gerrit4 wrote:Steelo Green wrote:gerrit4 wrote:
Looking at the past 10 seasons, here's a list of how each Finals MVP was acquired:
Lebron: FA
Kawhi: Draft (for SA), Trade (Raps)
KD: FA
Iggy (if you count it): trade.
None of the players were acquired through the draft. Since the players have gotten more power to switch teams, it seems like the way to get a finals MVP is through trade or FA.
In the past 30 years, there were 15 different finals MVPs. That's it - fourteen! Out of 1000's of players.
How many were traded in their primes?
Shaq, Chauncey, Kawhi, Iggy. That's over 25% of ALL the finals MVPs!
But here's a second thought - how many were either traded, or on the trading block during their primes?
Shaq, Chauncey, Kawhi, Iggy, Parker, Pierce.
Now we're at 40%.
I'd say it's not that rare.
I said in their primes lol.
Pierce, Chauncy, Parker, Shaq, none were in their primes.
The answer is only Kareem and Moses Malone.
If you want to include Iggy, that's fair, I did include that in my list of criteria though he wasn't a star, but that is fair he was in his prime when he went to GS.
As you can see, most are drafted. Kawhi was drafted by SA, Lebron drafted by Cleveland, and then KD drafted by OKC and then he signed. They sign wherever they want to go or they are drafted.
Also, Chauncey went to Detroit when he was a nobody, not when he was a superstar wanting out.
Which at the time they were traded who were finals MVP and in their prime was traded. Include Shaq if you want, but I don't put 32 year old Shaq there in his prime. Great player still but not, this is a top 3 player.
It literally never happens, and we are banking for a rarity that has never happened to happen, and then of course, hope for a signing which we have never even gotten a meeting lol.
Shaq was still in his late prime - he was second in mvp voting after he was traded. Parker was on the trade block the year we drafted JV - which was 100 percent in his prime before he was a finals mvp. Chauncey was traded before his prime, pierce was on the block (somewhat during his prime).
I thought your point was that it was rare to acquire a finals mvp by trade, which it isn’t.
Parker wasn’t traded and rumours are not anything so yeah moot.
Chauncey was traded as a journeyman that no one cared for.
Pierce was on the block but never traded. Again you’re adding all these new things.
Rumours exist with every player in NBA history.
Interesting thing with all those guys is they were never top 5 players (minus Shaq) or superstars. Just perfect situation perfect time.
I even said include Shaq but that true superstar finals MVP traded during their prime is again 4 players (Shaq, Moses, Kawhi and Kareem).
Add Parker, Chauncey or Pierce to our team in their prime, are we winning a title? Nope. Pierce would make us maybe a finals team but not title team and again, he was never traded in his prime either so point is irrelevant lol.
Players of Kawhis caliber are rarely if ever available and in Kawhis case with the extenuating circumstances of his injury, year off, and all that made his value so low that we got him in a rare if ever trade done as such.