a defence anchor is more what I am looking for

At the end of the day Masai and co knows more than me (understatement) and I will trust their judgement. But I am a bit on the fence.

I hope Maluach drop to #9 but it’s likely that Queen is available at #9.

But if he is our pick, I will adjust immediately! Let’s go Queen.

Queen will probably be better than Maluach on defense. He has better hands and with improved conditioning he'll be decent on switches. His offense speaks for itself, and the FT shooting means he'll eventually develop more range. In term of stocks he is much better than Maluach.

If the top 8, including Maluach are gone and Kon drops. I'd skip him and if I'm going for potential Queen is up there. I'd say he's top 3-5 in terms of potential.

Queen, Mogbo, Ingram, Barnes and RJ would be interesting to see on the court. A lot of passing and size.


I'll bet you whatever it is you wanna bet that Queen will not be a better defender than Maluach, I don't even understand how or why you would say that. He's longer than him, never had any motor concerns, defensively he's more mobile than him as is, and I'm not sure Maluach has stone hands when he was like the best college offensive rebounder.

Offensively sure, but defensively, not a chance he's better than Khaman. Ppl act like Khaman wasn't just at Duke, like he was playing in the BAL the last 5yrs. He literally anchored the defense of a final 4 team

Better hands and stock numbers definitely mean something.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#231 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:10 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I still think BRK is going Fears/Jak/Noa. Dont think they taking KM so i expect him to be there at 9 along with Queen

Hard agree. I think the smoke about Maluach that has come out is because he’s slipping. 0 rebounds in 20 minutes of a national semifinal game is sticking with teams, I think. Plus, he is a bit of a project. The talent is there but I’m not sure the upside is as high as a guy like Jak even. He’s absolutely a rotational big and is going to play in the NBA for a long time, but if you’re a team that has been bad for years, I’m not sure you want that project when the offensive ceiling may not be there.


Bingo.
I just look at the top 8 teams before us and think they rather go talented guard/wing over a rim running big. Plus Brooklyn has 3 picks - I would be shocked if their game plan wasn't find a guard/wing at 8 and then go get a big later on (since there's a bunch).

After falling 2 spots to 9, Toronto might be okay. I mean all this big talk could be all smoke but I would be shocked if we dont come away with 1 of KM or Queen.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#232 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:20 pm

zach harper , not intel
would love for Fears though
Zach Harper

There aren’t many things I love in June more than a mock draft. I enjoy learning about prospects before the NBA Draft Lottery determines the order, but once we know that order and start moving toward that first announcement that a team is on the clock, I start poring over everything Sam Vecenie and John Hollinger are putting out there with a fine-tooth comb.

One thing is often missing from their analysis, though: Chaos.


Remember draft night in 2013? We were wondering if Victor Oladipo or Nerlens Noel would be the top pick, then David Stern shocked the world by announcing the Cleveland Cavaliers were selecting Anthony Bennett with the No. 1 pick. We rarely get that level of mayhem in the NBA Draft, but we do get quite a few surprises.


I wanted to join in on the mock draft madness by throwing some potential chaos into the mix, while sharing some thoughts on team situations and prospects throughout. I want the havoc to be somewhat believable, though, so you won’t see something like VJ Edgecombe or Kon Knueppel going No. 1 overall.



1. Dallas Mavericks
Cooper Flagg | 6-8 forward | 18 years old | Duke
Of course, it’s Flagg! He was always going to be the No. 1 pick, and not even Nico Harrison would pick anybody except him with the top selection, especially after the year Harrison has endured (self-inflicted, of course). Flagg is clearly the top prospect in this draft and the most ready to play. He’ll fit in right away on defense, as I think he’ll be able to defend multiple positions. But I think he’s going to be in a logjam with the rest of the Mavs’ frontcourt. Dereck Lively II, Anthony Davis, Daniel Gafford, P.J. Washington and Flagg? Not to mention Naji Marshall, whose best position is small forward. That’s a great frontcourt, but you’re asking Flagg to play out of position for now.



2. San Antonio Spurs
Dylan Harper | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Rutgers
Maybe you could talk yourself into Ace Bailey here for a little chaos, but Harper is the definite second pick. He has to go here, even with Stephon Castle and De’Aaron Fox already on the roster. The Spurs grab the best player available and figure it out later. The easy part of drafting Harper here is that he’s a big guard. You can play him next to Castle and Fox to give you a really dynamic playmaking trio on the perimeter, and with Victor Wembanyama backing them up, they can be very aggressive defensively.


We have a trade to announce: The Dallas Mavericks are trading the draft rights to Cooper Flagg, P.J. Washington and Caleb Martin to the San Antonio Spurs in exchange for the draft rights to Dylan Harper, the No. 14 pick in this draft, the Spurs’ 2026 first-round pick, a lottery protected 2028 first-round pick and Keldon Johnson. Film noir! That’s right. Harrison couldn’t help himself, and after getting skewered for not getting enough for Luka Dončić, he’s getting a lot of draft capital in return in this deal. Let’s break down why the trade would happen for both teams:
The Spurs pair Flagg and Wemby together while still having Castle and Fox as a playmaking, dynamic backcourt. That’s an incredible barbershop quartet on both ends of the floor. It needs a little more shooting, but all four guys can eventually become good enough shooters, and they have guys on the roster to fill it out. Defensively, Flagg and Wemby together could be truly devastating. I’d say Flagg projects as a Shawn Marion-esque difference-maker on that end. He’s active, athletic and has great instincts on the ball. With a rim protector like Wemby behind him, it would allow him to be even more aggressive.


You may be asking yourself, “Why would the Mavericks actually do this?” But what part of any Harrison trade would actually shock you at this point? I went from completely trusting him as an executive to thinking that anything good or bad is possible with his decision-making. Grabbing Harper as the guard of the future and someone who can learn from Kyrie Irving is massive. It also helps them in the interim as Irving works his way back from the ACL tear and puts less pressure on him to get back quickly.


3. Philadelphia 76ers
Khaman Maluach | 7-1 big | 19 years old | Duke
A couple of reasons for this pick could, in theory, make sense, even as outlandish as it appears to be. Yes, Maluach is a center, and Joel Embiid is a center, and you’re not going to employ two franchise centers at the same time. That is, if you believe Maluach has the potential to become a franchise center. But we know Embiid is 31, his body simply doesn’t hold up, and the Sixers have to start wondering how much longer they can afford to roll with this process. Bringing in Maluach gives some clarity on what that succession plan looks like, and hopefully, he learns heavily from Embiid on a daily basis.

4. Charlotte Hornets
Tre Johnson | 6-5 wing | 19 years old | Texas
Maybe VJ Edgecombe can’t fall past the top four, but I kind of like the idea of just going with a super scorer here. Johnson is a guy who could possibly end up averaging 25 points per game in a season someday. He can shoot the ball, he doesn’t turn it over, and he really gets those shots up. He might be a perfect complement on offense to LaMelo Ball and Brandon Miller, if they can stay healthy. This Hornets team has yet to show it can be competent, so at least be fun. Offense is fun.

5. Utah Jazz
Kon Knueppel | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Duke
Yes, I know what I’m doing here. Yes, you know what I’m doing here. No, I don’t feel bad going for the low-hanging fruit. With that said, I’m not big on Knueppel, despite his skill set. He can really shoot, and he’s a good passer. But when I’ve watched him, it feels like he plays a lot smaller than his size. Maybe that changes at the NBA level, where he has to play up to his height, if not bigger. His wingspan won’t help, but maybe he’s a better version of Luke Kennard.

6. Washington Wizards
VJ Edgecombe | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | Baylor
Edgecombe falls to the Wizards here, and it could be a lot of fun. They still don’t have the guy to build around in this scenario. Maybe if Johnson falls there, you could talk yourself into him as a scorer. But now you’re talking about a young core of Alex Sarr, Bub Carrington, Bilal Coulibaly, Kyshawn George and Edgecombe. If you can’t sell fans on tapping in to watching them develop on the court, you simply can’t sell. Edgecombe is a ridiculous athlete; he can shoot the ball, and he’s a solid playmaker.

7. New Orleans Pelicans
Derik Queen | 6-9 big | 20 years old | Maryland
Joe Dumars has taken over the Pelicans. There is an undersized big man — who might not be able to stretch the floor at the NBA level — with a lot of skill to entice you. Ideally, you’d play him next to a proper center and watch them grow together. Instead, it looks like the Pelicans would be playing him next to Zion Williamson for now. I can’t think of a more Dumars way for him to put his stamp on the start of this era. Queen is good. He just wouldn’t be the fit I’m looking for here.

8. Brooklyn Nets
Asa Newell | 6-9 forward | 19 years old | Georgia
The Nets need some potential stars, and they miss out a bit here by landing at No. 8. While some may assume Jeremiah Fears could be the guy for them because of his lead guard and scoring abilities, they should swing for the fences with Newell. Maybe he’s still available at No. 19 when they pick again (they have four picks in the first round), but I’d gamble here. He has the potential to defend, and he’s high energy. He’s a bit of a development project, but there’s a lot to mine.

9. Toronto Raptors
Jeremiah Fears | 6-3 guard | 18 years old | Oklahoma
I love this pick for a few reasons. 1) You could maybe see it moved in a play for Giannis Antetokounmpo if Masai Ujiri were so bold. 2) It could also make him the lead guard of the future if Immanuel Quickley is part of the package moved in a potential Giannis deal. 3) I think it’s good to have Fears to push Quickley in general. Yes, Quickley has a massive contract, but he’s also a bit injury-prone, and I think it’s good to have a young player to spark some competition with more established veterans. You can also play them together against smaller lineups. Fears is a tremendous scorer and weapon.

10. Houston Rockets (via Phoenix)
Kasparas Jakučionis | 6-5 lead guard | 19 years old | Illinois
I’ll fully admit I was not a Reed Sheppard guy at Kentucky and didn’t understand the hype of him being a third pick in last year’s draft. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong about that, and he will find a way to make an impact. This Rockets team could use his shooting. I’ll keep that string going here by choosing another guard I’m not sold on. Jakučionis is a big lead guard with a lot of skills, but he could really struggle to get separation to show those skills in the NBA.

Kasparas Jakučionis drives to the basket against Tennessee Volunteers guard Chaz Lanier. (Ron Johnson / Imagn Images)
11. Portland Trail Blazers
Joan Beringer | 6-10 big | 19 years old | Cedevita
It is a bit of a stretch to take Beringer this high, but I think he’s a perfect fit for what the Blazers could need. We’ve seen Chauncey Billups get through to this group defensively, and Portland had success on that end of the floor throughout the second half of the season. Beringer has a 7-foot-3 wingspan, he’s super athletic and has great hands around the basket on both ends. He’d be a good change of pace to throw in the mix with Donovan Clingan, and I’d love to see him work with Scoot Henderson in the pick-and-roll.

12. Chicago Bulls
Ace Bailey | 6-8 wing | 18 years old | Rutgers
You were probably wondering whether I forgot about Bailey. Absolutely not! There are some draft nights in which a player falls for odd reasons, and it invites some very intriguing chaos. We saw it with Cam Whitmore falling to the Rockets at No. 20 in 2023. I’m wondering if Bailey measuring at 6-7 1/2 without shoes after everybody thought he was 6-10 at Rutgers is going to impact his draft stock. It very well could. Enough to fall all the way down here? That seems dramatic, but I could see him taking a bit of a dive if a team like the Sixers isn’t sold on him helping it win now, or if Charlotte or Washington believe he doesn’t fit with their wings. He projects now as a wing rather than a 6-10 scoring forward. It doesn’t sound like a huge difference, but it could be.

13. Atlanta Hawks (via Sacramento)
Carter Bryant | 6-7 wing | 19 years old | Arizona
One of the bigger mysteries in this draft is Bryant, whom I’ve heard plenty of people be torn on. Some think he could be one of the gems of the late lottery. Some think his NBA future is entirely dependent on where he ends up for his development. He might be able to shoot at the NBA level. He might be able to playmake. Regardless, he should be good at defending. This feels like a Hawks player for Quin Snyder and his group to work on.

14. San Antonio Spurs (via Atlanta)
Noa Essengue | 6-9 forward | 18 years old | Ratiopharm Ulm
Essengue doesn’t have a great wingspan (6-11), but he’s still a forward with good size and the potential to stretch the floor. Remember, in this scenario, the pick is headed to Dallas as part of the Cooper Flagg trade. Maybe you forgot about it as you scrolled down, and this just made you mad all over again. I understand, but such is life. Essengue is a project, and Dallas could really benefit from him down the road if he develops.
15. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Miami)

Collin Murray-Boyles | 6-7 wing | 20 years old | South Carolina
The rich just keep getting richer. Murray-Boyles projects as a potential top-10 pick, but in this mock, he’s falling to OKC. He’s the perfect guy for the Thunder to develop. Murray-Boyles is a dynamite defender, and we know the Thunder don’t really have guys who can’t excel on that end of the floor. He’s a good playmaker and a fantastic rebounder. I would imagine the Thunder’s magic development will get him an outside shot, and we’ll continue to wonder how they keep stockpiling these players.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#233 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:34 pm

Kon Kneppel has a lot of fans within New Orleans as per no ceilings
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Post#234 » by Psubs » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:54 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I still think BRK is going Fears/Jak/Noa. Dont think they taking KM so i expect him to be there at 9 along with Queen

Hard agree. I think the smoke about Maluach that has come out is because he’s slipping. 0 rebounds in 20 minutes of a national semifinal game is sticking with teams, I think. Plus, he is a bit of a project. The talent is there but I’m not sure the upside is as high as a guy like Jak even. He’s absolutely a rotational big and is going to play in the NBA for a long time, but if you’re a team that has been bad for years, I’m not sure you want that project when the offensive ceiling may not be there.


Bingo.
I just look at the top 8 teams before us and think they rather go talented guard/wing over a rim running big. Plus Brooklyn has 3 picks - I would be shocked if their game plan wasn't find a guard/wing at 8 and then go get a big later on (since there's a bunch).

After falling 2 spots to 9, Toronto might be okay. I mean all this big talk could be all smoke but I would be shocked if we dont come away with 1 of KM or Queen.


Even last year, better to use a later pick on Kel'el Ware or Ives Missi than a top 10 on Clingan or Edey. This draft if loaded with bigs in the latter half of the 1st round with Sorber, Newell, Markovic, Beringer, Wolf, Kalkbrenner, Raynaud, Yang, etc.

Since no big is clearly a top 5 pick, should just use a later one.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#235 » by Psubs » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:08 pm

Dallas - Flagg (guess SA can trade up for Cooper)
SA - Harper
Phi - Tre
Cha - VJ
Utah - Kon
Was - Bailey
NO - Fears
BK - Jakucionus
Toronto trades 9 for #13 and 22. Atl - Maluach (Atlanta has improved defense and Maluach can anchor it)
Hou - CMB
Por - Demin
Chi - Queen
Tor (via Atl) - Carter Bryant!!! :D
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#236 » by douggood » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:16 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Kon Kneppel has a lot of fans within New Orleans as per no ceilings

we all know that dumars is going to do a knee jerk thing
already reports of him interested in #2 and #3 pick. he is going to end up paying a godfather offer to move up 2-3 spots and to boot select Kneppel
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Post#237 » by douggood » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:23 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#238 » by RapsFanInOhio » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:34 pm

Psubs wrote:Dallas - Flagg (guess SA can trade up for Cooper)
SA - Harper
Phi - Tre
Cha - VJ
Utah - Kon
Was - Bailey
NO - Fears
BK - Jakucionus
Toronto trades 9 for #13 and 22. Atl - Maluach (Atlanta has improved defense and Maluach can anchor it)
Hou - CMB
Por - Demin
Chi - Queen
Tor (via Atl) - Carter Bryant!!! :D

Aside from the fact that if Maluach is there, we’re absolutely taking him, I’m just not sure that they would want to add 3 rookies in this draft. It’s a solid draft and while I get why people keep proposing this, they have said previously that there’s effectually a limit on the number of young guys that they want to develop at any given time.

This roster, as constructed, is full of young talent that still need minutes. In this scenario, Bryant is probably playing in the G League most of the season with random call ups for injuries, etc. Maluach can fill a role on this team immediately and you can develop him along side the other young bench guys while he plays minutes at the NBA level. Then, you have 39 and you’re really open to BPA at that point, plus maybe an undrafted guy and Chomche, that you can focus on developing at the G League level for the next season or two. It’s a good development pipeline.

I get that there’s an argument to be made for consolidating assets at some point, but we have two picks in every draft until 2031 if needed. The MO of this front office has been to evaluate as pieces are added instead of rushing to change things, and they have a roster (especially with Maluach) that fits together pretty well:
IQ / Shead / UDFA or 2nd
Barrett / Walter / Battle
Ingram / Dick / Agbaji
Barnes / Mgobo / Boucher Vet Min / 2nd
Poeltl / Maluach / Vet Min / Chomche

Very solid. All of this is out the window if Giannis becomes available but I just think we have enough historical evidence that shows this is the path we’ll take.

Edit: you can probably swap Maluach with Queen and come to the same conclusion.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#239 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:42 pm

RapsFanInOhio wrote:
Psubs wrote:Dallas - Flagg (guess SA can trade up for Cooper)
SA - Harper
Phi - Tre
Cha - VJ
Utah - Kon
Was - Bailey
NO - Fears
BK - Jakucionus
Toronto trades 9 for #13 and 22. Atl - Maluach (Atlanta has improved defense and Maluach can anchor it)
Hou - CMB
Por - Demin
Chi - Queen
Tor (via Atl) - Carter Bryant!!! :D

Aside from the fact that if Maluach is there, we’re absolutely taking him, I’m just not sure that they would want to add 3 rookies in this draft. It’s a solid draft and while I get why people keep proposing this, they have said previously that there’s effectually a limit on the number of young guys that they want to develop at any given time.

This roster, as constructed, is full of young talent that still need minutes. In this scenario, Bryant is probably playing in the G League most of the season with random call ups for injuries, etc. Maluach can fill a role on this team immediately and you can develop him along side the other young bench guys while he plays minutes at the NBA level. Then, you have 39 and you’re really open to BPA at that point, plus maybe an undrafted guy and Chomche, that you can focus on developing at the G League level for the next season or two. It’s a good development pipeline.

I get that there’s an argument to be made for consolidating assets at some point, but we have two picks in every draft until 2031 if needed. The MO of this front office has been to evaluate as pieces are added instead of rushing to change things, and they have a roster (especially with Maluach) that fits together pretty well:
IQ / Shead / UDFA or 2nd
Barrett / Walter / Battle
Ingram / Dick / Agbaji
Barnes / Mgobo / Boucher Vet Min / 2nd
Poeltl / Maluach / Vet Min / Chomche

Very solid. All of this is out the window if Giannis becomes available but I just think we have enough historical evidence that shows this is the path we’ll take.

Edit: you can probably swap Maluach with Queen and come to the same conclusion.


Who do you like better between KM or Queen?
What do you think the team will do if KM or Queen are on the board?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#240 » by Yallbecrazy » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:46 pm

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

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