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Thank Nation! Pre-Lottery: Denver 9th, NY pick 7th (PART 4)

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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#241 » by Risk101 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:03 am

Look out for Patrick Mccaw. Sneaky wing player that isn't getting much attention at the moment but he's efficient as hell. Definitely looks like a Masai type pick.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#242 » by Gold Dragon » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:34 am

CoachJReturns wrote:I actually like Rabb a lot and part of that is the same reason I could be okay with Korkmaz. They're both so young still. Whoever we draft will not play. Theyll be in the d league. So if Masai thinks one of the youngest guys can be special in a few years I'm down with the long game. As long as he trades some of the assets he's accumulated for a power forward I'm fine.

I think Rabb is good at what he does and will be a good player in the league. My concern is that his skill set (even if it reaches Bosh levels) is just not that valuable in today's NBA. And as we see with guys like Jason Thompson, Luis Scola, Tyler Hansborough, the cheap PF market is one of the biggest market inefficiencies in the NBA. Why use assets like high picks and large chunks of the salary cap when you can find someone who provides 80% of that production for pennies in free agency?

This is if Rabb hits his peak as someone like Bosh which I really don't see as he is nowhere near that level. If he becomes what I expect he will become, even his rookie scale salary will not be good value. A traditional PF will need to have the potential to be the best in the league at his position to be worth a high pick and salary investment. This is not Rabb.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#243 » by bonjovi0308 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 11:15 am

I would hope to pick Demetris Jackson if he is availalbe for the Knicks pick...Yes we already have 3pgs BUT how often can you get an explosive PG who can shoot and play a 2 way game? Lowry will be on his final year contract and Jackson's upside is much higher than Joseph's and Wright's. Unfortunatelly I don't think Masai will pick him. He will probably pick the person based on fit rather than BPA with the Knicks pick.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#244 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:19 pm

CoachJReturns wrote:Spurs rested most of their starters . This game meant nothing to them. Breaking my heart Pop. It's cool. The guys I want will be available at our pick. I just hope Murray or Bender or Brown doesn't go 1 spot before ours. That would really suck.


Raptors beat Indiana without Lowry, DeRozan, Carroll, and Scola. If the Spurs can't do the same, then they"re garbage.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#245 » by MEDIC » Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:32 pm

bonjovi0308 wrote:I would hope to pick Demetris Jackson if he is availalbe for the Knicks pick...Yes we already have 3pgs BUT how often can you get an explosive PG who can shoot and play a 2 way game? Lowry will be on his final year contract and Jackson's upside is much higher than Joseph's and Wright's. Unfortunatelly I don't think Masai will pick him. He will probably pick the person based on fit rather than BPA with the Knicks pick.


He's still my top guy too (if nobody falls). Even with Wright looking a lot better lately, I still would take him.

I think he could legitimately take over the starting role from Lowry in a few years. Right now, I'm not sure we have that guy & those are very important shoes to fill.

The biggest thing I see him needing improvement on is his dribble, but I think it will tighten naturally after a couple of seasons of NBA experience.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#246 » by UcanUwill » Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:49 pm

Can't wait for this years draft.
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Post#247 » by 0 - 100 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:12 pm

Magic 34-45

Apr 10 @Miami L
Apr 11 Mil W
Apr 13 @Char L

...final record: 35-47


Bucks 32-47

Apr 10 @Phi W
Apr 11 @Orl L
Apr 13 Ind L

..final record: 33-49


Sacramento 31-48

Apr 9 OKC L
Apr 11 @Pho W
Apr 13 @Hou L

...final record: 32-50

Denver 33-47

Apr 10 Utah L
Apr 13 @Port L

..final record: 33-49

Knicks 32-48

Apr 8 @Phi W
Apr 10 Tor L
Apr 12 @Ind L

..final record 32-50



Sac is garbage. I doubt they even win one more game the rest of the way. Our focus should be rooting for the Bucks. ORL has to keep playing well also. This pick will probably be 9th or 10th.
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Post#248 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:28 pm

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Post#249 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:33 pm

bonjovi0308 wrote:I would hope to pick Demetris Jackson if he is availalbe for the Knicks pick...Yes we already have 3pgs BUT how often can you get an explosive PG who can shoot and play a 2 way game? Lowry will be on his final year contract and Jackson's upside is much higher than Joseph's and Wright's. Unfortunatelly I don't think Masai will pick him. He will probably pick the person based on fit rather than BPA with the Knicks pick.


Only in the sense that Wright and Joseph are a bit older. I think there is close to zero chance we take a point guard in a draft full of big men. If Jackson were thought to be a can't miss allstar, and remember Lillard has yet to become one, then yes pick him but my money is on Rabb or Luwawu at this point.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 8th, DEN 10th (PART 4) 

Post#250 » by UcanUwill » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:37 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:Henry Ellenson review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qW39BE8yg8


pity the team that drafts him. i honestly rather have Sabonis
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Post#251 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:43 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Henry Ellenson review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qW39BE8yg8


pity the team that drafts him. i honestly rather have Sabonis


If we end up 10th and we reach for Sabonis with good info to do so I would fully accept that. I would also be looking for some hot sauce Masai magic at 26.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 8th, DEN 10th (PART 4) 

Post#252 » by mad-man » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:45 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Henry Ellenson review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qW39BE8yg8


pity the team that drafts him. i honestly rather have Sabonis


Mobility/weight are gonna be a big challenge for this guy. Needs to be beside a Biyombo type player to cover him defensively. Offensively, I really like him, a below the rim, more athletic Kevin Love type.

See him as a bench, scoring 4.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 8th, DEN 10th (PART 4) 

Post#253 » by mad-man » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:48 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Henry Ellenson review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qW39BE8yg8


pity the team that drafts him. i honestly rather have Sabonis


Sabonis is trouble - look up Thomas Robinson. Below average length doesn't cut it in the league. Powell has a bigger wingspan than Sabonis
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#254 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:04 pm

Dennis 37 wrote:
CoachJReturns wrote:Spurs rested most of their starters . This game meant nothing to them. Breaking my heart Pop. It's cool. The guys I want will be available at our pick. I just hope Murray or Bender or Brown doesn't go 1 spot before ours. That would really suck.


Raptors beat Indiana without Lowry, DeRozan, Carroll, and Scola. If the Spurs can't do the same, then they"re garbage.

We can't beat Denver with our starters, so this is invalid.
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Post#255 » by Fast_Feets » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:17 pm

I'll take any player with metrics in the top 3 of draftexpress top 100. Gary Payton Jr is number 2 of 100 for rebounding.

I think powell was top in field goal percentage #1 for sg at 60.# percent which is pretty amazing.
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Post#256 » by Dalek » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:49 pm

Domantas Sabonis makes absolute sense for us. If you think of the type of player Toronto develops it's those guys with the work ethic to get the most out of their abilities. Sabonis has a great work ethic and motor and skill level. His length holds him back for most, but you don't need length to be on a good defensive team.

I see him as a Kelly Olynyk type player who despite his lack of shotblocking is a plus defender. I think Sabonis will be better, maybe a few steps below Draymond Green due to his lack of length and shooting, but he can pass and his shooting is developing. He really reminds of Nocioni with the edge he plays with. I think Casey loves physical players, so he should be on the radar.

I think you could immediately make him the back-up PF behind Patterson and he'd be a perfect fit. I don't know if you draft him at 9, but there are so many project PFs, he might be a safe bet if they want NBA ready and believe in his upside.
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Post#257 » by MEDIC » Sat Apr 9, 2016 6:08 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
bonjovi0308 wrote:I would hope to pick Demetris Jackson if he is availalbe for the Knicks pick...Yes we already have 3pgs BUT how often can you get an explosive PG who can shoot and play a 2 way game? Lowry will be on his final year contract and Jackson's upside is much higher than Joseph's and Wright's. Unfortunatelly I don't think Masai will pick him. He will probably pick the person based on fit rather than BPA with the Knicks pick.


Only in the sense that Wright and Joseph are a bit older. I think there is close to zero chance we take a point guard in a draft full of big men. If Jackson were thought to be a can't miss allstar, and remember Lillard has yet to become one, then yes pick him but my money is on Rabb or Luwawu at this point.


Definitely not just an age thing. Speed & overall athleticism helps Jackson have the higher upside. Not to mention he can pretty much score from anywhere.
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Post#258 » by CoachJReturns » Sat Apr 9, 2016 6:12 pm

Fast_Feets wrote:I'll take any player with metrics in the top 3 of draftexpress top 100. Gary Payton Jr is number 2 of 100 for rebounding.

I think powell was top in field goal percentage #1 for sg at 60.# percent which is pretty amazing.

I like Payton. Don't think we really have a place for him with our glut of guards, but I like his athleticism and defense.
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Post#259 » by TheGoodDoctor » Sat Apr 9, 2016 6:18 pm

I can't believe the amount of ppl that want a slightly more polished Hansborough with our pick...Sabonis...puke worthy

This is probably our lone chance to draft in the lottery for at least the next 4 years and you want to waste it on some energy big that most of you see admit will be a role player n likely a good off the bench PF?! Wtf is that?! lol who the heck targets a role player in the top 10?!

Although yes I like everybody has no idea what Masai is thinking but I'm gonna go out on limb n say I find highly unlikely he is looking at him with Knick pick considering he's never had the opportunity to draft this high n I find hard to believe he sets his sights so low that he just looks for a good rotation player. Also considering the first name he's been attached to Korkmaz it would seem he is looking for upside so I'm thankful it doesn't appear he has the same trail of thought as some of you. But I'm just blown away that there is even a small portion of ppl who would be as shortsighted to draft based on fit with our lone lotto pick for probably years to come...smh...I'm not even sure I'd take him with our own pick nevermind flushing our lotto pick down the toilet for a ceiling role player.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 8th, DEN 10th (PART 4) 

Post#260 » by Jstock12 » Sat Apr 9, 2016 6:32 pm

mad-man wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Henry Ellenson review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qW39BE8yg8


pity the team that drafts him. i honestly rather have Sabonis


Sabonis is trouble - look up Thomas Robinson. Below average length doesn't cut it in the league. Powell has a bigger wingspan than Sabonis


Sabonis doesn't have good length, but what does Thomas Robinson have to do with anything here? Compared to Sabonis, T-Rob is very raw skillwise. Maybe the only thing they have in common is the high motor.

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