Shams: Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors

[will]

Our core moving forward are former g-league champs

And NBA champs.

Talk to 'em OakleyDokely!

[Lukeem]

Our core moving forward are former g-league champs

There are a couple young cores that have more potential than ours sure. The grass is not always greener

We have OG(23) Siakam (26) and FVV (26) locked up

OG should be entering prime in a couple years and is a proven playoff performer, top level defender that can step up in big moments without hesitation. Proven shooter, showed flashes of being a playmaker in bubble definitely an area to focus improvement in

Siakam is a proven #2 option nba champ that is close to all defense levels. Obviously struggled as a top option. But has shown constant huge improvement

Fvv. Proven 2 way performer in the finals.


How many other teams can boast 3 players locked up / controlled going into their primes.


Unless they show major jumps obviously we need more, but major jumps from 1 or more of very possible.

[Steelo Green]

This board is in a struggle to become either better like the past few years or returning to the old days where it was unbearable to read because there was nothing here of substance and it was just endless negativity and moaning.

The irony of people moaning about this so called moaning and going off on substance when others post stats and context whereas you post complaining about others and their point of view.

What exactly do you have hubris about? Do you post anything that isn’t complaining.

[Steelo Green]

Our core moving forward are former g-league champs

There are a couple young cores that have more potential than ours sure. The grass is not always greener

We have OG(23) Siakam (26) and FVV (26) locked up

OG should be entering prime in a couple years and is a proven playoff performer, top level defender that can step up in big moments without hesitation. Proven shooter, showed flashes of being a playmaker in bubble definitely an area to focus improvement in

Siakam is a proven #2 option nba champ that is close to all defense levels. Obviously struggled as a top option. But has shown constant huge improvement

Fvv. Proven 2 way performer in the finals.


How many other teams can boast 3 players locked up / controlled going into their primes.


Unless they show major jumps obviously we need more, but major jumps from 1 or more of very possible.

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

[Lukeem]

Our core moving forward are former g-league champs

There are a couple young cores that have more potential than ours sure. The grass is not always greener

We have OG(23) Siakam (26) and FVV (26) locked up

OG should be entering prime in a couple years and is a proven playoff performer, top level defender that can step up in big moments without hesitation. Proven shooter, showed flashes of being a playmaker in bubble definitely an area to focus improvement in

Siakam is a proven #2 option nba champ that is close to all defense levels. Obviously struggled as a top option. But has shown constant huge improvement

Fvv. Proven 2 way performer in the finals.


How many other teams can boast 3 players locked up / controlled going into their primes.


Unless they show major jumps obviously we need more, but major jumps from 1 or more of very possible.

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

[Steelo Green]

There are a couple young cores that have more potential than ours sure. The grass is not always greener

We have OG(23) Siakam (26) and FVV (26) locked up

OG should be entering prime in a couple years and is a proven playoff performer, top level defender that can step up in big moments without hesitation. Proven shooter, showed flashes of being a playmaker in bubble definitely an area to focus improvement in

Siakam is a proven #2 option nba champ that is close to all defense levels. Obviously struggled as a top option. But has shown constant huge improvement

Fvv. Proven 2 way performer in the finals.


How many other teams can boast 3 players locked up / controlled going into their primes.


Unless they show major jumps obviously we need more, but major jumps from 1 or more of very possible.

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

[Johnny Bball]

This board is in a struggle to become either better like the past few years or returning to the old days where it was unbearable to read because there was nothing here of substance and it was just endless negativity and moaning.

The irony of people moaning about this so called moaning and going off on substance when others post stats and context whereas you post complaining about others and their point of view.

What exactly do you have hubris about? Do you post anything that isn’t complaining.

Yeah. lmfao all the time. What an amazing hypocritical post.

Was my post responding to you? Just stop ever responding to me. I really get zero from you posts except your personal internal dilemmas and have had you on ignore forever.

[NBJ13]

Our core moving forward are former g-league champs

And NBA champs.

Speaks volumes about raps scouting and player development and culture

[Son Goku 25]

I love that he's back. Believe it or not having Lowry and Fvv will help bring Giannis here, he respects them and knows they are winners. My only concern is that again, well be undersized in the back court. Well be even smaller now with Gasol and Ibaka out. I guess Masai is okay with that for this year.

[Lukeem]

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

He’s locked up for 2 years if we want it. So factually you’re still wrong. That’s with like a 90% chance it’s at least a couple more years.

Boo hoo... you got called a troll.

Read comprehend then reply if your last post wasn’t a bunch of whining BS. I had actual discussions points then you put in a straw man and try to change the conversation.

[OakleyDokely]

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

Every post you make is 'raps core is trash' and you expect a serious discussion?

[Steelo Green]

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

He’s locked up for 2 years if we want it. So factually you’re still wrong. That’s with like a 90% chance it’s at least a couple more years.

Boo hoo... you got called a troll.

Read comprehend then reply if your last post wasn’t a bunch of whining BS. I had actual discussions points then you put in a straw man and try to change the conversation.

No, he’s not locked up for 2 years. He will be a RFA in 2021 lol. That’s the facts. Wanting to do something and ending up doing it are simply not the same thing.

You wanting something that isn’t factually correct to be true but adding all these caveats to it makes no difference. OG is locked in this season and then a FA next year.

Lovely response. Again - when someone goes against the grain, they are called a troll. Call me whatever you like but this puffing of the chest because 90% of posters here like to support only positive points doesn’t make you right, just more with the cult.

What discussion did you make exactly lol. Let’s revisit:

-We’ve already gone over the OG point of which you’re wrong so that’s covered
-You called me an ignorant troll; which is what actual discussion exactly?
-I have bridge of misery, which again isn’t any discussion, and ironic considering you called me dumb and you got upset at my post so much that it’s filled with conjecture and vitriol based on the fact you’re wrong about OG and this being a mediocre core

So yes, great mature discussion. I’m definitely miserable and angry and it’s definitely not you upset at me because I said something you disagreed with and resorted to childish quips and assuming intention.

Bravo, well played.

[Lukeem]

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

Every post you make is 'raps core is trash' and you expect a serious discussion?

If even have a serious discussion if that was the topic and he actually responded to what I or anyone else was saying. But it’s just garbage comprehension.

[Steelo Green]

We can match any deal with og he’s locked up for at the very least two years if we want and he hates it here and wants out. More than likely he signs a multi year deal either extends with us or signs an offer sheet and we match.


That answers the dumb part of your post.

The rest of yours is ignorant trolling. If you want an actual intelligent conversation read, comprehend then respond.

Otherwise good luck trying to pull random people under your bridge of misery with you.

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

Every post you make is 'raps core is trash' and you expect a serious discussion?

Raps core is mediocre. That’s just true.

Every post you all make is it’s great and the future is bright, so you can post your everything is great but I can’t post my honestly this group isn’t going to be anything with regard to title aspirations.

I love how the vitriol of “trash” is added. I said compared to the actual cores currently and moving forward - it’s pretty mediocre. Do you genuinely believe Fred + Pascal + OG is a good core without Kyle?

It’s honestly comical that you responded with “you say negative things which is your opinion so people won’t take you seriously”. So I’m supposed to fake that this is a great group so I can And+ and be buddy buddy and just have people quote me to agree?

This place is going down hill if you can’t have any discussion of critique instead of yeah we look great.

And before you say everything I say is negative - I don’t like this team moving forward or the direction. Our eggs are all in the 2021 basket which will likely be a hilarious overpay for Dipo and a 4-7 playoff team for 5 years.

Teams have superstars or superstar level talent, we don’t, and Kawhi isn’t falling out of the sky again as much as people are hoping for it.

It’s like people literally forget the Demar years because the afterglow of the title remains forever despite us going down the same path.

[Steelo Green]

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

Every post you make is 'raps core is trash' and you expect a serious discussion?

If even have a serious discussion if that was the topic and he actually responded to what I or anyone else was saying. But it’s just garbage comprehension.

I responded to everything you said. The irony is rich here.

Maybe you should revisit the term comprehension and it’s terms but hey let’s continue with the personal and mature quips.

[Lukeem]

Uhh, you said he was locked up. That’s factually incorrect. So not sure what’s dumb about a fact.

The rest of my post with regard to us having one of the worst cores in the NBA is ignorant trolling because what, you disagree with it?

This place is becoming a cult. Any discussion against the grain and people get on you like a hawk and compound it with the same stuff over and over again without actual discussion.

Luckily a few of team positive posters actually discuss and I respect them for having mature discussion instead of these “you’re stupid or a troll” comments when they don’t have anything to add to the discussion.

He’s locked up for 2 years if we want it. So factually you’re still wrong. That’s with like a 90% chance it’s at least a couple more years.

Boo hoo... you got called a troll.

Read comprehend then reply if your last post wasn’t a bunch of whining BS. I had actual discussions points then you put in a straw man and try to change the conversation.

No, he’s not locked up for 2 years. He will be a RFA in 2021 lol. That’s the facts. Wanting to do something and ending up doing it are simply not the same thing.

You wanting something that isn’t factually correct to be true but adding all these caveats to it makes no difference. OG is locked in this season and then a FA next year.

Lovely response. Again - when someone goes against the grain, they are called a troll. Call me whatever you like but this puffing of the chest because 90% of posters here like to support only positive points doesn’t make you right, just more with the cult.

What discussion did you make exactly lol. Let’s revisit:

-We’ve already gone over the OG point of which you’re wrong so that’s covered
-You called me an ignorant troll; which is what actual discussion exactly?
-I have bridge of misery, which again isn’t any discussion, and ironic considering you called me dumb and you got upset at my post so much that it’s filled with conjecture and vitriol based on the fact you’re wrong about OG and this being a mediocre core

So yes, great mature discussion. I’m definitely miserable and angry and it’s definitely not you upset at me because I said something you disagreed with and resorted to childish quips and assuming intention.

Bravo, well played.

We have og for next year then we as a team have him for the very least another year if we want it. The amount is in the air but QO is low enough for our big opportunity in FA who cares I don’t.


That’s if he insists on signing a one year offer sheet or extension only which off the top of your head can you name 2 players that have ever done that at his caliber?



My points were talking about why og, fvv, and siakam is a good group of young proven players.

Pointing out the obvious trolling, straw man argument and complaining afterwards was a simple response to your post which shows your hypocrisy in everything you’ve posted since.

[Steelo Green]

He’s locked up for 2 years if we want it. So factually you’re still wrong. That’s with like a 90% chance it’s at least a couple more years.

Boo hoo... you got called a troll.

Read comprehend then reply if your last post wasn’t a bunch of whining BS. I had actual discussions points then you put in a straw man and try to change the conversation.

No, he’s not locked up for 2 years. He will be a RFA in 2021 lol. That’s the facts. Wanting to do something and ending up doing it are simply not the same thing.

You wanting something that isn’t factually correct to be true but adding all these caveats to it makes no difference. OG is locked in this season and then a FA next year.

Lovely response. Again - when someone goes against the grain, they are called a troll. Call me whatever you like but this puffing of the chest because 90% of posters here like to support only positive points doesn’t make you right, just more with the cult.

What discussion did you make exactly lol. Let’s revisit:

-We’ve already gone over the OG point of which you’re wrong so that’s covered
-You called me an ignorant troll; which is what actual discussion exactly?
-I have bridge of misery, which again isn’t any discussion, and ironic considering you called me dumb and you got upset at my post so much that it’s filled with conjecture and vitriol based on the fact you’re wrong about OG and this being a mediocre core

So yes, great mature discussion. I’m definitely miserable and angry and it’s definitely not you upset at me because I said something you disagreed with and resorted to childish quips and assuming intention.

Bravo, well played.

We have og for next year then we as a team have him for the very least another year if we want it. The amount is in the air but QO is low enough for our big opportunity in FA who cares I don’t.


That’s if he insists on signing a one year offer sheet or extension only which off the top of your head can you name 2 players that have ever done that at his caliber?



My points were talking about why og, fvv, and siakam is a good group of young proven players.

Pointing out the obvious trolling, straw man argument and complaining afterwards was a simple response to your post which shows your hypocrisy in everything you’ve posted since.

OG will be a FA in 2021. The QO will be extended and he will reject and become a RFA.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/breaking-raptors-cap-situation-ahead-2020-nba-draft-free-agency/

Anunoby is entering the fourth year of his rookie-scale contract and as such is eligible for something called the “designated rookie extension.”

This is a five-year extension that kicks in after a rookie-scale player’s fourth season and allows that player a maximum salary of 25 per cent of the cap, so long as his team offers it up.

With a reported projected cap of $112 million in 2021-22, if the Raptors decide to give Anunoby a max extension, he’ll be looking at a five-year deal worth about $164.3 million (if you include full eight-per cent raises).

That is why the discussion is in place to pay him now or wait and then he might make more. They won't do that obviously for the max FA money kept in place but OG is a FA in 2021. We do not control that, he does. If he falls off a cliff and can never play basketball again, he will take the QO, but clear as day, in this article, and in hundreds more, he will be a FA in 2021.

You're confusing OGs FA. Next year he will not accept the QO, become an RFA and sign a deal with someone else which we match, or he signs with us. So again, he is a FA in 2021.

The point isn't whether Pascal, Fred and OG were not solid players, the point was they are a pretty mediocre core. As much as you like them, without a true star player, they are just a group of guys who make the playoffs and make little noise at best, and that is of course if they don't fall off without Kyle. This is for the umpteenth time, people putting words in my mouth because they are just angry about any critique of this team.

What trolling or straw man argument, you're literally just saying words without any context and blatant conjecture because you have nothing to say.

[Lukeem]

Our core moving forward are former g-league champs

There are a couple young cores that have more potential than ours sure. The grass is not always greener

We have OG(23) Siakam (26) and FVV (26) locked up

OG should be entering prime in a couple years and is a proven playoff performer, top level defender that can step up in big moments without hesitation. Proven shooter, showed flashes of being a playmaker in bubble definitely an area to focus improvement in

Siakam is a proven #2 option nba champ that is close to all defense levels. Obviously struggled as a top option. But has shown constant huge improvement

Fvv. Proven 2 way performer in the finals.


How many other teams can boast 3 players locked up / controlled going into their primes.


Unless they show major jumps obviously we need more, but major jumps from 1 or more of very possible.

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

Luka is amazing and the kind of #1 option we are missing unless og / siakam / fvv make more huge steps or we sign someone next offseason.

Porzingas has a tonne of potential but has proven less than siakam and fvv on the bigger stages. Could end up having a forgettable career

You’re counting Dallas already signing someone else but trying say og doesn’t count as locked up. Obviously you’re being a hypocrite. They might not be able to sign someone.

Every other core you’re taking about is noticeably older than those three. I didn’t include our best player because I was clearly focussing on a core moving forward. You being obviously ignorant and not comprehending.

So be a hypocrite and complain some more it will hurt my feelings

[Steelo Green]

There are a couple young cores that have more potential than ours sure. The grass is not always greener

We have OG(23) Siakam (26) and FVV (26) locked up

OG should be entering prime in a couple years and is a proven playoff performer, top level defender that can step up in big moments without hesitation. Proven shooter, showed flashes of being a playmaker in bubble definitely an area to focus improvement in

Siakam is a proven #2 option nba champ that is close to all defense levels. Obviously struggled as a top option. But has shown constant huge improvement

Fvv. Proven 2 way performer in the finals.


How many other teams can boast 3 players locked up / controlled going into their primes.


Unless they show major jumps obviously we need more, but major jumps from 1 or more of very possible.

OG isn’t locked up, and when he is you think that core is good lol.

Here are some cores: Luka/Porzingis/whomever they get in FA next year, Jimmy/Bam/Herro, Giannis/Holliday/Middleton, Murray/Jokic/MPJ, Kawhi/PG/whomever, Lebron/AD/Whomever

I could go on. Even if it’s two players for some, a superstar is worth more than 3 players who are not all stars except one.

People are really overvaluing these assets. Once Kyle is gone we have one of the leagues worst cores.

Luka is amazing and the kind of #1 option we are missing unless og / siakam / fvv make more huge steps or we sign someone next offseason.

Porzingas has a tonne of potential but has proven less than siakam and fvv on the bigger stages. Could end up having a forgettable career

You’re counting Dallas already signing someone else but trying say og doesn’t count as locked up. Obviously you’re being a hypocrite. They might not be able to sign someone.

Every other core you’re taking about is noticeably older than those three. I didn’t include our best player because I was clearly focussing on a core moving forward. You being obviously ignorant and not comprehending.

So be a hypocrite and complain some more it will hurt my feelings

I guess you have finally come to admit the OG point was wrong.

You're assuming so much with regard to finding a superstar via free agency. We have never in our history gotten a meeting. This team is not good enough to entice a superstar in the first place because again - Kyle is the glue and our true best player and is aging.

Porzingis doesn't need to be anything, any core with Luka beats us simply because superstars win you titles, and love or hate Porzingis, when healthy he is a star. Would arguably be as good or better than Siakam.

Older or not, what does that matter, that is the core we have. I would rather have the core in Atlanta, or Boston, or OKC with SGA and all those picks, or even Sacremento if Bagley is healthy.

This core wins you nothing unless Kawhi falls from the sky and that is never happening again.

Not sure what the ignorant and trolling has to do with anything, I responded pretty directly to all your points.

[Lukeem]

No, he’s not locked up for 2 years. He will be a RFA in 2021 lol. That’s the facts. Wanting to do something and ending up doing it are simply not the same thing.

You wanting something that isn’t factually correct to be true but adding all these caveats to it makes no difference. OG is locked in this season and then a FA next year.

Lovely response. Again - when someone goes against the grain, they are called a troll. Call me whatever you like but this puffing of the chest because 90% of posters here like to support only positive points doesn’t make you right, just more with the cult.

What discussion did you make exactly lol. Let’s revisit:

-We’ve already gone over the OG point of which you’re wrong so that’s covered
-You called me an ignorant troll; which is what actual discussion exactly?
-I have bridge of misery, which again isn’t any discussion, and ironic considering you called me dumb and you got upset at my post so much that it’s filled with conjecture and vitriol based on the fact you’re wrong about OG and this being a mediocre core

So yes, great mature discussion. I’m definitely miserable and angry and it’s definitely not you upset at me because I said something you disagreed with and resorted to childish quips and assuming intention.

Bravo, well played.

We have og for next year then we as a team have him for the very least another year if we want it. The amount is in the air but QO is low enough for our big opportunity in FA who cares I don’t.


That’s if he insists on signing a one year offer sheet or extension only which off the top of your head can you name 2 players that have ever done that at his caliber?



My points were talking about why og, fvv, and siakam is a good group of young proven players.

Pointing out the obvious trolling, straw man argument and complaining afterwards was a simple response to your post which shows your hypocrisy in everything you’ve posted since.

OG will be a FA in 2021. The QO will be extended and he will reject and become a RFA.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/breaking-raptors-cap-situation-ahead-2020-nba-draft-free-agency/

Anunoby is entering the fourth year of his rookie-scale contract and as such is eligible for something called the “designated rookie extension.”

This is a five-year extension that kicks in after a rookie-scale player’s fourth season and allows that player a maximum salary of 25 per cent of the cap, so long as his team offers it up.

With a reported projected cap of $112 million in 2021-22, if the Raptors decide to give Anunoby a max extension, he’ll be looking at a five-year deal worth about $164.3 million (if you include full eight-per cent raises).

That is why the discussion is in place to pay him now or wait and then he might make more. They won't do that obviously for the max FA money kept in place but OG is a FA in 2021. We do not control that, he does. If he falls off a cliff and can never play basketball again, he will take the QO, but clear as day, in this article, and in hundreds more, he will be a FA in 2021.

You're confusing OGs FA. Next year he will not accept the QO, become an RFA and sign a deal with someone else which we match, or he signs with us. So again, he is a FA in 2021.

The point isn't whether Pascal, Fred and OG were not solid players, the point was they are a pretty mediocre core. As much as you like them, without a true star player, they are just a group of guys who make the playoffs and make little noise at best, and that is of course if they don't fall off without Kyle. This is for the umpteenth time, people putting words in my mouth because they are just angry about any critique of this team.

What trolling or straw man argument, you're literally just saying words without any context and blatant conjecture because you have nothing to say.

Doesn’t matter if we extend QO we can still match and maintain him even if he signs anywhere else - hence we have him locked up if we want him