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With the 4th Pick, the Raptors select Scottie Barnes! Part 2

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Re: With the 4th Pick, the Raptors select Scottie Barnes! Part 2 

Post#241 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:56 pm

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bboyskinnylegs wrote:He's just a really likeable dude with a great personality. He's also friends with seemingly every high ranked prospect. Obviously it's a big unknown and it wouldn't even matter for a few years, but if he really pans out to be a star, I feel like he would be a huge asset when it comes to recruiting other great players to join our team. The one thing that we've never been able to do in our entire team's history.

He could end up being a very valuable recruiter.


Demar was friends with literally everyone in the league too. It didn't help attract any FAs, sadly. It certainly doesn't hurt to have a guy like that on the roster though.

DeMar was the exact parallel I had in mind. The issue with him is he simply wasn't good enough to draw other stars here. IF Scottie is, I think he definitely can. Again, a minor point in the grand scheme of things, and it's irrelevant if Barnes simply doesn't pan out to be a star that others want to play with, but when I think about how LeBron and Bosh joined the Heat, it's little things like this that can give you the edge in making those huge moves possible. Scottie has been developing relationships with guys involved with USAB since 2017.
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Post#242 » by Blood Orange » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:59 pm

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Ivan Drago wrote:I originally didn't like the pick with Scottie Barnes but I will say this about Scottie, and that he plays for the team's success rather than individual accolades, which is something I really admire in the best basketball players. He's more interested in helping contribute towards how his team can win and do things that are conducive to the team winning rather than focusing on stat padding and individual success whenever he steps onto the court. I think this is one of the more admirable qualities that I've noted about his basketball playing style and something thats going to be pleasantly enjoyable for the coming years, while he's wears the black and red jersey.


Mans is going to be dropping a few 10 points/10 boards/10 dimes triple dubs this season.


I can definitely see that happening, almost like Westbrook numbers but actually helpful for the team winning.
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Post#243 » by mtcan » Sun Aug 1, 2021 12:11 am

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garbagnani wrote:He could end up being a very valuable recruiter.


Demar was friends with literally everyone in the league too. It didn't help attract any FAs, sadly. It certainly doesn't hurt to have a guy like that on the roster though.

DeMar was the exact parallel I had in mind. The issue with him is he simply wasn't good enough to draw other stars here. IF Scottie is, I think he definitely can. Again, a minor point in the grand scheme of things, and it's irrelevant if Barnes simply doesn't pan out to be a star that others want to play with, but when I think about how LeBron and Bosh joined the Heat, it's little things like this that can give you the edge in making those huge moves possible. Scottie has been developing relationships with guys involved with USAB since 2017.

Scottie DOES have a connection to Cade Cunningham, Moses Moody and Day'ron Sharpe after playing with them in high school...maybe in 7-8 years...he puts in a few calls to old friends?
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Post#244 » by StopitLeo » Sun Aug 1, 2021 12:26 am

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Raps in 4 wrote:
The last great dynasty in the NBA was built around a 6'3" PG. Contenders are built around elite players. It's that simple.


The Warriors were built around the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA; Curry is hardly a traditional PG.

Contenders are almost always built around elite perimeter players. In cases where the best player is a PF/C the team usually has an elite perimeter player as well.

What was the last team built around a traditional PG that won a title? Exactly. Contenders are not built around PGs.


Isaiah Thomas Pistons were good with him and Dumars.


They certainly were. That was in 1988 and 1989 though…
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Post#245 » by 720 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 12:40 am

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StopitLeo wrote:
The Warriors were built around the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA; Curry is hardly a traditional PG.

Contenders are almost always built around elite perimeter players. In cases where the best player is a PF/C the team usually has an elite perimeter player as well.

What was the last team built around a traditional PG that won a title? Exactly. Contenders are not built around PGs.


Isaiah Thomas Pistons were good with him and Dumars.


They certainly were. That was in 1988 and 1989 though…

I agree. Pretty sure Isiah and Curry are the only small guards to have a team built around them and win a championship. Building a team around a small guard isn't viable. If the goal is to win championships.
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Post#250 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:09 am

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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#251 » by Duffman100 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:12 am

So wait, combine measured his wingspan at 7'2.75 and Raptors at 7.4?
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Post#252 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:20 am

Duffman100 wrote:So wait, combine measured his wingspan at 7'2.75 and Raptors at 7.4?


It makes no sense, but I'll take 7'4" :lol: and I'll also take people calling him 6'9" because he also measured 6'7" without shoes at the combine
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Post#253 » by Jcity08 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:21 am

Duffman100 wrote:So wait, combine measured his wingspan at 7'2.75 and Raptors at 7.4?


Also his hand width is the size of a large pizza.. allegedly. :lol:
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Post#256 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:38 am

Duffman100 wrote:So wait, combine measured his wingspan at 7'2.75 and Raptors at 7.4?


52 seconds into this video
When Scottie came in to workout for us his wingspan was measured at somewhere between 7'3.5"-7'4". Hand width 27cm (10.63").
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Post#257 » by Duffman100 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:40 am

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Duffman100 wrote:So wait, combine measured his wingspan at 7'2.75 and Raptors at 7.4?


52 seconds into this video
When Scottie came in to workout for us his wingspan was measured at somewhere between 7'3.5"-7'4". Hand width 27cm (10.63").


Yeah that's what I was referencing. Difference between the combine results and this one.

But if he has a 7'4" wingspan :o :o
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Post#258 » by Live Free » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:40 am

I knew they'd come around.. they always do 8-)
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Post#259 » by Blood Orange » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:42 am

Scottie Barnes is so winning right now, and he hasn't even played his first game yet
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Post#260 » by Jcity08 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:42 am

I hope we let Scottie get some time running the point and let him work through his mistakes while addressing any bad habits that he might develop. This could be a golden opprotunity for him and this team.
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